Are We Still One Of The League's Top Offense's?

[THE ICEMAN]

I don't know if we ever were a top 5 offense as they were very inconsistent even going back to 2012. But those two playoff games really showed the type of quick strike offense we could've been never got to see that last year with all the injuries.

So how do we fill TG's production? I think the by Committee won't work because he wasn't just productive he was a play maker and made a ton of tough contested catches that helped decide games. I think we finally could have a decent OL than can pass protect or run block and now we lose maybe Ryan's favorite target in Gonzalez.

Maybe we gamble on a guy like Dustin Keller or Jermichael Finley. We don't have to many holes now but there are still a few big ones and that chain moving big catch playmaker is one of them.

[Willy Mo]

Not with this "offensive line" (loose term, seeing as they just stand there. nothing offensive about them except their ineptitude). Until we can get back to basing our offense around the power-running game, Matt is just gonna stand in the pocket all day and hope to get the ball out in time. So my opinion is either get a decent offensive line and base our offensive off the running game, or find a way to build a great offensive line so Matt can carry us.

[Mike Kenn]

I don't know if we ever were a top 5 offense as they were very inconsistent even going back to 2012. But those two playoff games really showed the type of quick strike offense we could've been never got to see that last year with all the injuries.

So how do we fill TG's production? I think the by Committee won't work because he wasn't just productive he was a play maker and made a ton of tough contested catches that helped decide games. I think we finally could have a decent OL than can pass protect or run block and now we lose maybe Ryan's favorite target in Gonzalez.

Maybe we gamble on a guy like Dustin Keller or Jermichael Finley. We don't have to many holes now but there are still a few big ones and that chain moving big catch playmaker is one of them.

I dont know what the cap situation looks like, but I would like to see us get more balanced on offense. I dont care if we put up gaudy statistics, I just want a balanced attack that can help us win games. We have enough skill guys that we will be fine without Tony. I wouldnt mind seeing us draft Matthews or Robinson at RT and add a good blocking TE, perhaps Brandon Pettigrew? And a big dominating Fullback would be nice too. We need to be able to run the ball.

[kiwifalcon]

YES.

[Desert_Falcon]

If we stay healthy and stay with what we got now we are still a top 10. We all the abuse Ryan took last season we still ended ranked 7th in passing. I feel we have a few other moves especially on the O side. Our run game should be more balanced and again our health.

Replacing TG could be done with Pitta or Daniels. They both have the hands and I think better blocking then TG. So that shouldn't too to hard. Toilolo should be used more In his 2nd year and we could run some 2 TE sets.

[THE ICEMAN]

I dont know what the cap situation looks like, but I would like to see us get more balanced on offense. I dont care if we put up gaudy statistics, I just want a balanced attack that can help us win games. We have enough skill guys that we will be fine without Tony. I wouldnt mind seeing us draft Matthews or Robinson at RT and add a good blocking TE, perhaps Brandon Pettigrew? And a big dominating Fullback would be nice too. We need to be able to run the ball.

Yea I agree with running the ball more but at the same time if your really an explosive offense going on the road winning big games is a little easier.

I think the falcons have a good problem coming up with the draft in who do they take the pass rusher the tackle or the skilled guy in watkins.

[Mike Kenn]

If we stay healthy and stay with what we got now we are still a top 10. We all the abuse Ryan took last season we still ended ranked 7th in passing. I feel we have a few other moves especially on the O side. Our run game should be more balanced and again our health.

Replacing TG could be done with Pitta or Daniels. They both have the hands and I think better blocking then TG. So that shouldn't too to hard. Toilolo should be used more In his 2nd year and we could run some 2 TE sets.

Pettigrew! And while we were ranked 7th in passing, we were ranked dead last in rushing. That needs to be fixed before we do anything else.

[LookAboutFalcon]

With Greg Robinson as our 1st pick and a healty Julio Jones.

[mastershake]

I may be in the minority here, but I think we will be fine with Coffman and Toilolo. They are not TG, but with a better OL, a running game and some pass protection, teams wont be able to pin their ears back and get to Ryan before he bombs to Julio. That would leave these guys with little attention.

