DurtyBurdz155 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Some of you don't know how bad this O-line is and how much the Qb is affected. I'm not saying the Line is the reason Ryan has all the interceptions he has, but if you only had 3 seconds to throw the ball, What would you do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Wall Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Trust my pre snap read and throw to where the WR should be and hope I read it right. As a QB myself it would be hard to play behind this Oline because the push is coming up the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalconian Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Well, my first thought is to use quick routes like slants to try to find an open receiver, but with no deep threat and no running game opposing teams are taking the short to intermediate routes across the middle away. As a result, the barrage of interceptions.The truth is the falcons gambled on the oline, and they lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouDog. Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The first thread all day that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJeff1975 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 If I won a contest where I all I had to do was complete one pass behind this oline vs a JV high school team & I would win a million bucks.....I think I would say "No thanks, I value my health too much" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 While the line is god awful, the line definitely isn't the reason for all of Ryans interceptions. The vast majority of his picks are poor throws/bad decisions by him. As far as the interceptions, I can't recall many that came from actually serious pressure. But i can recall several ******** throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 While the line is god awful, the line definitely isn't the reason for all of Ryans interceptions. The vast majority of his picks are poor throws/bad decisions by him. As far as the interceptions, I can't recall many that came from actually serious pressure. But i can recall several ******** throws.Awesome post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalconian Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 While the line is god awful, the line definitely isn't the reason for all of Ryans interceptions. The vast majority of his picks are poor throws/bad decisions by him. As far as the interceptions, I can't recall many that came from actually serious pressure. But i can recall several ******** throws.Interesting, I can think of several. Seems like he is throwing the ball with multiple defenders around him every play. With that being said, he has made poor decisions, but there have been times where the team is behind and he is trying to put the team on his back and will them to score. As I've said in other threads, this isn't a quarterback problem it is an oline problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Interesting, I can think of several. Seems like he is throwing the ball with multiple defenders around him every play. With that being said, he has made poor decisions, but there have been times where the team is behind and he is trying to put the team on his back and will them to score. As I've said in other threads, this isn't a quarterback problem it is an oline problem.Also seems like he is throwing the ball to another player with multiple defenders around them. I can't count how many times i've seen him throw into double/triple coverage to Tony.I'm not a Ryan hater at all. I am 10000% confident he will bring us a SB win and have no regrets at all about signing him to the big contract. But he has made a lot of uncharacteristic throws this year. I don't expect it to continue this year and i think next year it will be a complete 180. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The pick-six in Tampa was a result of his throwing arm being hit as he was throwing...And Matt would LIKE to get 3 seconds.... more like about 2 on his usual drop back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Makes sense. Of course it's not always on the OLine but my goodness for all the idiots who can't seem to comprehend how much fire Ryan takes immediately after the ball is snapped, those people should try what he has to deal with.It's simple. I mean if you woke up 7 minutes before you had to be at work and still had to get ready (a.k.a not have as much time) and get out the door then don't you think that maybe, just maybe, you'd most likely forget to do something/bring something with you/not be at your best that day because you were rushed and didn't have as much time to get organized?!I'm not blaming it all on the offensive line but my gosh there's too many morons who cannot see how big of a problem the offensive line is when it comes to overall play design/execution/QB performance. Perhaps these are the people who actually "crumble under pressure" because of one darn-awful season. Then here comes the typical "but but but Aaron Rodgers and his offensive line blah blah blah" etc. Well that's them and not us. Football starts up front in the trenches. We don't have that. Period. Quit thinking that Matt Ryan is supposed to slow everything down in Matrix mode and have eagle eye all the time. He's human and has to do what he can do based on the protection and amount of time that he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSouthGeorgia Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 ask yourself - would you trust this line to protect you from a 300 pound monster ?? Its like russian roulette - no one on the line is consistant enough for him to fell protected - I have a feeling hes gonna possibly restructure after this year if he wants to live out his contract..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Whoa whoa, logic lives? I thought we had to burn Ryan at the stake and raze Flowery Branch to become a good team again? /purp But seriously props for not wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealBird! Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Some of you don't know how bad this O-line is and how much the Qb is affected. I'm not saying the Line is the reason Ryan has all the interceptions he has, but if you only had 3 seconds to throw the ball, What would you do??Agreed because it's a simple concept to understand. Those who know football know the OL is the real problem. The village idiots and realists on here don't get it. That line is so bad that Davis didn't last two drives...against mostly Tampa backups....in prevent defense! Don't worry about it...half of them claim to be fans but they're pot-stirrers/attention whores. They just want a reaction to whatever they type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 While the line is god awful, the line definitely isn't the reason for all of Ryans interceptions. The vast majority of his picks are poor throws/bad decisions by him. As far as the interceptions, I can't recall many that came from actually serious pressure. But i can recall several ******** throws.