ssippifalcon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I like him but i was just rewatching the bcs national champ game and the guy so out of shape. Not being able to last a full game is very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It was already reported he played with the flu in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 It was already reported he played with the flu in the game.oh well i missed that one lol thanks for the update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 No problem man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surgicalfalcon Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 You have to take into consideration that Auburn was running an up tempo offense. Our d-line is on rotation all the time anyway throughout the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 It was already reported he played with the flu in the game.Well in that case, his performance was very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geaux_Falcons Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 You have to take into consideration that Auburn was running an up tempo offense. Our d-line is on rotation all the time anyway throughout the game.I don't think anyone who is saying Jernigan is out of shape is taking this into consideration. Auburn was used to wearing teams down by the 4th Qtr and that's how they won games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Matural Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Rather have Donald or hageman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Rather have Donald or hagemanAgreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Let's not forget he wasn't been rotated out as well. Edited January 11, 2014 by Kennesaw77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Let's not forget he wasn't been rotated as well.english translation, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyburrell Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 english translation, please.Yeah we have NO idea what you are saying... the Grammar patrol is amazing here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSprings Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Thought the same thing while watching. Wasnt being a football player with a championship on the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datchrisb1 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Rather have Donald or hagemanIts a possibility we could have both if Donald drops to the 2nd round. It could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga_spider Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Rather have Donald or hagemanWhat about Daniel McCullers from Tennessee? This guy is that space eating unmovable object we need for our run D and to help our LBs get sacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 What about Daniel McCullers from Tennessee? This guy is that space eating unmovable object we need for our run D and to help our LBs get sacksthere are better options for that than McCullers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Carasik Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Jernigan is a late 1-early 2. Very good player though.McCullers is meh. Huge body, but not tough. Probably a late 3-early 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyburrell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I love McCullers, because you can't coach size and while he has some growing to do technique wise, he is extremely strong and athletic and gives great effort and is unblockable by a single guy.... he is not the superstar, he is the guy that you pair with a McDonald, Hageman or Garrison Smith and they end up making play after play.Then you single McCuller and he parks your Center or Guard in the QB or RB's lap!We need a beast, we have not had one, which has made our line so easily blockable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Carasik Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I love McCullers, because you can't coach size and while he has some growing to do technique wise, he is extremely strong and athletic and gives great effort and is unblockable by a single guy.... he is not the superstar, he is the guy that you pair with a McDonald, Hageman or Garrison Smith and they end up making play after play.Then you single McCuller and he parks your Center or Guard in the QB or RB's lap!We need a beast, we have not had one, which has made our line so easily blockable!he;s not that guy. That guy is Hageman, Tuitt or Carrethers. McCullers' issue is that after 3-4 plays he's winded. And then he loses leverage because he's just ridiculously tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyburrell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 he;s not that guy. That guy is Hageman, Tuitt or Carrethers.McCullers' issue is that after 3-4 plays he's winded. And then he loses leverage because he's just ridiculously tall.I agree that McCullers conditioning is an issue-which usually can be fixed (apparently not by our current staff see: Holmes and Konz) as far as on the field, I disagree all of the guys you just mentioned are the playmakers that would play well with a McCullers or a Justin Ellis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Carasik Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I agree that McCullers conditioning is an issue-which usually can be fixed (apparently not by our current staff see: Holmes and Konz) as far as on the field, I disagree all of the guys you just mentioned are the playmakers that would play well with a McCullers or a Justin Ellis!at this point, I know you have no clue what you are talking about and are just picking the two biggest players in the draft and not the best talents. Atlanta is better off with a 310-330 pound 1-tech who can penetrate as well as plug than a 350 pound fat body that can only plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyburrell Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Scott now I have defended you on this very board. To say that I don't know what I am talking about because I don't agree with you is insulting. I like all of the exact guys you like, I just want to pair them with a huge pocket collapser.I love JJ Watts and Justin Smith, but would two of them work in the 4-3? No.History shows it works best with one wiggle guy and one stout guy, at this point we have neither.My dream scenario would be a Linval Joseph and Hageman or McDonald plus Ellis or McCullers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Both those guys would be animals in a 4-3. Smith has plenty of experience in a 4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga_spider Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 at this point, I know you have no clue what you are talking about and are just picking the two biggest players in the draft and not the best talents. Atlanta is better off with a 310-330 pound 1-tech who can penetrate as well as plug than a 350 pound fat body that can only plug.McCullers is not the type to play all 3 downs but he is the guy on first and second down we need. Coach Nolan had said he prefers 11 players to have 2 sacks oppose to having 2 guys with 11. And McCullers can free up an opportunity for another guy to make a play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Carasik Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 McCullers is not the type to play all 3 downs but he is the guy on first and second down we need. Coach Nolan had said he prefers 11 players to have 2 sacks oppose to having 2 guys with 11.And McCullers can free up an opportunity for another guy to make a play.But he really isn't. Nolan's quote was 10 guys with 4 as opposed to 4 guys with 10. However, to get that you need a guy who can get 4. Not a guy who won't ever get 1 like McCullers.Scott now I have defended you on this very board. To say that I don't know what I am talking about because I don't agree with you is insulting. I like all of the exact guys you like, I just want to pair them with a huge pocket collapser.I love JJ Watts and Justin Smith, but would two of them work in the 4-3? No.History shows it works best with one wiggle guy and one stout guy, at this point we have neither.My dream scenario would be a Linval Joseph and Hageman or McDonald plus Ellis or McCullers.Then you need to pick guys who are actually pocket collapsers. There's a reason why McCullers won't go until the mid-late 4th round. it's because he can't pass rush. and Ellis just isn't that good. he's 360 pounds, but that's it.Watt and Smith would work fine in the 4-3 as the 3-tech. But acting like Carrethers at 330 or Hageman at 315 aren't the guys who can play the 1 tech shows a lack of knowledge in their games. You don't need a 350+ pound guy to collapse the pocket. Normally 350 pound guys CANT collapse the pocket.Linval Joseph is a 1-tech who is right at 330 pounds. Hageman can play the 3. But Ellis likely won't get drafted. because he's not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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