Sidecar Falcon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292497/article/qb-index-ranking-the-starters-132<p> QB Index: Ranking the starters 1-32271By Gregg RosenthalAround The League EditorPublished: Dec. 4, 2013 at 11:14 a.m.Russell Wilson makes you want to speak in cliches. He makes you want to believe in "clutch" or a player's innate ability to rise to the moment. Or other nonsense like that.After a relatively slow start to the season, Wilson played his best game of the season in Week 7 on "Thursday Night Football" in Arizona. He topped himself in prime time on Monday against the New Orleans Saints.Starting with that Cardinals game, Wilson has thrown for 14 touchdowns with two interceptions, averaging a ridiculous 10.35 yards per attempt. He's overcome a leaky offensive line, connecting on a high percentage of passes while also being the most efficient deep-ball thrower in the league. Only the San Francisco 49ers have fewer pass attempts than Seattle, but the Seahawks are aggressive when they do throw.Wilson's average pass length on completions is 7.74 yards, far higher than Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Tom Brady and every other quarterback in my top 10 below.Wilson is not the NFL MVP (Manning is putting together an all-time season). But Wilson already deserves to be mentioned among the best quarterbacks in football. He makes the smart plays and the spectacular plays. He beats the perfectly called blitz and is finishing another season strong. He makes me want to write corny.This is the Quarterback Index. Every four games, I rank all 32 starters, top-to-bottom. This is one of those weeks. The rankings are based on 2013 play alone. Top of the food chain1. Peyton Manning2. Philip Rivers3. Drew Brees4. Russell Wilson5. Aaron Rodgers (in absentia)I could have included Manning's entire highlight reel against Kansas City. It was one of the best collection of throws by any quarterback all season. But I chose the play to the right because it's such a Manning moment. Third-and-long in a key spot. Manning recognizes the blitz, moves well in the pocket to avoid pressure and throws a dart into tight coverage. Wes Welker does the rest. Any discussion about the MVP race should have ended against the Chiefs. Manning's arm looks just fine when he can set his feet.Rivers can't buy a break this season. He played well against a strong Bengals defense, but his receivers lost two fumbles and dropped another pass that turned into an interception. Rivers' pace has slowed down slightly after midseason, but he's been the next steadiest performer behind Manning. Next level6. Tom Brady 7. Matthew Stafford 8. Ben Roethlisberger 9. Andrew Luck 10. Cam Newton 11. Nick Foles 12. Bears quarterback13. Tony Romo14. Matt RyanIf these rankings were based only on the last five weeks, Brady might be No. 1. ... It sounds strange, but Newton isn't playing much different than a year ago. The defense around him is far better and he's avoiding mistakes, but the Panthers' offense is a little worse overall. Newton is practically impossible to stop in short-yardage situations and deserves to be mentioned as a top 10 quarterback.Foles isn't quite as impressive on Game Rewind as his numbers indicate, but no one could be. TheEagles' offense under Foles stretches the field and gets receivers open after the catch. He ranks eighth in average pass length through the air (9.23 yards) and first in average yards after catch by his receivers. In short: The Eagles are hitting defenses at every level. Chip Kelly has over-delivered on his hype.I can't blame Colts offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton for wanting to run. Indianapolis' pass protection is awful and Luck's receiving crew is falling apart. Darrius Heyward-Bey is turning into an unmitigated disaster. It's December and the Colts are counting on Da'Rick Rogers to carry the team. This closing stretch will test Luck to see if he can carry a team all by himself. ... Romo has cut down on mistakes at the expense of big plays. He's not playing poorly, but his ranking has slowly declined all season, with his yards-per-attempt (7.14) a career low by a big margin. Middle of the pack15. Colin Kaepernick 16. Ryan Tannehill 17. Eli Manning 18. Joe Flacco19. Alex Smith20. Carson Palmer21. Mike Glennon22. Robert Griffin III23. Andy DaltonKaepernick seems like a game-plan quarterback. When 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman dials up the right plays, Kaepernick can look almost impossible to stop. But the entire passing attack has crumbled against its toughest competition, and the49ers' closing stretch is difficult. The difference between Kaepernick and Tannehill or Griffin: Kaepernick still makes five "wow" throws every week.Tannehill has been solid in his second season without making huge strides. His deep ball is inconsistent. He had a lot of good moments in the last two weeks, so perhaps he's ready to get on a roll. ... Flacco hasplayed his best football the last two weeks as well, with a focus on vertical strikes. The same, oddly, is true about Alex Smith. This is the highest he's been ranked all season despite Kansas City's losing streak. He's shown accuracy and onions for the last three weeks. Hopefully the Chiefs continue to stay aggressive.RGIII is right where he was ranked at midseason. After last year's wild ride, watching him now is a little depressing. I expected the Redskins' offense to improve as the season wore on, but it hasn't happened. ... Palmer moves up a tier (six spots) after a nice stretch of outings overall. The Philly game, however, was instructive. Even in a contest where Palmer completed a lot of tough throws, he left a ton of yards on the field and made some killer turnovers. ... Glennon has been a pleasant surprise. I'm curious to see how he'll bounce back from his first terrible outing in Carolina.Five weeks ago, I ranked Dalton at No. 15 and wondered when the other shoe would drop. He's been terrible since. Three years into his career, the Bengals still can't be sure whether Dalton is "The Answer." His game against San Diego was a microcosm of his career. He had a miserable first half against one of the worst defenses in football. He followed that up with a handful of crucial throws after halftime to pull off a big road win. Then again, the defense and running game led the way. This has been a wildly up-and-down season, which is why the "After Dalton" scale remains intact. After Dalton24. Matt McGloin 25. Case Keenum 26. Christian Ponder27. Ryan Fitzpatrick28. Chad Henne 29. Kellen Clemens30. EJ Manuel31. Browns quarterback32. Geno SmithIt's hard not to love what McGloin has shown thus far. He is not afraid to make tough throws and he makes quick decisions. It's wildly early, but he has a chance to stick around. ... Keenum also displayed laudable aggressiveness, which caused Chris Wesseling to temporarily fall in love. But the Texans' second-year pro struggles to put together complete games and struggles with blitzes more. ... Ponder jumps three spots after an improved stretch of play. He makes a handful of impressive throws every week, but