[Mike Kenn]

Yea I agree with running the ball more but at the same time if your really an explosive offense going on the road winning big games is a little easier.

I think the falcons have a good problem coming up with the draft in who do they take the pass rusher the tackle or the skilled guy in watkins.

Absolutely not Watkins. I originally wanted a pass rusher like Mack or Barr, but the more I watch of the OLB's the less impressed I am. I think Jake Matthews is the best OT in the draft. Very polished. Has experience at both LT and RT. I like him at 6, a reasonable trade up for Clowney if we must have a pass rusher, or a trade down to take Lewan, gain a 2nd and grab a FS and pass rusher.

[Mike Kenn]

I may be in the minority here, but I think we will be fine with Coffman and Toilolo. They are not TG, but with a better OL, a running game and some pass protection, teams wont be able to pin their ears back and get to Ryan before he bombs to Julio. That would leave these guys with little attention.

Ive been thinking that we need better blocking from the TE position. I think Tony limited us there. I want Pettigrew at TE and Matthews at RT. Ideally.

[mastershake]

I think Mathews is the safest pick. Every one from that family just becomes all pros and blocking for a pocket passer instead of a scrambler will help him immensely.

[THE ICEMAN]

If we stay healthy and stay with what we got now we are still a top 10. We all the abuse Ryan took last season we still ended ranked 7th in passing. I feel we have a few other moves especially on the O side. Our run game should be more balanced and again our health.

Replacing TG could be done with Pitta or Daniels. They both have the hands and I think better blocking then TG. So that shouldn't too to hard. Toilolo should be used more In his 2nd year and we could run some 2 TE sets.

I can't really see them bringing in more OLmen. Because we already have Homles,Baker,Blalock,Konz,Hawley,Johnson,Asamoah and all have started let alone the ones they draft and I'm not talking about Just the number 6 pick Watford was what a 3rd rounder so they coukd add a guy who could maybe start(highly unlikely though). I could see them drafting a guy if they believe he can start day one but the last thing they'd want to see is take a guy at 6 and watch Homles or johnson beat him out Hawley should have got the nodd at center last year instead they choose Konz and paid dearly I don't think they do that again in picking a guy who was a higher pick and is suppost to replace McClure he just wasn't ready.

I agree with the full back position as its very valuable to a team that needs to run the ball. And I think brandon pedgrew signing would be great he's a big physical TE that can also run block and is pretty good in the passing game.

[THE ICEMAN]

Absolutely not Watkins. I originally wanted a pass rusher like Mack or Barr, but the more I watch of the OLB's the less impressed I am. I think Jake Matthews is the best OT in the draft. Very polished. Has experience at both LT and RT. I like him at 6, a reasonable trade up for Clowney if we must have a pass rusher, or a trade down to take Lewan, gain a 2nd and grab a FS and pass rusher.

I'm not saying Watkins should be the first choice but if somehow Mack/Clowney/Mathews and Robinson are gone before we pick and Watkins is still there I'd take him over moving someone up the board like Mosely,Barr or Lewan.

Draft is very deep and a tackle in round two makes much more sense because Homles likely will be the starting RT the only thing that would make the falcons think about replacing him is if he's not putting in the work in the off season.

Either way I think we should stay at 6 and take whoever falls I would think at least one QB goes inside the top 5.

Robinson,Clowney or Mack would be steels at 6

[THE ICEMAN]

I think Mathews is the safest pick. Every one from that family just becomes all pros and blocking for a pocket passer instead of a scrambler will help him immensely.

Yup but I believe Robinson's ceiling is quite a bit higher.

I think Watkins and Mathews are two of the surest picks as day one impact guys with mack right there with them(he's a little undersized and could struggle in the run game) but nearly a sure pick.

[Mike Kenn]

I'm not saying Watkins should be the first choice but if somehow Mack/Clowney/Mathews and Robinson are gone before we pick and Watkins is still there I'd take him over moving someone up the board like Mosely,Barr or Lewan.

