JT Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm aware that the falcons are in a good cap situation but I haven't had the time to do full research on what they can really do.From my understanding from what I hear as long as the falcons don't pursue Byrd they have enough to sign 3 key free agents....and if that's the case I think all 3 guys should be in the trenches of our lines.Someone with knowledge...please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If we don't pursue Byrd?? WUT?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest F_A_1_C_O_N Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 sure.............. if we back load them to long term contracts and do not have a lot in guarnteed money. but a lot of these big shots want the money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 It's possible for them to sign 3-5 good, but not elite FAs. 5-6M/yr guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Absolutely...with or without Byrd.Ignoring creative cap structuring we could do Byrd ($9m) + Starks/Solai ($4m) + Asamoah ($3.5m). This would cost us $16.5 of $29m. It will only take us $4 to sign rookies. So you'd still have $9m to play with.That's assuming Decoud is released and TG retires.If we want to get really creative and restructure/extend Roddy/Spoon we can free up a bit more cap space to play with.Theres no reason we can't get 3 very good players. And I think thats being conservative. Maybe we don't do it, but we certainly have the capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Absolutely...with or without Byrd.Ignoring creative cap structuring we could do Byrd ($9m) + Starks/Solai ($4m) + Asamoah ($3.5m). This would cost us $16.5 of $29m. It will only take us $4 to sign rookies. So you'd still have $9m to play with.That's assuming Decoud is released and TG retires.If we want to get really creative and restructure/extend Roddy/Spoon we can free up a bit more cap space to play with.Theres no reason we can't get 3 very good players. And I think thats being conservative. Maybe we don't do it, but we certainly have the capacity.Thanks for clearing that up....hopefully the right moves are made so we can be SURE Super Bowl contention next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryka Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Absolutely...with or without Byrd.Ignoring creative cap structuring we could do Byrd ($9m) + Starks/Solai ($4m) + Asamoah ($3.5m). This would cost us $16.5 of $29m. It will only take us $4 to sign rookies. So you'd still have $9m to play with.That's assuming Decoud is released and TG retires.If we want to get really creative and restructure/extend Roddy/Spoon we can free up a bit more cap space to play with.Theres no reason we can't get 3 very good players. And I think thats being conservative. Maybe we don't do it, but we certainly have the capacity.Good Post. This is my concern. TD has shown that he is willing to bring 1 premier FA and maybe a couple of average guys. He has not shown that he is willing to spend money in FA to not only supplement the draft but to put us amongst the elite teams. We have enough money this year to go and get 3 very good players who would be immediate starters.Byrd is free. While OL and DL are priority #1. He is a guy we should be making a big push for ASAP. Right now our CBs are on rookie contracts and are improving so having 2 good safeties over the top of them would make them better.No reason why why we shouldnt be able to pick up Byrd and at least a good starting quality DT/DE AND OT/OG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didz Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Have they signed 3 good free agents in 6 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOEinPHX Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 What's consistently overlooked is that there are 31 other teams bidding in the free agent market and they're all looking at the same talent the Falcons are looking at. The idea that you can get the 3-4-5-6 guys you want is suddenly looking a lot less straightforward. Having the cap space and being able to pull off a deal are two very different things (especially when you're also juggling future year cap issues), so I think its more than a little inaccurate to just say, "Sure, they can do it.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 NoWhy not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Wall Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yes easily if we wanted to. I think we sign 2 key guys on Tuesday and then let the market settle and start signing guys to cheap bargain deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 What's consistently overlooked is that there are 31 other teams bidding in the free agent market and they're all looking at the same talent the Falcons are looking at. The idea that you can get the 3-4-5-6 guys you want is suddenly looking a lot less straightforward. Having the cap space and being able to pull off a deal are two very different things (especially when you're also juggling future year cap issues), so I think its more than a little inaccurate to just say, "Sure, they can do it.".That's true but I think the falcons need