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Just curious which game(s) are you referring to because I don't get that unless he is truly getting pressured, which all QB do. Case and point Manning against Jags was panicking.

Every game he has ever played. That's not true. Most QB's don't panic like he does. Only other QB that's as bad with pressure as Carr was Gabbert.

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His skill set, accurate with his throws, doesn't make mental mistakes can extend plays with his leg if a play breaks down and he has a big arm. This all while not having much talent at the skill positions.

Explain his skill set.

I think his ball placement needs a lot of work.

I've seen him make a ton of bad throws/mental mistakes.

I've never seen him make plays with his legs outside the pocket. In the pocket he has decent mobility but doesn't keep his eyes downfield.

I do like his arm. I like his velocity especially.

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Explain his skill set.

I think his ball placement needs a lot of work.

I've seen him make a ton of bad throws/mental mistakes.

I've never seen him make plays with his legs outside the pocket. In the pocket he has decent mobility but doesn't keep his eyes downfield.

I do like his arm. I like his velocity especially.

Okay well not sure if it is worth it to me to break plays in which I see it different, we just have to disagree on this one.

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For those of you who think Clowney is not worth trading up for please watch the Tennessee game. He went against probably the best oline in the nation, with 3-4 legitimate nfl prospects a potential 1st rounder on Richards and showed out!!!

I would not be against a Jones type trade if that is what it takes to get him here.

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Let me start off by saying I agree with most of your offseason moves. Not to fond of the Arthur Jones signing. I would prefer the Falcons pursue Greg Hardy. So start with your offseason moves.

Players not resigned/cut/retired

WR Kevin Cone

OL Mike Johnson

CB Dominique Franks

TE Tommy Gallarda

DT Peria Jerry

DE Cliff Matthews (Cut saving $646K)

OG Jacques McClendon

FS Shann Schillinger

DT Jonathan Babineaux

TE Chase Coffman

CB Asante Samuels (Cut saving $5.25 Million)

OLB Stephen Nicholas (Cut saving $2.00 Million)

RB Antone Smith (Cut saving $730K)

FB Bradie Ewing (Cut saving $527K)

Players resigned/restructured

DT Corey Peters

CB Robert McClain

LB Jamar Chaney

OT Jeremy Trueblood

OC/OG Joe Hawley

WR Drew Davis

WR Brian Robiskie

Sign Greg Hardy, DE, Carolina Panthers for 3 yrs at $18,000,000, with a $7,500,000 signing bonus, and base salaries of $2,500,000, $3,250,000, and $4,750,000. This deal is similar to the deal that Cliff Avril signed with Seattle.

http://www.nfl.com/player/greghardy/496792/profile

http://youtu.be/b4GdZzKY4_0

1st Round

Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1893144/cyrus-kouandjio

2nd Round

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona St

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664702/will-sutton

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/28/1022985/index.html

3rd Round

DaQuan Jones, DT Penn St

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=109171&draftyear=2014&genpos=DT

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/539/1033584/index.html

4th Round

JuWaun James, OT, Tennessee

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737346/jawuan-james

5th Round

Max Bullough, MLB, Michigan St

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737264/max-bullough

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/416/1032681/index.html

6th Round

Dri Archer, KR/WR, Kent St

http://youtu.be/8dpvSqIAge4

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/331/1024397/index.html

7th Round

Rajion Neal, RB, Tennessee

http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/694/1034099/index.html

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Let me start off by saying I agree with most of your offseason moves. Not to fond of the Arthur Jones signing. I would prefer the Falcons pursue Greg Hardy. So start with your offseason moves.

Players not resigned/cut/retired

WR Kevin Cone

OL Mike Johnson

CB Dominique Franks

TE Tommy Gallarda

DT Peria Jerry

DE Cliff Matthews (Cut saving $646K)

OG Jacques McClendon

FS Shann Schillinger

DT Jonathan Babineaux

TE Chase Coffman

CB Asante Samuels (Cut saving $5.25 Million)

OLB Stephen Nicholas (Cut saving $2.00 Million)

RB Antone Smith (Cut saving $730K)

FB Bradie Ewing (Cut saving $527K)

Players resigned/restructured

DT Corey Peters

CB Robert McClain

LB Jamar Chaney

OT Jeremy Trueblood

OC/OG Joe Hawley

WR Drew Davis

WR Brian Robiskie

Sign Greg Hardy, DE, Carolina Panthers for 3 yrs at $18,000,000, with a $7,500,000 signing bonus, and base salaries of $2,500,000, $3,250,000, and $4,750,000. This deal is similar to the deal that Cliff Avril signed with Seattle.