Draft is very deep and a tackle in round two makes much more sense because Homles likely will be the starting RT the only thing that would make the falcons think about replacing him is if he's not putting in the work in the off season.

Either way I think we should stay at 6 and take whoever falls I would think at least one QB goes inside the top 5.

Robinson,Clowney or Mack would be steels at 6

Personally I like Matthews better than Robinson. And I dont care for any of the OLB's that much.

I can think of 16 reasons why Holmes should lose his job. And Watkins would be a waste if we took him. There are only a certain number of passes we can throw a game. Id rather take an OT who can help us get the ball to our current WR's. 9 sacks vs. Carolina cant happen again. If the opportunity presents itself, trading down would be nice too. Taking Lewan at 10 and picking up multiple drafts picks, or maybe a second rounder, would be nice too. Lewan can play and that would give us a chance to draft a FS and OLB in the 2nd

[Mike Kenn]

Yup but I believe Robinson's ceiling is quite a bit higher.

I think Watkins and Mathews are two of the surest picks as day one impact guys with mack right there with them(he's a little undersized and could struggle in the run game) but nearly a sure pick.

Robinson is too sloppy. Matthews is a technician

[THE ICEMAN]

Ive been thinking that we need better blocking from the TE position. I think Tony limited us there. I want Pettigrew at TE and Matthews at RT. Ideally.

Thats fine but what do you do with Homles?

I don't think there going to give up on him after one season not to mention they moved him from RT to LT last season to end stead of leaving him at RT. He played ok at times and struggled a lot most young OL struggle though.

I just wouldn't be so sure a rookie tackle sures anything up look at last year all of the OTs struggle bad maybe one or two of them were even worse than Homles.

Its really a risky pick if you expect day one impact because the position is so hard to transition To from college to the pros if you watch college ball most top OTs face maybe 1-2 maybe 3 top tier NFL caliber rushers and even then there isn't a guy like JJ Wyatt in college either.

[Mike Kenn]

Thats fine but what do you do with Homles?

I don't think there going to give up on him after one season not to mention they moved him from RT to LT last season to end stead of leaving him at RT. He played ok at times and struggled a lot most young OL struggle though.

I just wouldn't be so sure a rookie tackle sures anything up look at last year all of the OTs struggle bad maybe one or two of them were even worse than Homles.

Its really a risky pick if you expect day one impact because the position is so hard to transition To from college to the pros if you watch college ball most top OTs face maybe 1-2 maybe 3 top tier NFL caliber rushers and even then there isn't a guy like JJ Wyatt in college either.

Did you watch Holmes this season? I dont really care where he chooses to watch the game from, as long as it isnt on the field. Matthews would be an instant improvement

[THE ICEMAN]

Robinson is too sloppy. Matthews is a technician

Sloppy in what? He the best run blocker to come out in 20 years nobody dominated on the college level in the run game like him. And in pass protection he was great they just hardly ever threw the ball.

Mcshay said he hasn't seen a talent like him at the OL position ever and he been scouting for 30 years. Some compare him to maybe the best of all time in orlando pace.

I not going to bash Mathews because he a good player and you really couldn't go wrong with either of them. And even if we reached for lewan he's a pretty decent talent his self as well.

In think its very similar to the Clowney vs Mack discussion Robinson like Clowney is a very rare prospect that doesn't come along very often but on the other hand Mack like Mathews are very polished player and ready to step in day one and have a big impact.

[Mike Kenn]

Sloppy in what? He the best run blocker to come out in 20 years nobody dominated on the college level in the run game like him. And in pass protection he was great they just hardly ever threw the ball.

Mcshay said he hasn't seen a talent like him at the OL position ever and he been scouting for 30 years. Some compare him to maybe the best of all time in orlando pace.

I not going to bash Mathews because he a good player and you really couldn't go wrong with either of them. And even if we reached for lewan he's a pretty decent talent his self as well.

In think its very similar to the Clowney vs Mack discussion Robinson like Clowney is a very rare prospect that doesn't come along very often but on the other hand Mack like Mathews are very polished player and ready to step in day one and have a big impact.

