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A.J. Neibel was promoted to Head Strength & Conditioning Coach on January 30, 2013. He spent the previous two seasons the Falcons as a Strength and Conditioning Assistant. Neibel came to the Falcons after serving as a Strength and Conditioning/ Sports Medicine Associate with the Oakland Raiders for six seasons. He also served as a Strength and Conditioning Consultant for Major League Baseball’s San Francisco Giants and Class A San Jose Giants from 2008 to 2009. Additionally, Neibel worked for the Atlanta Falcons Physical Therapy Center in Snellville, GA before joining the team’s athletic performance staff.

He is a USAW certified, level one, Olympic lifting coach, a certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist with National Strength and Conditioning Association, and certified in Russian Kettle bell training.

Neibel graduated from Long Beach State University in 1996 with a degree in Sports Psychology before earning a degree in Physical Therapy from Cerritos College in 1998. He joined the Oakland Raiders as a Strength and Conditioning intern in 2003.

He is a native of Cupertino, CA.

Neibel’s Coaching Background

2013 - Head Strength & Cond. // Falcons

2011-12 - Asst. Strength & Cond. // Falcons

2008-09 - Strength & Cond. Conslt.// SF Giants

2004-09 - Strength & Cond. Assoc. // Raiders

2003 - Strength & Cond. Intern // Raiders

Raiders? Baseball? Emm.... Yeah!

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I haven't seen anyone mention the new CBA with the NFLPA

which limits just how much a TEAM can do --training, practice, conditioning etc.

There were major complaints from some teams last year about how it had effected the number and severity of injuries.

I guess the Falcons were lucky last year and it has casught up to them this year.

Still I thought Fish was not doing a very good job for several years. Now I wonder.if I was wrong.

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Looked at Konz combine stats, I forgot that he only did 17 reps on the 225 test. For a 300+ athlete that is horrid! I know thats only one metric but it still gives an indication of muscle strength/endurance.

Do some research on why Wisconsin linemen often don't get many reps on the bench.

Its not just Konz.

There is a reason.

I happen to agree with the University of Wisconsin, and their conditioning paradigm is why so many Wisconsin linemen are successful NFL players.

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Do some research on why Wisconsin linemen often don't get many reps on the bench.

Its not just Konz.

There is a reason.

I happen to agree with the University of Wisconsin, and their conditioning paradigm is why so many Wisconsin linemen are successful NFL players.

Regarding Konz and other Linemen.

There was a discussion on here a while back and the Conclusion basically

came to this.

Big guys with long arms typically can not do the volume of reps due to the long arms.

Made sense to me but, I am no expert on the subject.

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Guys,... As a former strength and conditioning coach at the collegiate level, I can tell you this, The design for college kids is to build on their already growing speed , power and mass, and teach the the technique of certain lifts..... At the pro level, there is such small jumps to increasing those areas. Now...endurance, flexibility and stability in the soft tissues and joints, you can help a lot, I saw fishs workouts, they were built around these principles... It was almost a prehab, flexibility and maintenance program,

I don't know what the new strength coach does, And some of these injuries are just plain football injuries...especially the spoon injury, and sjax has his own program, but if we see a continuation of these injuries, then there might be a link

everytime a team has a few injuries its always the strength coach's fault...LOL.

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I haven't seen anyone mention the new CBA with the NFLPA

which limits just how much a TEAM can do --training, practice, conditioning etc.

There were major complaints from some teams last year about how it had effected the number and severity of injuries.

I guess the Falcons were lucky last year and it has casught up to them this year.

Still I thought Fish was not doing a very good job for several years. Now I wonder.if I was wrong.

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http://www.ajc.com/n...eff-fish/nT4W2/

Jeff Fish, the Falcons director of athletic performance, was released on Tuesday, the team confirmed.

The move is surprising because several players credited Fish with improving their strength, speed and agility.

Falcons tight end Tony Gonzalez credited Fish's kettle bell workouts with helping him to continue to play at a high level at age 36.

He also oversaw quarterback Matt Ryan's offseason workouts last season that were credited for his improve strength down the stretch.

Except for the 2009 season, the team has not been beset with a great deal of serious injuries on Fish's watch.

During the 2008 season, he was fined $2,500 by the league for his role in a sideline skirmish that involved Washington cornerback DeAngelo Hall.

Word is he hit on Arthur's boyfriend McKay. Just sayin' man.
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Regarding Konz and other Linemen.

There was a discussion on here a while back and the Conclusion basically

came to this.

Big guys with long arms typically can not do the volume of reps due to the long arms.

Made sense to me but, I am no expert on the subject.

yes the length of arms plays a huge factor when bench pressing. I'm a taller lanky guy, can press 225 aroun12-15 and I'm about 190lbs. I consider it good for me, but like someone mentioned above, the long arms factor and Wisconsin could have their own way of training.
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I haven't seen anyone mention the new CBA with the NFLPA

which limits just how much a TEAM can do --training, practice, conditioning etc.

There were major complaints from some teams last year about how it had effected the number and severity of injuries.

I guess the Falcons were lucky last year and it has casught up to them this year.

Still I thought Fish was not doing a very good job for several years. Now I wonder.if I was wrong.

This has been a big topic of discussion on Sirius NFL radio of late. The number of and security of injuries are exponentially increasing. Since the new CBA. Last count I heard at the end of Preseason there were almost 40 more player on IR than at the same time last year.

People whining about the coaching and training staff don't seem to get that they are severely limited by the CNA in how much training, practice and conditioning time players are allowed.

Teams don't have a choice. They can't violate the terms of the CBA without consequences.

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IMO, strength and conditioning as been at the heart of the Falcons' issues in the 2nd half of games. Jeff Fish was fired after the loss vs San Francisco and I thought it was warranted based on what I saw on the field.

Maybe, but the problem in the 2nd half and with us getting out muscled seems to be worse not better.

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Guys,... As a former strength and conditioning coach at the collegiate level, I can tell you this, The design for college kids is to build on their already growing speed , power and mass, and teach the the technique of certain lifts..... At the pro level, there is such small jumps to increasing those areas. Now...endurance, flexibility and stability in the soft tissues and joints, you can help a lot, I saw fishs workouts, they were built around these principles... It was almost a prehab, flexibility and maintenance program,

I don't know what the new strength coach does, And some of these injuries are just plain football injuries...especially the spoon injury, and sjax has his own program, but if we see a continuation of these injuries, then there might be a link

I believe there is a link, I still don't understand why fish was fired back in January
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IMO, strength and conditioning as been at the heart of the Falcons' issues in the 2nd half of games. Jeff Fish was fired after the loss vs San Francisco and I thought it was warranted based on what I saw on the field.

The 2nd half against San Fran was because we don't have a NT to help clog the running lanes in the middle of our d-line and keep blockers off our LBs. Our defense had to pretty much sell out to stop the run which created wide open spaces for the TEs. Combine that with the 2 turnovers by the offense in the 2nd half and you have a recipe for a collapse.

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