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When The Heck Did 4515 Yds, A 67.4 Comp % And 89.6 Rating


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Make someone a bad QB? Also 26 TDs and of course 17 ints..

Let's see all this happened with no run game, two top flight WRs out, the worse line in history of NFL.

Seriously, how can you hate on the kid?

Btw compare Matt's stats to Flacco http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/11252/joe-flacco

And why you're BS'ing, Matt had better stats than Cam Newton. Who had a solid running game and a great defense.

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Make someone a bad QB? Also 26 TDs and of course 17 ints..

Let's see all this happened with no run game, two top flight WRs out, the worse line in history of NFL.

Seriously, how can you hate on the kid?

Btw compare Matt's stats to Flacco http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/11252/joe-flacco

And why you're BS'ing, Matt had better stats than Cam Newton. Who had a solid running game and a great defense

matts stats to flaccos?

Flacco 1

Ryan 0

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Julio played 5 games and Roddy played well down stretch and still had a HOF TE

Those stats would be good if his ints were lower

Those stats would be good if he helped lead his team to a winning season

I can't argue the ints--they're high. And several were crushing. I'm bit sure Aaron Rodgers could have gave this team a winning record this year

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You are what your record says you are. Matt had a great season personally, but if the team sucks, then he sucks. I'm pretty sure he'd tell you that there are areas for improvement.

Of course, if he had a stout OL and a winning record, he would be considered a superstar with the numbers he posted. He can't do it by himself, but great numbers and four wins means nothing more than a QB with horrible stats and four wins.

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You're wasting your time Msalmon some people are just absolutely convinced that Matt is mediocre at best. You can't fix stupid

He's not mediocre. But he quarterbacked a bad football team, so he's naturally going to take some of the blame. Look at Terry Bradshaw and Bob Griese's stats. Comparatively, they were horrible but they're both in the HoF. It's not because of their stats, it's because of their records. I love MR2 and I am grateful he didn't get injured this year. But when his career is done, the 12 losses will still be posted to his W/L.
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Educate yourself MSLAMON go look at Eli 2011 season

terrible defense

worst ranked rushing game

lead Giants to a Super Bowl

and put up stats Ryan did

lol you mean that team with Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs combining for over 1200 yds rushing and 16 rushing TDs?

Oh and victor Cruz and Hakim Nicks combining for over 2700 yds receiving and 16 TD rec . Oh and Ballard and Manningham combining for over 1200 yds receiving and 8 rec TDs.

Were they the same team that had Pierre-Paul with 16.5 sacks, Osi with 9 sacks, Tuck with 5 sacks, canty with 4 sacks, Tollefsen with 5 sacks and Kiwanuka with 3.5 sacks?

The same defense with 48 sacks total? And the 9th ranked in total offense?

Yup they were terrible. Great comparison, troll

You are what your record says you are. Matt had a great season personally, but if the team sucks, then he sucks. I'm pretty sure he'd tell you that there are areas for improvement.

Of course, if he had a stout OL and a winning record, he would be considered a superstar with the numbers he posted. He can't do it by himself, but great numbers and four wins means nothing more than a QB with horrible stats and four wins.

Agree.

OP ,why oh why did you consider it necessary to open up another troll forum ?

It's fun

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lol you mean that team with Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs combining for over 1200 yds rushing and 16 rushing TDs?

Oh and victor Cruz and Hakim Nicks combining for over 2700 yds receiving and 16 TD rec . Oh and Ballard and Manningham combining for over 1200 yds receiving and 8 rec TDs.

Were they the same team that had Pierre-Paul with 16.5 sacks, Osi with 9 sacks, Tuck with 5 sacks, canty with 4 sacks, Tollefsen with 5 sacks and Kiwanuka with 3.5 sacks?

The same defense with 48 sacks total? And the 9th ranked in total offense?

Yup they were terrible. Great comparison, troll

Agree.

It's fun

Giants run game was ranked 32nd in 2011

facts

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Giants run game was ranked 32nd in 2011

facts

Fact it was effective. Particularly late in season and playoffs. 1200 yds and 16 TDs is great. Also fact is they had 48 total team sacks and 4 very good and healthy wrs. Another fact is they ended up with the 9th overall ranked offensive unit

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Fact it was effective. Particularly late in season and playoffs. 1200 yds and 16 TDs is great. Also fact is they had 48 total team sacks and 4 very good and healthy wrs. Another fact is they ended up with the 9th overall ranked offensive unit

You do realize you're talking to a brick wall?
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It's fun, they get flustered when you throw stats back at them

Not flustered at all I pressed you with facts and you just countered

Giants run game was ranked 32nd

Defense was ranked 27th

Yet Eli Manning lead Giants to 9 wins and also helped Giants to a Super Bowl

Ryan on the other hand lead Falcons to a 4-12 record

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Make someone a bad QB? Also 26 TDs and of course 17 ints..

Let's see all this happened with no run game, two top flight WRs out, the worse line in history of NFL.

Seriously, how can you hate on the kid?

Btw compare Matt's stats to Flacco http://espn.go.com/n...1252/joe-flacco

And why you're BS'ing, Matt had better stats than Cam Newton. Who had a solid running game and a great defense.

I said it in an earlier post. If we had a good defense, we would be in the playoffs. Despite all of the injuries. That's what a good QB can do for a team. Take away Cam's defense, and they probably won't win 4 games. We lost a lot of close game. We really took just 3 whoopings.

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