DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ok, folks....here's where we're at with the following caveats:1) We have to estimate values for Johnson and Hawley. Will update when I can.2) We don't know exact structure of first year compensation.3) This is intended as a ROUGH mental checklist of where we standCap Space coming into March 11, 2014~$18mSigningsAsamoah $4.5m/yrBabs $3m/yrJohnson $1m/yr (est)Hawley $1.5m/yr (est)Total post-signings cap room~$8mReleased (official only)Tommy DeCoud - +$3mPending cap moneyGonzo - $7mEstimated Cost of rookie pool (per Over the Cap)$3.5m (call it $4m)Future Possible ExtensionsJulioRoddySpoonFuture Possible Cuts (and associated savings)Osi - $3.5Steven Jackson - $3mKroy Biermann - $3mMatt Bryant - $2.75mTotal Spendable Dollars$14m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_ELLIS24 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 good info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ok, folks....here's where we're at with the following caveats:1) We have to estimate values for Johnson and Hawley. Will update when I can.2) We don't know exact structure of first year compensation.3) This is intended as a ROUGH mental checklist of where we standCap Space coming into March 11, 2014~$18mSigningsAsamoah $4.5m/yrBabs $3m/yrJohnson $1m/yr (est)Hawley $1.5m/yr (est)Total post-signings cap room~$8mReleased (official only)Tommy DeCoud - +$3mPending cap moneyGonzo - $7mEstimated Cost of rookie pool (per Over the Cap)$3.5m (call it $4m)Future Possible ExtensionsJulioRoddySpoonFuture Possible Cuts (and associated savings)Osi - $3.5Steven Jackson - $3mKroy Biermann - $3mMatt Bryant - $2.75mTotal Spendable Dollars$14mGood info but we're not cutting Bryant, we're not cutting Jackson especially after Snelling left, and we're not cutting Bierman unless we make a run at Demarcus Ware. But if we sign the DE from KC Osi is outta here.When the heck does the Gonzo money hit the books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Good info but we're not cutting Bryant, we're not cutting Jackson especially after Snelling left, and we're not cutting Bierman unless we make a run at Demarcus Ware. But if we sign the DE from KC Osi is outta here.When the heck does the Gonzo money hit the books?I understand that we may or may not do stuff like that. These are just potential sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Good info but we're not cutting Bryant, we're not cutting Jackson especially after Snelling left, and we're not cutting Bierman unless we make a run at Demarcus Ware. But if we sign the DE from KC Osi is outta here.When the heck does the Gonzo money hit the books?Jackson is not Osi's threat. If he doesn't accept a pay cut then he'll be cut regardless. Also, if they draft someone like Mack the Biermann is as good as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five_Fifs Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Looks about right.....Only thing I would add is that the first year hits of typically are cheaper than the average of the contract....and there may be some small subsidy to consider when you factor in the top 51 contract that is being replaced by these new deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman42 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 per Vaughn McClure, Tony G. is out of the country right now so the 7 mill will have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Looks about right.....Only thing I would add is that the first year hits of typically are cheaper than the average of the contract....and there may be some small subsidy to consider when you factor in the top 51 contract that is being replaced by these new dealsAbsolutely. Normally, I'd guess that somewhere like Over the Cap or Spotrac would have the structures available relatively quickly but something tells me they're very very busy.Given that we're still looking at Tyson Jackson and we've opened a hole at Safety, I'm guessing we've push significant money backward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Corey Peters was re-signed he was a FA just signed a little earlier, How does his re-signing impact the numbers???do you expect them to cut Bierman and keep Massaquio, Matthews, Maponga, Goodmancut Matt Bryant??aren't you just fishing for $$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Jackson is not Osi's threat. If he doesn't accept a pay cut then he'll be cut regardless. Also, if they draft someone like Mack the Biermann is as good as gone.Yeah, but the more I think about it the more I think we're absolutely going OT at #6 unless Clowney drops. There's no way we're going in with Holmes, Baker, and Johnson at tackle. We just spent $120M on Ryan.We might make a run at Ware though now that he's available.And you're right Osi is probably good as gone with all the 3-4 rumors flying around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Corey Peters was re-signed he was a FA just signed a little earlier, How does his re-signing impact the numbers???The original $18m took into account Peters. Though he was basically "free" given Snelling's retirement. Was almost a complete wash, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Yeah, but the more I think about it the more I think we're absolutely going OT at #6 unless Clowney drops. There's no way we're going in with Holmes, Baker, and Johnson at tackle. We just spent $120M on Ryan.We might make a run at Ware though now that he's available.And you're right Osi is probably good as gone with all the 3-4 rumors flying around.OT is very deep this year. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see us go OT in 2 or 3 and plan on starting that guy at RT with Baker at left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Welp, add Jackson and Soliai to the list. Still a hole at FS. Clearly money is getting pushed around. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I think these moves clearly put Osi/Kroy on the hot seat. I was skeptical of the 3-4 talk but all of these moves fit that narrative. Think we could see those two guys let go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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