Rewind Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Simple question. After reviewing the Saints vs Panther game and looking back on this season.How many starting QB in this league with everybody healthy would trade their skill position players for what Cam has to work with?I can think of 2 maybe 3.JETS, RAIDERS, maybe the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 The Panthers have 'weapons' on offense? News to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Mo Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 They're decent but most teams have better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart2Ryan+beyond Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Simple question. After reviewing the Saints vs Panther game and looking back on this season.How many starting QB in this league with everybody healthy would trade their skill position players for what Cam has to work with?I can think of 2 maybe 3.JETS, RAIDERS, maybe the Rams.That's a fair question. You might add the Jags to that list. I think the JETS have the worst skill players (meaning WRs and TEs) to complement Geno. Raiders have Streater who likely would start alongside a healthy SS89. Rams have Tavon and Jared Cook, but I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Olsen. I think Olsen is under-utliized in your attack.BTW, that screen play that you run where you fake a screen to one-side and throw it to the other is a thing of beauty! Edited December 24, 2013 by Bart2Ryan+beyond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 That's a fair question. You might add the Jags to that list. I think the JETS have the worst skill players (meaning WRs and TEs) to complement Geno. Raiders have Streater who likely would start alongside a healthy SS89. Rams have Tavon and Jared Cook, but I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Olsen. I think Olsen is under-utliized in your attack.BTW, that screen play that you run where you fake a screen to one-side and throw it to the other is a thing of beauty!I would have said the Jags to but I like Blackman (w/o baggage of course) and Cecil Short over everybody not name Smith at WR. And even then I like them over the 34 year old Smitty. I like Olsen over Lewis but again that difference is closers then the WR talent of both teams and the RBC group in my opinion is a wash. Besides Tolbert at FB. So I'm still only seeing the Jets and the Raiders really. I said maybe the Rams but I like their young group of WR more then the Panthers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 When only the Jets, Raiders and maybe Jags want to trade you - WRs, TEs and Rbs, then you know something is wrong. Even Ryan, when JJ went down, probably said -"It could be worse, I could be in Cam's position" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabooAlwaysWins Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I would trade everything for Brees but not Cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I would trade everything for Brees but not Cam.You need to trade for some reading glasses. I don't think that was the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bird is Da Word Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 When only the Jets, Raiders and maybe Jags want to trade you - WRs, TEs and Rbs, then you know something is wrong.Even Ryan, when JJ went down, probably said -"It could be worse, I could be in Cam's position"I don't think Matt would mind having a top 3 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabooAlwaysWins Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 You need to trade for some reading glasses. I don't think that was the question.Would not trade anything for Cam...that you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYG4 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) Would not trade anything for Cam...that you want?The question is how many teams would trade their offensive skill position players for Carolina's offensive skill position players. Not including the QBs. Edited December 25, 2013 by NYG4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 The question is how many teams would trade their offensive skill position players for Carolina's offensive skill position players. Not including the QBs.I forgot reading wasn't a fundamental in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share Posted December 25, 2013 I don't think Matt would mind having a top 3 defense.That wasn't the question either but I guess giving Matt Ryan a top 3 defense to add to a top 3 WR corp a Hof TE and a pro-bowl RB is what he needs to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabooAlwaysWins Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I forgot reading wasn't a fundamental in Florida.My bad bruh let metry one more time...Cam sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born A-Ginn Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Olsen has good hands... and that's about it. He gets destroyed in the blocking game sometimes (though at least he can block a little) and you literally only have to touch the dude to make him fall down after he gets the ball.Lol I love the dude but I don't think I've EVER seen him get a yard after contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Jets and Raiders. Maybe Dolphins, Wallace has been a bust. No idea who their rb is. Tanny has had a very solid season. Much better then I expected from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bird is Da Word Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 That wasn't the question either but I guess giving Matt Ryan a top 3 defense to add to a top 3 WR corp a Hof TE and a pro-bowl RB is what he needs to win.lol. Okay guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Solid Running Backs 2-3 deep, Smith at WR..... The Panthers aren't so weak at these positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 The question is how many teams would trade their offensive skill position players for Carolina's offensive skill position players. Not including the QBs.The better question is how many teams would trade the falcons for their OLINE (and we will throw in our DLINE for free) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born A-Ginn Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Solid Running Backs 2-3 deep, Smith at WR..... The Panthers aren't so weak at these positions.We've had Stew for like 2 games the whole year, and he's been a non-factor when he's been around the past 2 years anyways. Deangelo... I don't even know how to describe him. He either rips off a TD or kills drives by getting tackled for a loss or no gain over and over and over again. Tolbert we only ever use in goal line and 3rd/4th and 1 situations. The most criminally underused player on the roster IMO, but he does a lot of blocking and is listed as FB.Smitty isn't even close to the gamer he used to be... and it's pretty moot now since he's injured. Edited December 26, 2013 by Ginn & Juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Solid Running Backs 2-3 deep, Smith at WR..... The Panthers aren't so weak at these positions.You willing to trade Graham for all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewind Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) The better question is how many teams would trade the falcons for their OLINE (and we will throw in our DLINE for free)Dolphins, Colts, Raiders, Redskins, Buffalo, Giants, Pittsburgh, and the Panthers are probably even with your Oline. Edited December 27, 2013 by Rewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 We've had Stew for like 2 games the whole year, and he's been a non-factor when he's been around the past 2 years anyways. Deangelo... I don't even know how to describe him. He either rips off a TD or kills drives by getting tackled for a loss or no gain over and over and over again. Tolbert we only ever use in goal line and 3rd/4th and 1 situations. The most criminally underused player on the roster IMO, but he does a lot of blocking and is listed as FB.Smitty isn't even close to the gamer he used to be... and it's pretty moot now since he's injured.Your rushing game is ranked #11 and is only a few yards away from being a Top 6 attack. It ain't as bad as it's being made out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 You willing to trade Graham for all that?Nope. But if you throw in Tolbert plus a 1st and 2nd rounder, we can talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYG4 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Your rushing game is ranked #11 and is only a few yards away from being a Top 6 attack. It ain't as bad as it's being made out to be.Take Cam's totals out they fall to 25th. Edited December 27, 2013 by NYG4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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