Bring It Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 If they're both such great players................................why aren't NFL teams lining up, chomping at the bit to SIGN THEM ??? Lord knows there's been enough time to grab them both......................between 32 TEAMS. Welcome to the "World of Hype". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Abe was the only player on the front 7 for the Falcons that made game changing plays last year, and he made a bunch of them.That's not hype, that is just reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And I can't quite figure out what John Abraham did to deserve the hate he is getting from people lately. It's wierd to me.I guess it is just an overzealousness to defend TD or something, but he certainly doesn't deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 You don't know the money that they're asking for or the contract length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Teams have budgets and needs, strengths and weaknesses. Will always be free agents who fall through the cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyakita Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Abe didn't do jack the second half of the season, can't even stay on the field the longer the season goes on, and what the OP said, why isn't he being scooped up by one of the other 31 NFL teams? Yeah he was a great Falcon but an expensive player to have around for what we were getting in return later half of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Or maybe they just don't want to commit to anything until August when guys start getting hurt and teams are desperate.Seems like a good business move to me.Plus they don't have to worry about OTAs. Vets hate OTAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 When in doubt, follow the money. Its all about budgets and scheme. Both of them willbe signed, its just a matter of time. Let OTAS and training camp start, an injury here, a player not fitting there, and boom they are both signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyakita Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 nothing like settling for second best when the best option goes down...you basically accepted the fact right there that Abe isn't worth signing to a team right now...and yet you still want to argue how great he is rather than was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Abe didn't do jack the second half of the season, can't even stay on the field the longer the season goes on, and what the OP said, why isn't he being scooped up by one of the other 31 NFL teams? Yeah he was a great Falcon but an expensive player to have around for what we were getting in return later half of the year.John Abraham saved the game against the Cardinals when he forced a fumble that resulted in a TD. That happened in the second half of the season.He had a great game against the Saints when the Falcons shut down Brees, with a sack and two passes defended. He was great in that game. That happened in the second half of the season.This notion that Abraham just disappeared for the entire second half of the season..just fiction.If you don't think it is fiction look at how effing sad the Falcons D looked once he was hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't get the point of the post. Obviously, if Abe and Seymour have set their market price higher than teams are willing to pay. It doesn't mean that neither is worthy of having for a year or so at a lower price. Both have had great careers (one of them was our stalwart defensive player for years), so what's with putting them down? If they don't want to play for league minimum, that's understandable. If teams don't want to commit for two years and $7-8 million, that's understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't get the point of the post. Obviously, if Abe and Seymour have set their market price higher than teams are willing to pay. It doesn't mean that neither is worthy of having for a year or so at a lower price. Both have had great careers (one of them was our stalwart defensive player for years), so what's with putting them down? If they don't want to play for league minimum, that's understandable. If teams don't want to commit for two years and $7-8 million, that's understandable.Exactly. Very well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Abe is looking to be more of a full time player, and teams don't seem to view him that way, whereas Seymour is earning 12mil in dead money from the Raiders this season, so has no interest in playing unless it's the right situaton. There are unique situations for both of them. That's what's been reported at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yep281986 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Both them are good players that expects a one last huge contract before they retire. The problem is that NFL GMs are not willing to give big contracts to old vets on their way out. They used to, just not anymore. The market of salary has changed from what they're accustomed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyakita Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 So lets see 15 total tackles, 3 sacks and goose eggs for the playoffs, and how much time on the bench? Compare that with 20 tackles and 7 sacks to start the season...yeah he gets better as the season wears on. Seriously you can love a player but the dude is old and his best is behind him, 31 other teams with far greater knowledge of the game can agree on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Abe always had and will have my respect. I really wish he had another year here. Unless he signs with the Aints. Then he's dead to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 And I can't quite figure out what John Abraham did to deserve the hate he is getting from people lately. It's wierd to me.I guess it is just an overzealousness to defend TD or something, but he certainly doesn't deserve it.No, no.............I don't "Hate" Abe, in fact I don't even like the word HATE....................waaay too much of it in the world today. I agree, Abe WAS a very productive player but I believe his body is wearing out .......................like fast. Our coaches know this. His days of being an impact player are pretty much over and the Falcons probably decided they can't afford to use a very valuable roster spot on a "Part Time" player, especially at a high income. Abe made some incredible plays for us over the past few years, absolutely. He WAS awesome..................the key word being "Was". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I aint sweating it, Abe is just about at the end of his physical ability IMO .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't get the point of the post. Obviously, if Abe and Seymour have set their market price higher than teams are willing to pay. It doesn't mean that neither is worthy of having for a year or so at a lower price. Both have had great careers (one of them was our stalwart defensive player for years), so what's with putting them down? If they don't want to play for league minimum, that's understandable. If teams don't want to commit for two years and $7-8 million, that's understandable.Well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 When in doubt, follow the money. Its all about budgets and scheme. Both of them willbe signed, its just a matter of time. Let OTAS and training camp start, an injury here, a player not fitting there, and boom they are both signed.True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 John Abraham will sign with somebody before the 2013 season starts, and he is going to be a very good asset for whichever team that is.Feel free to bookmark this thread so you can call me out on that prediction later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And I can't quite figure out what John Abraham did to deserve the hate he is getting from people lately. It's wierd to me.I guess it is just an overzealousness to defend TD or something, but he certainly doesn't deserve it.Who hates Abe, or has been hating on Abe? lol Think maybe you're seeing things that aren't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Who hates Abe, or has been hating on Abe? lolThink maybe you're seeing things that aren't there.No one hates Abe, some of us though have seen him disapear far to much over the last few years and are ready to move on.We do know of one person (cough) peyton (cough) that has admitted to hating TD for cutting Abe so it's pretty obvious Peyton's rage is clouding his judgement not the other way around.The fact he still tries to argue like he is unbiased is like some bizarro world thing going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Like people said go back look at the 2012 season entirely look at the teams John Abraham actually did a lot of damage too. Let's look shall we I see Arizona, Oakland, San Diego, and Kansas City he even had a fair game against Carolina the first time in Tackles, but no sacks. So what does this say he was at least good the first half the season against SORRY TEAMS in the second half he had one good game everything else is forgettable. That one game was against the saints oh keep in mind those games he did very well in still possibly could have won regardless if he's there or not. Then topping that all off he didn't do a whole lot in the playoffs anyways so what makes it really justifiable to bring him back, and then he's being an *** trying to get all this money when everyone knows he's done, or at least a shell of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And I can't quite figure out what John Abraham did to deserve the hate he is getting from people lately. It's wierd to me.I guess it is just an overzealousness to defend TD or something, but he certainly doesn't deserve it.Why will anybody hate on Abe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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