Nothing like Clowney and Mack. And Robinson isnt bad, just sloppy compared to Matthews

[THE ICEMAN]

Did you watch Holmes this season? I dont really care where he chooses to watch the game from, as long as it isnt on the field. Matthews would be an instant improvement

Did you watch Eric fisher or Lane Johnson?

Both were horrible maybe even worse than Homles was. And they were top picks just because his name is Mathews doesn't mean he's an upgrade. Homles was a year early but they had no choice to play him with injuries too Baker and Johnson and Johnson injury was a freak thing.

I not saying they by pass the OT position all together I just could easily see them taking a pass rusher or even Watkins over a tackle as there will still be a solid talent in round two on the OT position.

They had no depth with all the injuries and were forced to rush Homles but it likely was a good thing as he did struggle at times but it wasn't all bad he just needs to develop a little.

If thats the case were in big trouble if your scared to play the guys you drafted in Konz,Mass,Homles and so on. Guys improve Dent was horrible but he improved found a way to have an impact as was before his injury then that Worrilow guy came along and took his job.

Give the kid a chance dam can't expect every draft pick to step in day one and be am impact player mass sucked really really bad early on and came on late in the season Trufant struggle early and turned it around so it wouldn't be a shocker to see Homles loxck down that RT spot this season with improved play.

Besides I don't think Mathews or Robinson would be to replace Homles more so to replace Baker after this season and free up the cap space going forward.

[Mike Kenn]

Did you watch Eric fisher or Lane Johnson?

Both were horrible maybe even worse than Homles was. And they were top picks just because his name is Mathews doesn't mean he's an upgrade. Homles was a year early but they had no choice to play him with injuries too Baker and Johnson and Johnson injury was a freak thing.

I not saying they by pass the OT position all together I just could easily see them taking a pass rusher or even Watkins over a tackle as there will still be a solid talent in round two on the OT position.

They had no depth with all the injuries and were forced to rush Homles but it likely was a good thing as he did struggle at times but it wasn't all bad he just needs to develop a little.

If thats the case were in big trouble if your scared to play the guys you drafted in Konz,Mass,Homles and so on. Guys improve Dent was horrible but he improved found a way to have an impact as was before his injury then that Worrilow guy came along and took his job.

Give the kid a chance dam can't expect every draft pick to step in day one and be am impact player mass sucked really really bad early on and came on late in the season Trufant struggle early and turned it around so it wouldn't be a shocker to see Homles loxck down that RT spot this season with improved play.

Besides I don't think Mathews or Robinson would be to replace Homles more so to replace Baker after this season and free up the cap space going forward.

Well I guess its possible. We did sign Carimi too, so maybe we are leaning pass rush. Who knows? haha

[THE ICEMAN]

Nothing like Clowney and Mack. And Robinson isnt bad, just sloppy compared to Matthews

When you say Sloppy what do you mean?

I didn't really see him as sloppy more so dominate if he got his hands on you it was all over. There's no doubt from a running game stand point he would dominate some of the best in the game right now in pass protection he may be sloppy but is a far better athlete than Mathews.

I kind of see Robinson's ceiling as the best in the game like Clowney and I see Mathews ceiling more so as a all pro player but more so a top ten Guy as mack will be.

Like is said I be ok with either guy because baker just can't stay healthy but if I got to choose one it be robinson I just think from a physical stand point he'll dominate day one just as a run blocker.

[THE ICEMAN]

Well I guess its possible. We did sign Carimi too, so maybe we are leaning pass rush. Who knows? haha

Dam forgot about him.

They added a lot of depth thats why I think they very well could pass on a tackle in the 1st.

Who knows man if we stay at 6 there should be a franchise type talent there.

Heck they could even move back select Lewan and pick up another 2nd round pick who knows.

I think they added much needed depth on both sides now I think the pick now really depends on who they think will develop will it be Mass on defense(OLB) or Homles at RT.

Then team was so banged up last year I think people forget just how good we were and we lost guys before they coukd even try to ease guys into am starting role.