the game still seems to move too fast for him. In his third season, there's a season that "he is what he is."Smith plummeted seven spots after four miserable games. He has not been put in a fair situation, but he's not ready either. ... Clemens has been a little better than expected as the Rams starter. Fitzpatrick is exactly as expected: a solid backup quarterback with a touch of Fitzmagic.The next complete rankings will come at the end of the season. Thanks for reading.The latest "Around The League Podcast" recapped every Week 13 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Falcon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bit of an overreaction with Russel up there with those guys. I do like him a lot though. But those other guys are all ring holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_own_nfc_south Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 it changes week to week and month to month... Writer mentions that Panther Offense is worse than before but they are still winning. So how do you justify Cam Newton in Top 10( just because he can run).. c'mon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Russel Wilsons ranking is comical. Must be nice to be a bus driver on a great team. Maybe he can ride it out the way Joe Flacco did his SB Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 To not put Tom Brady in the top class is just.....absolutely stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Falcon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd put Ryan between mcgloin and keenumWas really thinking you'd say like top 5 or something. I'm a little shocked I must say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd put Ryan between mcgloin and keenumSeems a little high for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I won't rank Ryan lower than he deserves simply because I believe he's a noodle arm coward. If there's a qb worse than him I'm willing to admit it. I try to be as fair and objective as possible.Yea because clearly Carson Palmer, Alex Smith, Mike Glennon and and RGKnee are better than Ryan.LOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflight Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Russel Wilsons ranking is comical. Must be nice to be a bus driver on a great team. Maybe he can ride it out the way Joe Flacco did his SB Ring.Didn't watch the game on Monday night huh? Russell Wilson was awesome in that game. They didn't win 10-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Russel Wilsons ranking is comical. Must be nice to be a bus driver on a great team. Maybe he can ride it out the way Joe Flacco did his SB Ring.While I don't think Wilson should be that high, he is quite good and loads better than Flacco. They don't ask him to do much, but he's really really good and will show it more as they take off the training wheels more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I won't rank Ryan lower than he deserves simply because I believe he's a noodle arm coward. If there's a qb worse than him I'm willing to admit it. I try to be as fair and objective as possible.Well, that's refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 F*** you OP, for tricking me into looking at any of that D*%chenozzle, Rosenthal's sh*tty articles, not to mention his, ever so punchable, face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Matt Ryan is ranked too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yea because clearly Carson Palmer, Alex Smith, Mike Glennon and and RGKnee are better than Ryan.LOLOLOLOLTHIS year I would put Palmer and Glennon above Ryan. Smith in a tie with Ryan, and RG3 below Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 THIS year I would put Palmer and Glennon above Ryan. Smith in a tie with Ryan, and RG3 below Ryan.Based off of what...This should be interesting.Can't wait to hear how you try to sugarcoat how great Carson Palmer is or the almighty Glennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Based off of what...This should be interesting.Can't wait to hear how you try to sugarcoat how great Carson Palmer is or the almighty Glennon.Based on stats and wins.In all honesty, I should probably rank Alex Smith higher than Matt Ryan. His team does have 9 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriMeTiiMe Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Based on stats and wins.In all honesty, I should probably rank Alex Smith higher than Matt Ryan. His team does have 9 wins.Back to the old argument. I guess Trent Dilfer is better than Mario. He has a SB Ring.I can tell you have never played a down of football in your life. Its a team game. End of story. Edited December 4, 2013 by PriMeTiiMe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Bit of an overreaction with Russel up there with those guys. I do like him a lot though. But those other guys are all ring holders.Stop with giving bonus points to players that have won a ring. A ring has nothing to do with how a player is playing. In other words, you can't discount what Russel has done just because he isn't a superbowl winning QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north falcon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Gregg Rosenthal is literally the dumbest writer on the planet. Not just because of this article. Everything he writes is ********. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Rofl you can tell coming into the thread that the columnist has some kind of retardation by looking at his eyes. Rivers @2, wilson @4? Ok! Edited December 4, 2013 by osiruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 THIS year I would put Palmer and Glennon above Ryan. Smith in a tie with Ryan, and RG3 below Ryan.Lol aren't you special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMVP Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Brady is still a top 2 QB in this league.Some writers/fans get too enamoured too quickly when a QB has early success...RG3 last year anyone?I do like where Foles was placed. His stats rank at the very top, but that doesn't make him a top 5 QB....yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdonaWire88 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 F*** you OP, for tricking me into looking at any of that D*%chenozzle, Rosenthal's sh*tty articles, not to mention his, ever so punchable, face. No chit LMFAO, just look at his pic LOL tells you everything you really need to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawse Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 "Bears Quarterback" Lol. McCown is a beast, though. 3 weeks in a row for me as a starter in fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Gregg Rosenthal is literally the dumbest writer on the planet. Not just because of this article. Everything he writes is retarded.Totally with you on this. The only ones who can rival him are Dave Dameshek and Adam Rank. Their dumb azz articles on whos dressed best and other estrogen filled crap like that make me despise them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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