Falc_Fan_Since_Six Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) This team would be close to being right back in business. For all the whining and gnashing of teeth by the "tanker morons" about our draft pick it occurred to me watching the game today we would still have been pretty decent with all out players on the field healthy at one time. Not saying we would have gone to the SB but having SJax, Roddy Julio Tony G and HD all on the field at once and healthy all year probably would have us sitting at about 8-6 right now. Just seeing Roddy finally healthy these last three weeks or so and seeing the difference that's made has convinced me of that. That being said, there will be improvements made with the draft and hopefully free agency as well. If we can get one or two quality players along the O line and the same along the D line we will be good to go. This team is definitely not the major rebuilding project that some are making it out to be. Edited December 16, 2013 by Falc_Fan_Since_Six Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS91 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) No ******* chance. We'd be a 6-10 or 7-9 team at best if no one had gotten hurt. Our OL is trash, and would have been trash even if Baker and Johnson hadn't gotten hurt. Biermann being healthy all year would make our D 27th overall instead of 30th. Edited December 16, 2013 by RS91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Hard to say. This team quit in the middle of the season, then tried a little better during the second half.We get a decent guard and center our line would be fine. We need some pressure on D.Steven Jackson sucks though. Healthy or not he runs like a taller michael Turner Edited December 16, 2013 by Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 This team would be close to being right back in business. For all the whining and gnashing of teeth by the "tanker morons" about our draft pick it occurred to me watching the game today we would still have been pretty decent with all out players on the field healthy at one time. Not saying we would have gone to the SB but having SJax, Roddy Julio Tony G and HD all on the field at once and healthy all year probably would have us sitting at about 8-6 right now. Just seeing Roddy finally healthy these last three weeks or so and seeing the difference that's made has convinced me of that. That being said, there will be improvements made with the draft and hopefully free agency as well. If we can get one or two quality players along the O line and the same along the D line we will be good to go. This team is definitely not the major rebuilding project that some are making it out to be.You forgot about the d-line.I think we currently have 1 DT under contract for next season and we need depth everywhere.We're not going to have as much cap room as people think next season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSouthGeorgia Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think you are right . With our skill positions in place all season long the only x factor besides the corners playing well as rookies would be how well the o line held up. In spite of that Ryan had early season success getting the ball to Julio and if Roddy had been healthy who knows? I do think its become apparent who we need to keep and who needs to go - Holmes is a project still, Kontz failed at center, RT is still a major sore point - Baker needs to get healthy - we need an answer other than Holmes if he goes down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSouthGeorgia Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 we have won with a crappy d for 5 years. Controling the football does wonders for a bad defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dog Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I agree with the op on this one. Replace Gonzalez with Toilolo if he pans out and get everyone healthy and we should be right back in it again. Also, pray the Ryan watches some of Cams game films and mans up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient raptor Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 When has Baker or Wetherspoon been healthy for a full season? Can't count on either to play a full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Toilolo will be a nice-sized target, but he does not have Gonzo's ability complete contested catches.Even with everyone healthy, this team has fatal flaws that have been exposed by the injuries experienced. I take this as a blessing. TD is forced to see and address our greatest needs-------The Lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Toilolo will be a nice-sized target, but he does not have Gonzo's ability complete contested catches.Even with everyone healthy, this team has fatal flaws that have been exposed by the injuries experienced. I take this as a blessing. TD is forced to see and address our greatest needs-------The Lines.Sometimes I think people don't really understand how truly good TG is and what he brings to the offense. We're not going to be able to just replace him. The offensive scheme is going to have to change without having him in the middle of the field making contested catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If TD did nothing and the Falcons got healthy?TD and Smitty would be getting pink slips while the Falcons are sporting a 7-9 record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Is this a joke? We'd be 6-7 wins at best if healthyBaker is a bad lineman, a fullback won't matter, Johnson wasn't gonna start, Weatherspoon has never been great, Biermann wouldn't start on most teams.Roddy and Julio are the only injuries that matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJeff1975 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 This team would be close to being right back in business. For all the whining and gnashing of teeth by the "tanker morons" about our draft pick it occurred to me watching the game today we would still have been pretty decent with all out players on the field healthy at one time. Not saying we would have gone to the SB but having SJax, Roddy Julio Tony G and HD all on the field at once and healthy all year probably would have us sitting at about 8-6 right now. Just seeing Roddy finally healthy these last three weeks or so and seeing the difference that's made has convinced me of that. That being said, there will be improvements made with the draft and hopefully free agency as well. If we can get one or two quality players along the O line and the same along the D line we will be good to go. This team is definitely not the major rebuilding project that some are making it out to be.The only moron here is anyone who thinks this