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It's very relevant. If TD had inherited one of the better lines in the NFL, the low level of investment he has made in the OL might have been warranted. Inheriting what he did, this OL needed major rebuilding and investment from day 1 and in 6 years it still hasn't had it.

In his first 4 years, TD used one first rounder, a very late (compensatory) 3rd and one 4th rounder on the OL, whilst making no significant OL signings. That was nowhere near enough in the circumstances and is why we are so poor today. The additions of Holmes and Konz in 2012 were a start, but by that stage they were too little and definitely too late.

How so? Dahl and Clabo at one time were playing great. We got old and injured. McClure and Clabo left, Johnson broke leg and then baker can't stay healthy

Baker was a first, Blalock and Konz 2nd rounders , Holmes 3rd and Johnson 3rd. Yes I know McKay drafted Blalock but he was a2nd year player when TD took over.

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Ok G-Dawg,, I am going to shew the carp out of your Topic.

With Pat Hill gone, we then shift Konz back to RG,,,,,,,

After we draft DT and LB in Rounds 1&2 we then get the top ranked

center in the 3rd. You just fixed 2 positions with One Pick.

Come December we can commence our run on the Draft, and

looks like you and I will be going at it like junk yard dawgs wink.png

I could be wrong, but it's almost like Konz is playing in the wrong scheme and he just doesn't have the strength to be in the one we run, whether it be OG or OC

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The issue is not related to how many offensive linemen were drafted. I think the issue relies on how many quality offensive linemen were drafted. So far I think TD gets an F for his efforts to build a solid Offensive line. You can't say he's not trying. He's simply failing at it. In years past the Falcons would take linemen in the late rounds because we ran a zone blocking scheme. I think under the current group of linemen, going back to the zone scheme makes more sense. We can't base (man) block with this group. Zone running scheme with Rogers is a perfect fit for this group. Slide protection in the pass game will help sore up some of the issues we have as well. Slide protection means we always need a back in location to help. These simple concepts should help the Falcons up front.

Now will Dirk and company make the necessary changes?

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I've mentioned this in many threads if we draft a guy at a certain spot why in gods name are we playing him in another Johnson Holmes Reynolds Hawley were all drafted as specific position players out of college but some reason or another we have asked them to play another position at the next level.To me this is the most perplexing thing.

We are asking guys who have played a certain spot there whole college careers to suddenly change while the quality of the guy across from him has increased 10 fold to me this is where I see is a huge issue.

I agree, at the start of the season we had a RT playing RG/ RG playing RT/ Johnson was an all-American guard at Alabama why put him at tackle

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It's very relevant. If TD had inherited one of the better lines in the NFL, the low level of investment he has made in the OL might have been warranted. Inheriting what he did, this OL needed major rebuilding and investment from day 1 and in 6 years it still hasn't had it.

In his first 4 years, TD used one first rounder, a very late (compensatory) 3rd and one 4th rounder on the OL, whilst making no significant OL signings. That was nowhere near enough in the circumstances and is why we are so poor today. The additions of Holmes and Konz in 2012 were a start, but by that stage they were too little and definitely too late.

you do realize most offensive linemen have contracts of 4 years or shorter, right? they don't sign 10 year contracts.

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How so? Dahl and Clabo at one time were playing great. We got old and injured. McClure and Clabo left, Johnson broke leg and then baker can't stay healthy

Baker was a first, Blalock and Konz 2nd rounders , Holmes 3rd and Johnson 3rd. Yes I know McKay drafted Blalock but he was a2nd year player when TD took over.

slow your roll on Dahl/Clabo - they were great run blockers that struggled in pass protection. Because they were nasty and great run blockers everybody forgets the rest - Matt Ryan did not get sacked a lot because he was getting the ball out in 2 seconds.

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slow your roll on Dahl/Clabo - they were great run blockers that struggled in pass protection. Because they were nasty and great run blockers everybody forgets the rest - Matt Ryan did not get sacked a lot because he was getting the ball out in 2 seconds.

Fair enough. But the were serviceable. Point is their was a quick and steep decline in our offensive line.

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slow your roll on Dahl/Clabo - they were great run blockers that struggled in pass protection. Because they were nasty and great run blockers everybody forgets the rest - Matt Ryan did not get sacked a lot because he was getting the ball out in 2 seconds.

You can open up an offense with a run game...can't open up an offense without an offensive line

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You can open up an offense with a run game...can't open up an offense without an offensive line

what do you want? Clabo sucks now as well and they are not erecting statues of Dahl in St. Louis either....YES, we need offensive line but those specific guys are not the answer in 2013 - even if we still had them.

