cnasty 2,185 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 How many times have we heard that our players get cross trained at their positions? Particularly the OL (and a bit at DL). Maybe it's time to change that school of thought since it has seemed to contribute absolutely nothing to the team getting better up front on both sides of the ball.Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 13,298 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We need to get a real NFL O-line coach in here because whatever college-style technique Pat Hill is teaching isn't working. We need to get another d-line coach in here, too. Hamilton should have been let go 3 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vabchbirdlover 1,526 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We need to get a real NFL O-line coach in here because whatever college-style technique Pat Hill is teaching isn't working. We need to get another d-line coach in here, too. Hamilton should have been let go 3 years ago.We had one, but unfortunely, he was fired, bring back P. Boudreaux Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trashmetalx 334 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I know each position is different, but I'm not sure I agree that the cross training is the big issue. Lynch was praising some of the Seahawks guys for being able switch from tackle to guard. It's just coaching and conditioning all around. Our guys are weak and have bad technique. Plain and simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,634 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Guys we have almost two months to go......the losses are going to be piling up - pace yourselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atlbaby 2,627 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We had one, but unfortunely, he was fired, bring back P. BoudreauxYep they blamed the coach and not the players. Get the coach some decent talent to work with. Baker played well to get paid. Back to his old self again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 13,298 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 We had one, but unfortunely, he was fired, bring back P. BoudreauxEven our old o-line coach Tom Cable coached a great game against our d-line yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AREA 51 1,048 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I agree with that, but the Oline needs replacements rather than coaching at this point, or they need to eat their Wheaties. They are weak.I would like to see a new philosophy and coach with the Falcons' receivers. If I took anything from yesterdays game, it was once again watching physical receivers get position to get the ball despite being covered. Our receivers do not do this, including starters. Unless they are wide open, Ryan will not throw the ball, which limits attempts to our star receivers.The Falcons receivers either need to be coached to be more physical or taught how to get position. Matt Ryan probably envys how Seattle's receivers caught the ball despite being covered. Gonzalez is the only one who can do such. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 13,298 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Guys we have almost two months to go......the losses are going to be piling up - pace yourselves You really don't have to pace yourself since, like our players, I've already given up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psychic Gibbon 46,836 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 How many times have we heard that our players get cross trained at their positions? Particularly the OL (and a bit at DL). Maybe it's time to change that school of thought since it has seemed to contribute absolutely nothing to the team getting better up front on both sides of the ball.Thoughts?This along with having O-linemen who are best suited for a zone blocking scheme attempt a power man blocking scheme. I doubt this coaching staff has any idea what they're doing and it's becoming abundantly clear with the lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 13,298 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Lack of talentKonz - weak C that put up a joke of reps on bench .Holmes was a project that wasn't suppose to be drafted so earlyBaker - injury prone LTReynolds - garbagejust trash on the line . You can't expect the best Oline coach in league to fix this messA good o-line coach could recognize talent and tell Dimitroff who to draft or who to bring in to get this o-line right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,634 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Lack of talentKonz - weak C that put up a joke of reps on bench .Holmes was a project that wasn't suppose to be drafted so earlyBaker - injury prone LTReynolds - garbagejust trash on the line . You can't expect the best Oline coach in league to fix this messyou forgot to mention the overrated Blalock who is two years into a 6 year, $38 million contract. It would cost the Falcons $7million on the cap to cut him in 2014/2015. He has the 4th highest salary and he's at best an average player - and average might be generous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fire mike smith 117 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 every coach on this team is terrible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psychic Gibbon 46,836 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Lack of talentKonz - weak C that put up a joke of reps on bench .Holmes was a project that wasn't suppose to be drafted so earlyBaker - injury prone LTReynolds - garbagejust trash on the line . You can't expect the best Oline coach in league to fix this messSince the change with OC and O-line coach they have brought in two O-linemen: Konz and Holmes. Both of their strengths are good movement to kick out and block in space and swift feet which means they're ideal for zone blocking schemes. However, they're being asked to perform in a power man blocking scheme which is a horrible fit for them. Judging by how idiotic this coaching staff is I would be willing to bet Koetter asked for players like those two entirely for the movement skills so they could block on screens while ignoring everything else. What makes it worse is that Hill has his head up his *** and seems utterly incapable of teaching the O-line good technique and it's blatantly obvious in those two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Statick 13,298 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 you forgot to mention the overrated Blalock who is two years into a 6 year, $38 million contract. It would cost the Falcons $7million on the cap to cut him in 2014/2015. He has the 4th highest salary and he's at best an average player - and average might be generous.I disagree. Blalock is the best player on the line. That's not saying a lot, but he's not the problem when he's sandwiched between broke-back Baker and a first year center. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cnasty 2,185 Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 I obviously don't know how to fix the problem, exactly, outside of a complete overhaul, which is likely to not happen. Maybe we need to move to a zone scheme as mentioned above. Maybe the only fix is to blow it up and start over completely. **** I really don't know the answer, it just seems like the cross training isn't doing much for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bundini Brown 184 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I read an article on the bleacher report app that said the same thing. Said TD needs to stop worrying about "cross training" and make sure he gets a guy that's good at his natural position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Road Warrior 638 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 If you were to poll fans of all 32 teams, probably 30 of them would say their offensive line is the weakest point. The Falcons have one of the worst for sure but even with the OL they have the offense would still put up points if the receivers were healthy. TD has so many holes to fill in the team that he ignored the offensive line to try to patch together some sort of defense. Problem is he is terrible at finding DL talent. He clearly is more apt at picking secondary talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fire mike smith 117 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 why do we need the elite receivers to score points? rodgers was turning no names into stars before he was injured. matt ryan has an elite salary where is the elite play? why is he matty ice what has he clutched? mr. 2 points has a salary thats hamstrung the team Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,970 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I disagree. Blalock is the best player on the line. That's not saying a lot, but he's not the problem when he's sandwiched between broke-back Baker and a first year center.He'd be a backup on other teams... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanForLife 2,097 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Unfortunately, when you look as bad as we do right now, it appears everything is broken. So there is a tendency for our fanbase (me included) to see problems in every area.However, the lack of our running game seems to be a very good indicator that the O-line is a good place to focus on improvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eye of the Falcon 134 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Here is an idea to get the Falcons back on the SB TRACT --- (1 New defensive and offensive coordinators. Lots of midnight oil to select the best available. (2 Give above a majority of the say in selecting the position coaches to work under them. (3 Draft LT first round, NT second round, safety to replace DeCoud in third round, LB to compete to start or good backup at a position where we are thin. Then draft for depth. (4 Free agent RG. ( Cut 'dead wood' including players on the team for 2 or 3 years but, for what ever reason, are not seeing the field. Everybody knows who they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawg4545 7 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 unless You have the best o line in football that can give Ryan 8 seconds to make up his mind and throw the ball more than 3 yards in the air. We will always suck as long as he is qb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigDaddyFalcon21 176 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I disagree. Blalock is the best player on the line. That's not saying a lot, but he's not the problem when he's sandwiched between broke-back Baker and a first year center.Hahahahaha Broke-back Baker....I like that one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KGrillz 438 Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 (edited) Falcons need some big, strong physical guys. Guys that they do a ton of bench presses at the combine. I am not sure how many reps Konz did, but the Falcons need guys that are physical.TD needs to focus even more on building up the trenches or else the Falcons will never beat the Saints or Panthers.Falcons also need to do a better job drafting for depth. Edited November 11, 2013 by KGrillz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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