g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 McShay's Mock 3.0 (3/6/14)Houston - Blake Bortles, QB-UCFRams - Jadeveon Clowney, DE-S. CarolinaJacksonville - Teddy Bridgewater, QB-LouisvilleCleveland - Johnny Manziel, QB-Texas A&MOakland - Sammy Watkins, WR-ClemsonAtlanta - Greg Robinson, OT-AuburnAnalysis: Coming out of the combine, I wrote that the Falcons could be one of the big winners in this year's draft, and in this scenario they hit a home run. Short of Clowney falling to them at No. 6, which isn't going to happen, this is the scenario that would make the Falcons decision-makers happiest. Robinson is one of the four elite prospects in this year's class (along with Clowney, Watkins and Buffalo's Khalil Mack), and he's the most dominating offensive lineman at the point of attack that I've ever evaluated. He also has tremendous athleticism for his size, giving him the ability to hold his own in pass protection right away and the potential to be an excellent pass blocker over time. Tampa - Khalil Mack, OLB-Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I'll take this scenario anytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 this is probably "best-case" dream scenario for Falcons - 3 QBs and Watkins going before we pick. Can you imagine getting to choose between Khalil Mack, Greg Robinson and Jake Matthews? that is dream scenario. As a matter of fact, if you started getting 2-3 bids wanting to move up, you might could even trade back 2-3 spots and still get one of these guys. I believe I would take Greg Robinson in that situation - but Mack would be tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I would love to draft Robinson, sucks Tampa got Mack though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 this is probably "best-case" dream scenario for Falcons - 3 QBs and Watkins going before we pick.Yeah. Or maybe Mack, Clowney and either Matthews or Robinson going.Honestly I'd be fine we get Lewan as well. He's a top 10 guy and I went back and rewatched his senior games. That Michigan QB was terrible and held on to the ball forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I guess it could happen this way and "you can never have too many pass rushers" but I don't see the rams taking Clowney. He may go @ # 2 but I don't think it's to the rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The reports on Robinson, though, are very, very encouraging. Most of them say things like Mcshay said in this one. "Most dominating tackle (at the point of attack) that I've ever evaluated". Mayock said something very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookAboutFalcon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Greg Robinson would be a great center piece for our line. Would he start out at RT? Some report had us moving Baker to RT if we drafted a OT with our 1st. I think it would be wise to start Robinson at RT for a while just to ease him into the progame. Let him do what he does best and maul people over on the right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I guess it could happen this way and "you can never have too many pass rushers" but I don't see the rams taking Clowney. He may go @ # 2 but I don't think it's to the rams.I think they go a Matthews or Robinson. Or believe it or not Bortles or Bridgewater. I know it sounds crazy but there are reasons:1) Bradford is not fisher and snead's guy2) he's been hurt and /or ineffective despite getting weapons3) their OL is onto bad at all4) dead money for Bradford is less next year and they could let a rookie like Bortles sit for a year5) they're an improving ball club and unlikely to get any top 5 picks again for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 The reports on Robinson, though, are very, very encouraging. Most of them say things like Mcshay said in this one. "Most dominating tackle (at the point of attack) that I've ever evaluated". Mayock said something very similar.yeah, Greg Robinson has been compared to Cowboys HOF - Larry Allen. I really, really like him. I'm not worried about the pass protection - not at all - he will be fine there - he has great feet, is fast and has strong hands - just needs to work on technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 this is probably "best-case" dream scenario for Falcons - 3 QBs and Watkins going before we pick. Can you imagine getting to choose between Khalil Mack, Greg Robinson and Jake Matthews? that is dream scenario. As a matter of fact, if you started getting 2-3 bids wanting to move up, you might could even trade back 2-3 spots and still get one of these guys. I believe I would take Greg Robinson in that situation - but Mack would be tempting.Thats the dream for us.... We would get one of our top 3 options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I REALLY hope 3 QBs go in the top 5.Otherwise I'm not sure about teams trading up for them. The only QB needy team that's likely to spend a 1st rounder is the Vikings and they're only 2 picks behind us.Hopefully they'd want to jump in front of Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddieman Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 McShay's Mock 3.0 (3/6/14)Houston - Blake Bortles, QB-UCFRams - Jadeveon Clowney, DE-S. CarolinaJacksonville - Teddy Bridgewater, QB-LouisvilleCleveland - Johnny Manziel, QB-Texas A&MOakland - Sammy Watkins, WR-ClemsonAtlanta - Greg Robinson, OT-AuburnAnalysis: Coming out of the combine, I wrote that the Falcons could be one of the big winners in this year's draft, and in this scenario they hit a home run. Short of Clowney falling to them at No. 6, which isn't going to happen, this is the scenario that would make the Falcons decision-makers happiest. Robinson is one of the four elite prospects in this year's class (along with Clowney, Watkins and Buffalo's Khalil Mack), and he's the most dominating offensive lineman at the point of attack that I've ever evaluated. He also has tremendous athleticism for his size, giving him the ability to hold his own in pass protection right away and the potential to be an excellent pass blocker over time. Tampa - Khalil Mack, OLB-Buffalo good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The Texans are interested in Matt Cassel. Might change everything if they sign him. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000331165/article/bill-obrien-houston-texans-interested-in-matt-cassel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Greg Robinson would be a great center piece for our line. Would he start out at RT? Some report had us moving Baker to RT if we drafted a OT with our 1st. I think it would be wise to start Robinson at RT for a while just to ease him into the progame. Let him do what he does best and maul people over on the right side.I agree put him in at RT for a year, move him to LT in 15 and if Holmes or someone hasn't stepped up draft a RT next yearAlthough I'd take Robinsin or Matthews or even Lewan with #6 and grab a mid round guy with talent (or go back to back and get Moses or kouandjio ) and develop him for 15 as our RT.If we wanted, while it's a bit risky you could get Robinson or Matthews and a guy like Moses or kuanj and put them at RG initially and then at RT in 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 This draft is extremely deep @ tackle. I wouldn't be mad if we double dipped @ tackle and DT in this draft. Need to sure up RG during FA though. Imagine if we brought in a mauler like Schwartz or Colon and paired them on the right right Robinson? 240 pound Sjax running behind that? Power run sets up play action. We can't run play action because we can't run. This solves all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I think they go a Matthews or Robinson. Or believe it or not Bortles or Bridgewater. I know it sounds crazy but there are reasons:1) Bradford is not fisher and snead's guy2) he's been hurt and /or ineffective despite getting weapons3) their OL is onto bad at all4) dead money for Bradford is less next year and they could let a rookie like Bortles sit for a year5) they're an improving ball club and unlikely to get any top 5 picks again for a whileDid Fisher ever take a QB with a 1st rounder while he was the coach for the Titans? Was McNair a 1st rounder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 yeah, Greg Robinson has been compared to Cowboys HOF - Larry Allen. I really, really like him. I'm not worried about the pass protection - not at all - he will be fine there - he has great feet, is fast and has strong hands - just needs to work on technique.Walter jones is who he reminds me of, but Allen is good too:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Greg Robinson would be a great center piece for our line. Would he start out at RT? Some report had us moving Baker to RT if we drafted a OT with our 1st. I think it would be wise to start Robinson at RT for a while just to ease him into the progame. Let him do what he does best and maul people over on the right side.i really don't think it matters. It would make sense to me for Greg Robinson to play right tackle his rookie year - we are stuck with Baker and Baker is a 6 year vet - Robinson is learning the traditional NFL pass protection schemes - why not let him do so on the right side where there is less pressure while he adapts to the NFL way of doing things. We have to pay Sam Baker either way. Also, the right side is where you traditionally run the ball a little more and Robinson is day#1 ready to dominate in that area.Then in 2015, if Baker looks done, you cut him and move Greg Robinson over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thats the dream for us.... We would get one of our top 3 optionsagreed. however if we took Matthews - in that scenario - the board would melt down. lots of these "!!!!!!!!!" and these "S#it!!!! and F@CK!!!!!, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Walter jones is who he reminds me of, but Allen is good too:)yeah, those have been the two comparisions. Larry Allen came out of "Sonoma State" - wow! good scouting by Dallas back in the Jimmy Johnson days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiccolas Cage Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 this is probably "best-case" dream scenario for Falcons - 3 QBs and Watkins going before we pick. Can you imagine getting to choose between Khalil Mack, Greg Robinson and Jake Matthews? that is dream scenario. As a matter of fact, if you started getting 2-3 bids wanting to move up, you might could even trade back 2-3 spots and still get one of these guys. I believe I would take Greg Robinson in that situation - but Mack would be tempting.I hardly call Matthews a dream scenario. I think he will be there regardless.Dream scenario would be being able to choose between: Clowney, Mack, Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Did Fisher ever take a QB with a 1st rounder while he was the coach for the Titans? Was McNair a 1st rounder?McNair was a first rounder. I'd have to check if fisher was there when they drafted himI checked Fisher was there as coach when they drafted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrockthabarber Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I don't get these mocks cause if Clowney doesn't go #1 he's not going #2 to the Rams who have arguably the best 2 DE in football and need OL help. If the Texans go QB I think the Rams go OL.Here's how I see it shaking out.Texans - BortlesRams - Matthews/Robinson/TradeJaguars - ClowneyBrowns - ManzielRaiders - BridgewaterFalcons - Mack or Matthews/Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 yeah, those have been the two comparisions. Larry Allen came out of "Sonoma State" - wow! good scouting by Dallas back in the Jimmy Johnson days.Yup. I read how they found him. Some regional scout, go figure. Way back before the net too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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