^^^ Right on the money with this post. Matt is feeling the mental strain of too much pressure coming at him too often, and it's hurting his decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalconian Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 While the line is god awful, the line definitely isn't the reason for all of Ryans interceptions. The vast majority of his picks are poor throws/bad decisions by him. As far as the interceptions, I can't recall many that came from actually serious pressure. But i can recall several ******** throws.The line may not be directly responsible for every interception, but Iwould suggest it is for most of them. The fact is Matt has been hit numerous times and had to throw the ball while defenders are hanging on him other times. Any quarterback who is under the kind of pressure our qb is develops a case of happy feet and that can lead to interceptions even when the pass rush didn't make it. At the end of the day, we are a one dimensional offense who can't protect the quarterback. Given that, no qb can succeed nor can the coach fix it. This is a personnel problem. While I like TD and what he has done, he made some decisions which haven't worked out on the oline this year. Combine that fact with a rash of injuries that has sapped all momentum from this team, and you're looking forward to that which cures all... The draft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 "Ryan hit as he throws" has to be the most said phrase by NFL commentators this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The first thread all day season that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lubba Lubba© Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 "Ryan hit as he throws" has to be the most said phrase by NFL commentators this year.Which is funny, because when I watch Saints game (living behind enemy lines) all I hear is "Brees with all kinds of time". When he lofted a pick in the SF game the other day, "Brees with all kinds of time" preceded it. But no one will ever bring that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Well, my first thought is to use quick routes like slants to try to find an open receiver, but with no deep threat and no running game opposing teams are taking the short to intermediate routes across the middle away. As a result, the barrage of interceptions.The truth is the falcons gambled on the oline, and they lost.then proceed to be blamed by the boards for throwing 3-7 yard dinks and dunks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The line may not be directly responsible for every interception, but Iwould suggest it is for most of them. The fact is Matt has been hit numerous times and had to throw the ball while defenders are hanging on him other times. Any quarterback who is under the kind of pressure our qb is develops a case of happy feet and that can lead to interceptions even when the pass rush didn't make it. At the end of the day, we are a one dimensional offense who can't protect the quarterback. Given that, no qb can succeed nor can the coach fix it. This is a personnel problem. While I like TD and what he has done, he made some decisions which haven't worked out on the oline this year. Combine that fact with a rash of injuries that has sapped all momentum from this team, and you're looking forward to that which cures all... The draft!I agree with some of this, but i don't know if i would even go as far to say it is responsible for most. I get what you are saying about directly and indirectly responsible, but Ryan has had A LOT of inaccurate throws. Throws that he does not have to make because of the line. As a whole yeah the O line is complete trash and ultimately has a big effect on how Ryan throws, but he has made a lot of bad throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFalconian Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I agree with some of this, but i don't know if i would even go as far to say it is responsible for most. I get what you are saying about directly and indirectly responsible, but Ryan has had A LOT of inaccurate throws. Throws that he does not have to make because of the line. As a whole yeah the O line is complete trash and ultimately has a big effect on how Ryan throws, but he has made a lot of bad throws.keep in mind that when the qb cannot step into the throw, he will be inaccurate. Accuracy is all about mechanics. However, I would agree there have been poor decisions but let's be fair with no ability to stretch the field the opposing defense is playing the short to intermediate throws. This mean one on one on the outside and a flood of defenders between the numbers playing a variety of coverages. Simply said all of the options Ryan has are high risk. This isn't meant to be an excuse for poor decisions but let's keep in mind this isn't last years offense where you have two playmaking wide receivers stretching the field and Tony is constantly beating one on one coverage. We are talking about an offense where the QB is under fire almost every throw, supported by no running game, throwing it to a small portion of the field to WRs who shouldn't be confused with all-pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirdieBirdieIndie Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I miss Julio............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller2Rison Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 s.o.s. for anyone blaming Ryan and not understanding the game as a player, i explained what Ryan is going through as a player and not as a fan in this post here. just read the original post and not the 7 page luck vs ryan debate response.http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3992225-i-feel-matt-ryans-pain/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*NiteFalcon* Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I certainly do not blame Ryan at all for his recent struggles. Its only a matter of time before someone plays scared with his line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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