http://www.nfl.com/p.../496792/profile

1st Round

Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama

http://www.cbssports...cyrus-kouandjio

2nd Round

Will Sutton, DT, Arizona St

http://www.cbssports...702/will-sutton

http://www.cfbstats....2985/index.html

3rd Round

DaQuan Jones, DT Penn St

http://www.nfldrafts...=2014&genpos=DT

http://www.cfbstats....3584/index.html

4th Round

JuWaun James, OT, Tennessee

http://www.cbssports...46/jawuan-james

5th Round

Max Bullough, MLB, Michigan St

http://www.cbssports...64/max-bullough

http://www.cfbstats....2681/index.html

6th Round

Dri Archer, KR/WR, Kent St

http://www.cfbstats....4397/index.html

7th Round

Rajion Neal, RB, Tennessee

http://www.cfbstats....4099/index.html

A couple of things I would like to comment on is, I think Greg Hardy would command a much large contract. Not to mention I seriously doubt we will go down that avenue of signing a big FA DE quite so soon after the Ray Edwards fiasco. The only reason that Avril go the contract he receive is because he priced himself out of the market early on. He was looking for an annual payout of $10+ million per year and once the market dried up he had no choice but to sign with Seattle.

Not sure that if I value your first 5 pick as much as you do.

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1. It's SAMUEL, no S on the end

2. I don't disagree with most of your cuts/releases

3. Antone Smith isn't going anywhere, we just re-signed him to a 2 year deal because of his ST contributions

4. No thanks to Kouandjio, I'd rather have Lewan or Matthews in the 1st or Hurst in the 2nd

5. It's too damn early to be mocking.

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1. It's SAMUEL, no S on the end

2. I don't disagree with most of your cuts/releases

3. Antone Smith isn't going anywhere, we just re-signed him to a 2 year deal because of his ST contributions

4. No thanks to Kouandjio, I'd rather have Lewan or Matthews in the 1st or Hurst in the 2nd

5. It's too **** early to be mocking.

For once we finally agree! I'm not really high on this tackle class this year.

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Probably a little bit of both. Let's look at it for this perspective. Last's year draft had 3 of the top four pick were projected LT all of which are better that the three top OT prospects this year except maybe Matthews. None 2013 has started at LT this year, if you look a little deeper the only stud 1st round LT since 2010 has been Kalil and maybe Castonzo. Rookie LT are much more of a risk than QB's, that's why it would be are for me to mock a OT n the first round. Not to mention I think our oline is getting better each week.

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LOL for one game vs an NFL pass rusher?

He just isn't that good in my eyes. He's a GREAT run blocker, and he'll probably be an awesome GUARD in the NFL, but I don't trust Alabama OLinemen. When your gameplan is to run the ball until you can't run anymore, then run it a few more times, then throw a quick pass or two, then run it again, defenses aren't teeing off on you like they do us. Alabama runs a 45/55 run/pass ratio. Compare that to our 68/32 ratio. And if all it takes is for one guy to be like "you know what? Screw the run, I'm pass rushing today" and he gets three sacks on you, two on Kouandjio, I can't trust it.

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In what way? Just by running most of the time?

Everybody on that line is a good run blocker, and when you've got a bunch of good run blockers and you run the ball 55% of the time, defenses hesitate to pass rush because they're trying to maintain gap integrity. It makes pass blocking easier, and I've been screaming for Atlanta to run more because of it, but we don't, so we need genuinely good pass blockers. Last year, we KNEW Larry Warford was an AMAZING pass blocker, and yet he fell all the way into the 3rd round. He's a top 5 NFL guard right now. Dude just held Geno Atkins to 0 sacks. We KNEW how good he was, but because the talking heads said "no, Chance Warmack and these other guys are better", we just kept on mocking him in the late 2nd because why not? Chance Warmack has given up 4 sacks already and isn't doing jack squat to help Tennessee's putrid run game. I want to be the guy who stood by Warford as a bonafied 1st round talent rather than the guy who secretly thought that while mocking him in the 2nd. To me, Kouandjio just isn't that great of a talent. He's like the LT version of Menelik Watson, who I absolutely didn't buy into last draft season.

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