to make it a priority to sign 4 key free agents since they can or at least try to. I'm hoping to see the falcons sign a:-FS-3 linemen offense/defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks for clearing that up....hopefully the right moves are made so we can be SURE Super Bowl contention next season.I think Roddy will take a backoaded contract. Make it look nice but he wont see it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 With a potential $30 million, nooooooo it's not possible to sign at least 3 good free agents. And to those who think high prices players are the only ones that are good, no, that's not the reality of the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We haven't signed a good free agent since Michael Turner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyDirty Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I think we get 1 all us message board types covet and then a solid one along with some kick the tire signings a la Lofa Tatupu. I'd be very happy with 1 good signing on each line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yep.Randy Starks, DTChris Clemons, FSWillie Colon, RGThat would leave room for 1-2 more guys as well as Clemons would be offset by cutting DeCoud.I wouldnt mind bringing in a vet OLB as well. I like James Anderson as a value signing.Add Robinson at RT (1) and Tuitt/Hageman at DT (2) and we made some progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Yes easily if we wanted to. I think we sign 2 key guys on Tuesday and then let the market settle and start signing guys to cheap bargain deals.I think this is the right approach. Make a strong push or two early and then focus on undervalued reclamation projects with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjmw84 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 With the cap rising the next 2 yrs and pressure mounting on the front office. We will see the most active FA under Dimitroff. I know we cant assume we can get every target, but We have some situations in our favor. Pioli who is known for assessing OL/DL talent could have an inside track to Asomoah/Albert/T.Jackson. Nolan also has history with Starks and Soliai. We will not strike out in FA this year. I wouldnt be surprised if we got 3 out of the 5 I listed along with a big ticket acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five_Fifs Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I'm a real cap nerd and I'm actually working on a posts that you can expect to see this evening that explains how smartly structuring deals would allow us to make competitive offers to Byrd, Joseph, and Schwartz/ Asomoah and even have a sweet little carryover into next year. Doing so in the way I suggest would also keep us in great shape cap wise to be somewhat active in 2015 and "healthy" again in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Have they signed 3 good free agents in 6 years?depends on your definition of "good" and if you are counting re-signing their own FAsto you good may mean eliteto me good may mean a serviceable backup08 Turner, Hartsock, Foxworth, E Coleman, C Wire, Gravy Jackson---more here backup Dline etc09 Clabo, Koenen, Mike Peterson10 Clabo, Dahl, Snelling, Grimes, Brian Williams11 Svitek, Nicholas, Clabo, Mike Peterson, BlalockI stopped looking there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTUS12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 depends on what good means. Considering the fact that the cap will likely jump to $140 Mill next offseason, that we should have more cap space after releasing some more players and restructuring/extending contracts, and that we have hardly in money on the books after 2015 we are in great position to be big players in FA. Byrd will be our big get. Then after that we can get some quality players at poisons of need, especially since our most glaring needs, interior OL & DL, are cheaper positions. I'd like to see Byrd matched with both DTs from MIA, Asamoah at G, and Evan Dietrich-Smith instead of Hawley. Might even have enough left over for someone like Robert Ayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Absolutely...with or without Byrd.Ignoring creative cap structuring we could do Byrd ($9m) + Starks/Solai ($4m) + Asamoah ($3.5m). This would cost us $16.5 of $29m. It will only take us $4 to sign rookies. So you'd still have $9m to play with.That's assuming Decoud is released and TG retires.If we want to get really creative and restructure/extend Roddy/Spoon we can free up a bit more cap space to play with.Theres no reason we can't get 3 very good players. And I think thats being conservative. Maybe we don't do it, but we certainly have the capacity.This^ very well put sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stizz Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Absolutely we can. We're sitting at 30M with Tony and Decoud gone. Imagine where we'd sit after the restructure of Roddy, the restructure/release of Osi, and the possible release of one of Kroy/Sjax. And yes, from what I've heard that last option is being strongly considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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