Guest Deisel Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 South Africa is an incredible place by many standards. 1 standard though is Not so impressive. Its quality of life. Standards have actually dropped in many areas since the Communist ANC took over, some 20 years ago. Is this what Mandela wanted, envisioned for his people?As a devout communist, how could equality truely come about. Equality to a communist means equal poorness for the mass's controlled by a military run Govt at the top. How, why then is SA losing so much ground even with the hard won freedoms from apartheid?The ANC controlled by the Bantu tribes aren't even native to SA. They are for the most part North Africans with a mixture of Arabic in their blood. The Real natives to South Africa are the Bushmen and the Hottentots. Like the Australian aboriginals, they've been persecuted and decimated over the years by the Venda's, the Tswana and the Swazis. All of these tribes are controlled by despots and warrior clans. There is NO peace there with those in charge and the Cape still populated by whites is doing far better then the Bush country.So, my question is still, is South Africa better off with Communist in control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 How is this remotely a concern to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Redskin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Cheap diamonds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatcorn Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Cheap diamonds?Diamonds are worthless at the end of the day. The only reason they hold value is due to artificial scarcity and decades old ad campaigns that tied them to things like marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 "Better off" is relative to what you are comparing it to.Is it better off for Blacks,Mixed races,Asians...ect?Yes. Under the new system hypothetically all of them can end up upper middle class and even rich while sharing the same rights as anyone else in the society.For Boers?No, because without apartheid nothing separates them from being trash in Society.South Africa is made up of many different classes which went along with race.On the black side you had a hierarchy of sortSwazi ZulusMixed race capetonians(cape coloureds)XhosaChineseOther ZuluIndianOther Bantu peoplesMalaysImmigrants blacksThen on the white side you hadEnglishGermansOther British people(Scotland mostly)Other white Africans(Ex-Rhodesians, German Nambians being the most recent here)Other European ImmigrantsBoersThe boers were the bottom of the whites, and to make themselves feel better, they set up apartheid which was a legal distinction to make sure all of the black groups were below them.The ANC taking power ruined this fragile ego, and they were hurt the most by this. South Africa, in their eyes, was ruined from that point.The ANC is really just a political movement to get blacks equal rights. Not really a political party in the traditional sense, but a reaction to the major issue around them.Julius Malema, EX ANC youth leader, states it best in this video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGy1fbFxYcThe ANC is the revolutionary house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatcorn Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Non-white poor people being crushed and marginalized under oppressive class system = totally cool with snake and tahuyaman.Rich white colonialists being a little less rich while non-white poor people have Democracy = DEPLORABLE!You guys are the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) When a country turns into a crime ridden ***-hole, everyone suffers and gets victimized. The criminal class doesn't discriminate.Yes it does. Criminals attack low hanging fruit.In the new south Africa blacks and everyone else finally have the opportunity to stop being low hanging fruit, and take a piece of the pie. Edited December 13, 2013 by Forever Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Diamonds are worthless at the end of the day. The only reason they hold value is due to artificial scarcity and decades old ad campaigns that tied them to things like marriage.tigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Criminals attack anyone if they believe they can get away with it. Black, white, Asian etc. they don't discriminate.yeYes it does. Criminals attack low hanging fruit.In the new south Africa blacks and everyone else finally have the opportunity to stop being low hanging fruit, and take a piece of the pie.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It makes real sense to rob a poor person, stupid liberal logic. This is carlx logic stoopid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Criminals attack anyone if they believe they can get away with it. Black, white, Asian etc. they don't discriminate.You get away with it from poor people.Look at pictures of rich neighborhoods or even new middle class neighborhoods in South Africa.;Huge wallsBars on home windowsCameras everywherePrivate security teams working 24/7The criminals dont go anywhere near here, and they never did. Blacks,Asians, and mixed people finally have at least the slightest shot at getting into these places now, and for that reason alone the ANC(who I feel are a crap party politically) has made South Africa better than it was. Edited December 13, 2013 by Forever Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 And why do they think they need these security measures? And how do I get away with it from the poor?Its like that in all developing countries. People with means live secluded from the poor.You can get away from the poor with Money. Make money and these problems will go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Africans...running things...into the ground, lolCan you say Deeetroit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deisel Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The ANC is more corrrupt then any faction in control os south africa in modern times. The lack of structure, industry, and the horid education standards are all functions of a top down, tyranical power structure, concerned only with their power. These folks have made south africa look more like haiti. The goodness of ending aparthied allowed a corrupting idelogue to assume control of a country and all the good will the world showed in apartheids retreat, enslaved the populace with even more squalor and inhumanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Detroit is not much different than any American city where liberalism has been running rampant unchecked.It's more than just liberalism. Government has always been corrupt, but these cities, run by new blood, take it to a whole other level of waste, fraud and corruption. They think, "ain't nobody around but us new folk, who'll care?" and are just silly blatant about things, figuring the local news won't do much and if any whitey at the state level complains, they cry racism, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 So? How does this dispute anything I've said here?Beofre the ANC blacks and Asians didnt have the opportunity to make the type of money that would get them away from the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Face it Julian, the Middle East is Earth's armpit and Africa it's rectum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 And where did I ever dispute that? I simply said South Africa is basically a criminal free for all and no one racial group is exempt from being victimized.So it would be better under the ANC.Face it Julian, the Middle East is Earth's armpit and Africa it's rectumWhy would I care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 So it would be better under the ANC.Why would I care?A truth not predicated on your concern or lack thereof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) A truth not predicated on your concern or lack thereof My parents had it pretty nice growing up there though.8 track stereoColor TV in Every roomCan chew half a piece of Khat every dayThe African dream niggaaaBut it's not. It's worse for some, but better for no one.Its better for the blacks and Asians who can now make the money not to be victimized by the poor. Edited December 13, 2013 by Forever Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 My parents had it pretty nice growing up there though.8 track stereoColor TV in Every roomCan chew half a piece of Khat every dayThe African dream niggaaaMoms got a killer 'stache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deisel Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 This NY Times story is all too brief in description and due to a Media black out regarding the true down turn in South Africa, its an eye opener. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/06/world/africa/06safrica.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Moms got a killer 'stache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Africans...running things...into the ground, lolCan you say Deeetroit?^^^Saying black people cannot government. How is this not racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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