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have you guys forgot how bad Konz was at RG last year? he was not strong enough - that is why we all were excited to see what he could do at center with the thought being that Konz was not strong enough to play RG but maybe he would be at Center since he had good size and strength and being bigger than McClure.

Given Konz' age & experience, I'm not ready to call him a bust. I think we need to address RG and LT (and shift Baker to RT). If we can upgrade both of those positions successfully this offseason, then let's see where we are on the OL. I'm thinking draft one and get one in FA. If those two positions are fixed, hopefully, we'd see the better OLmen not covering for breakdowns as often, and they'd look better too.

I'd love to be able to scrap it all at once and simply start over, but it's not realistic. I think upgrading 2 OL positions is realistic, and could have a huge effect. Getting rid of Konz, and Baker is not going to happen in the next 2 years, and I don't think Blalock is a problem when he has players with him, and he's been healthy, and only 29.

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Dimitroff drafting the offensive line:

1st rd - Sam Baker, LT - USC (2008)

2nd rd - Peter Konz, C - Wisconsin (2012)

3rd rd - Mike Johnson, RT/RG - Alabama (2010)

3rd rd - Lamar Holmes, RT/LT - Southern Miss. (2012)

4th rd - Joe Hawley, C - Nevada (2010)

6th rd - Garrett Reynolds, RG - North Carolina (2009)

2nd rd - Justin Blaylock, LG - Texas (2007 by McKay)

I submit to you that most other NFL teams, if you looked at their starting offensive lines - would have them drafted in similiar rounds as what the Falcons have done above. The only team(off top of my head) that has invested more than 2 first rounders on offensive lin is the SF Niners.

  • The problem is not enough draft picks an high picks on the offensive line.
  • The problem is Dimitroff/Falcons scouts would not know a good offensive lineman if he/they saw them.

I agree, either that or our line coaches can't coach. Don't know which answer is right.

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The issue is not related to how many offensive linemen were drafted. I think the issue relies on how many quality offensive linemen were drafted. So far I think TD gets an F for his efforts to build a solid Offensive line. You can't say he's not trying. He's simply failing at it. In years past the Falcons would take linemen in the late rounds because we ran a zone blocking scheme. I think under the current group of linemen, going back to the zone scheme makes more sense. We can't base (man) block with this group. Zone running scheme with Rogers is a perfect fit for this group. Slide protection in the pass game will help sore up some of the issues we have as well. Slide protection means we always need a back in location to help. These simple concepts should help the Falcons up front.

Now will Dirk and company make the necessary changes?Bingo

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I give him credit for Asante. But resigning Reynolds and signing Dunta were horrible. Not to mention resigning Baker.

As horrible as they may be I don't think he had options with regards to Baker & Reynolds I believe he was trying to keep a unit together it is just unfortunate that they have'nt gelled and having the disruption with Johnson gone in pre season and Baker getting hurt Konz's inexperience has only magnified this.Before you go there yes Pat Hill must come under the microscope aswell.

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Given Konz' age & experience, I'm not ready to call him a bust. I think we need to address RG and LT (and shift Baker to RT). If we can upgrade both of those positions successfully this offseason, then let's see where we are on the OL. I'm thinking draft one and get one in FA. If those two positions are fixed, hopefully, we'd see the better OLmen not covering for breakdowns as often, and they'd look better too.

I'd love to be able to scrap it all at once and simply start over, but it's not realistic. I think upgrading 2 OL positions is realistic, and could have a huge effect. Getting rid of Konz, and Baker is not going to happen in the next 2 years, and I don't think Blalock is a problem when he has players with him, and he's been healthy, and only 29.

Rugger I know what you are saying here but why would we move Baker to RT the guy is a specialist LT we would be asking him to do something he hasn't done his whole career and I'm sorry to push rewind here but I believe strongly that this whole cross training of guys is an issue.

You have a look out of the guys we have drafted Holmes LT Johnson RG Reynolds RT Hawley C all these guys were drafted in a certain spot now we are asking them to play at the next level in positions they probably very rarely played at college against talent that is just alot better and hence why we are moaning how these guys are struggling and are inconsistent,I give you the above.

The whole cross training thing stinks to high heaven I get you need at least 1 or 2 swing guys along the line but we seem to be using every man and his dog instead of letting these guys settle in there rightful spots letting them get that down then maybe thinking about cross training.

Agree with you though in regards to Konz C is the key spot and he is going through some growing pains at the moment.Mind you the same people that bag Konz were bagging Mclure last year and look now how many people would want Mclure back right now I tell you what I'd have him back in a heart beat.

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