lostone Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/us/west-virigina-chemical-contamination/Charleston, West Virginia (CNN) -- It sounds like a dangerous combination: massive tanks holding chemicals near a major water supply.That was the setup in West Virginia last week when a chemical spill contaminated a river supplying water to hundreds of thousands of people. Officials say there wasn't much regulation at the site where the spill occurred and that little is known about the chemical that leaked.Now, state officials say they're considering increasing oversight."Absolutely," Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin told CNN. "We need to do what we can to see that this kind of incident never happens again. There's no excuse for it.". congressmen say the spill exposes regulatory gaps in the country's chemical control laws.And many in the area are asking key questions: What caused thousands of gallons of a chemical used to clean coal to spill into the water? How dangerous is the chemical? And why didn't anyone catch the problem sooner?See West Virginia American Water Co. status mapState regulators last inspected site in 1991The last time a state environmental inspector visited the site where the chemical leaked, was 1991, according to Tom Aluise, a spokesman for the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection.State environmental officials said the facility -- owned by Freedom Industries, which supplies products for the coal-mining industry -- had the only permit it was required to have: an industrial storm water permit."Basically they had to monitor the runoff from the rain and send us the results every quarter. Those were the only regulatory requirements," said Randy Huffman, cabinet secretary for the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection. "The materials they were storing there is not a hazardous material."That's because the facility didn't process the chemicals, he said. It just stored them.The 1991 visit to the site in Charleston, the capital, occurred because it stored different materials that required regulation, Aluise said.A federal prosecutor said he's investigating to see whether any laws were broken when the chemical leaked into the Elk River.But even if no regulations were violated, rules in the state could change as a result of the spill."We're also, at the governor's request, developing some proposals for how we might more properly regulate these facilities in order to minimize the risk of a spill," Huffman told reporters Monday.As the cleanup and investigation into the spill continues, some federal lawmakers say the situation highlights a regulation problem."We are writing to request that you immediately schedule a hearing to examine the regulatory gaps that this incident has exposed in the nation's toxic chemical control laws," Rep. Henry A. Waxman, D-California, and Rep. Paul D. Tonko, D-New York said in a letter Monday.Little known about chemicalThe storage tank had been holding 4-methylcyclohexane methanol(MCHM), a licorice-scented chemical used to clean coal.Government health and safety officials say they don't know much about it.But they told about 300,000 people in nine counties to stop using the water once they discovered that 7,500 gallons of the chemical had leaked on Thursday.On Monday, they said people in some areas could start using the water again and assured them that it would be safe.Investigators are still looking into what caused the problem.This much is clear: somehow the chemical leaked out of the storage tank, breached a concrete wall surrounding the tank, seeped into the soil and reached the water supply.Freedom Industries President Gary Southern said last week that residents' safety had been his company's first priority since he learned about the leak."We have been working with local and federal regulatory, safety and environmental entities ... and are following all necessary steps to fix the issue," he said. "Our team has been working around the clock since the discovery to contain the leak to prevent further contamination."An emergency official told CNN that when he saw the tank, it looked old."I would say the tank was antique," said C.W. Sigman, deputy director of emergency services in Kanawha County.Elizabeth Scharman, West Virginia's poison control director, told CNN last week that the chemical inside the tanks had not been studied."We don't know the safety info, how quickly it goes into air, its boiling point," she said.That raises an important question, Waxman and Tonko said Monday."It is critically important that we understand how the law allowed a potentially harmful chemical to remain virtually untested for nearly forty years. ... We should not have to wait for a major contamination event to learn the most basic information about a toxic chemical in commerce," they said.A 2005 fact sheet about the chemical filed with West Virginia environmental officials offered guidance for what to do if a large spill is detected: "Prevent runoff from entering drains, sewers, or streams." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Freedom Industries. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padawan Knight Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 This wouldn't have happened if not for those environmental fascists crushing businesses. Less regulation is needed so this will never happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I need a defender of less regulations on this. Because this is some BS!!! Personally I am for less regulations where it makes sense but I don't think this makes sense Edited January 14, 2014 by lostone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andras Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Further proof that the EPA should be abolished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronBallsMcGinty Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Luckily West Virginians only drink Mountain Dew and rarely bathe. No big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnasty Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Luckily West Virginians only drink Mountain Dew and rarely bathe. No big deal.Can confirm, currently living in West Virginia. Relocated from Alabama. Also, it's kind of weird for WV to be in the spotlight about something. I'm used to people forgetting that it's even a state until you tell them that you live there. But damm, this place sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 So... Nothing ... Why does this thread get no traffic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andras Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 So... Nothing ... Why does this thread get no traffic...No wiggle room for certain posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 No wiggle room for certain posters.The lack of responses are very telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtsman Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The lack of responses are very telling.Telling of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Can confirm, currently living in West Virginia. Relocated from Alabama. Also, it's kind of weird for WV to be in the spotlight about something. I'm used to people forgetting that it's even a state until you tell them that you live there. But damm, this place sucks.Talk about outta the pan and into the fire...sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Telling of what?Our disdain for people throwing popcorn on our old az father or grandfather is greater than poisonous water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtsman Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Florida vs West Virginny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtsman Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't care what happens in West Virginia. Those inbreds can deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Flop Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Those of us for less regulation are usually not talking about this sort of problem. Containing dangerous chemicals to protect the water supply is not unreasonable to regulate. The sorts of regulations that we find obnoxious are more along the lines of this.The state of Texas now requires every new computer repair technician to obtain a private investigator’s license. In order to receive a private investigator’s license, an individual must either have a degree in criminal justice or must complete a three year apprenticeship with a licensed private investigator. If you are a computer repair technician that violates this law, or if you are a regular citizen that has a computer repaired by someone not in compliance with the law, you can be fined up to $4,000 and you can be put in jail for a year.Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ridiculous-regulations-big-government-2010-11?op=1#ixzz2qYpGGWUN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Now that is a stupid regulation. Thank you for a specific one rather than the tired "non specific regulations are bad".That is going to raise pay for techs quite a bit in Texas... Bye bye geek squad in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Those of us for less regulation are usually not talking about this sort of problem. Containing dangerous chemicals to protect the water supply is not unreasonable to regulate. The sorts of regulations that we find obnoxious are more along the lines of this.The state of Texas now requires every new computer repair technician to obtain a private investigator’s license. In order to receive a private investigator’s license, an individual must either have a degree in criminal justice or must complete a three year apprenticeship with a licensed private investigator. If you are a computer repair technician that violates this law, or if you are a regular citizen that has a computer repaired by someone not in compliance with the law, you can be fined up to $4,000 and you can be put in jail for a year.Read more: http://www.businessi...1#ixzz2qYpGGWUNTexas makes regulations like that but ignores fertilizer factories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Texas makes regulations like that but ignores fertilizer factories?Money... Thanks for the reminder of the fertilizer regulations... Or lack there of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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