team would have been in the playoff hunt period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Well, guys are getting older. Our top 3 DTs are free agents. Are they really worth brining back, Peters maybe? To me its a chance to improve at that position. Nobody besides an aging Osi can get to the QB with any type of frequency. Spoon looks to be injured again and can't stay on the field. We need more talent at LB without a doubt. Not sure if Konz is going to work at RG, but if he is not, you need to finally get that spot taken care of. RBs are aging and not dynamic playmakers.Bottom line, TD has to make moves to improve this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 No...I think with everyone healthy we are 8-8, 7-9...not back in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 How did our front 7 and O-lines look when healthy? Why do you assume they suddenly stop being an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 This team would be close to being right back in business. For all the whining and gnashing of teeth by the "tanker morons" about our draft pick it occurred to me watching the game today we would still have been pretty decent with all out players on the field healthy at one time. Not saying we would have gone to the SB but having SJax, Roddy Julio Tony G and HD all on the field at once and healthy all year probably would have us sitting at about 8-6 right now. Just seeing Roddy finally healthy these last three weeks or so and seeing the difference that's made has convinced me of that. That being said, there will be improvements made with the draft and hopefully free agency as well. If we can get one or two quality players along the O line and the same along the D line we will be good to go. This team is definitely not the major rebuilding project that some are making it out to be.You have been vocal about this ober the past two days, and I get it too.My hard line stance is as follows.Our lines are roached out, based on the pretext of doing nothing we know the followingto be as absolute.Mike Johnson, while we are hopeful, we have nothing to base opinion if he isgood or terrible at the position. (you never take this gamble in the off season)Sam Baker. No need to waste time typing anything on the guy.Lamar Holmes.Even after many games, the guy gets jobbed in every game.Sure that happens to every player, but the opponents dictateexactly when to school himCenter/ RG,,,,,,,,Pure garbage at both postionsDT, Yep we need one badlyDE/NT, these are the hardest position to fill in the NFL being thatthe DE needs to get double digit sacks or he gets called a bust.Biermann is injured (no guaranttes)Osi is aging at light speed.Point is that the higher we position the team in the draft, the greater tha chancewe get to infuse the team with Top Ranked tallent.This off season we need no fewer than 4 Decent line starters, and yesterday proved thatwe also need a new Safety.If TD does nothing then 2014 will make 2013 look like a winning season in comparrison.These are my absolutes based on closely following the NFL for over 52 years.So yeah, I have seen it all many times over.Not just with the Falcons, but with other teams as well.So after the next draft we will no longer be drafting in the top 10.This draft and Free Agency is Critical.We will be come a Top Team or we will sink into the mire of mediocrityfor the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotty Nice Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 LMAO. This is the most delusional thing I've ever read here. This is not something that's going to be fixed while doing nothing except waiting for our players to age one more year. How did your brain allow you to post this topic without sending an electrical impulse down your arm to slap yourself before you could click the mouse? Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toadfishtom Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If TD did nothing blah blah blah........are you stupid? O-line when healthy chumps,line backers weak,D-line lame, pass rush zero,this team needs depth at every position, and lets not forget Smitty note pad...did all that sound negative? have a nice day!!! embrace the suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfishtom Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 LMAO. This is the most delusional thing I've ever read here. This is not something that's going to be fixed while doing nothing except waiting for our players to age one more year.How did your brain allow you to post this topic without sending an electrical impulse down your arm to slap yourself before you could click the mouse? Jesus Christ.YES I agree...some people would rather believe a happy lie, than a hard truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Its apparent that many posters/fans have understandably become jaded by the frustrations of the 2013 season. I am not sure why everyone is mocking the OP, though. With a fully healthy Roddy to start the year, it's probable that we start the year 5-0 and the mindset of the team would be completely different as a result. The Falcons wouod be a confident team which results in better play. We would definitely be a playoff team had we started the season with Roddy healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotty Nice Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Its apparent that many posters/fans have understandably become jaded by the frustrations of the 2013 season. I am not sure why everyone is mocking the OP, though. With a fully healthy Roddy to start the year, it's probable that we start the year 5-0 and the mindset of the team would be completely different as a result. The Falcons wouod be a confident team which results in better play. We would definitely be a playoff team had we started the season with Roddy healthy.Is there some kind of insanely stupid inside joke that I'm not in on? RODDY WHITE would have made us 5-0???Is there a Falcons message board where people know how football works?Are you Thomas Dimitroff? Edited December 16, 2013 by Cap Tipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconsIn2012 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Is there some kind of insanely stupid inside joke that I'm not in on? RODDY WHITE would have made us 5-0???Is there a Falcons message board were people know how football works?Are you Thomas Dimitroff?Sorry bro, you are not remembering our early games. Roddy's ability to move the chains and control the clock would have been so helpful in the early part of our schedule. His presence would have allowed us to beat the Saints, Dolphins and likely Jets. That's 5-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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