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This question may have been asked and answered in an earlier post which I missed --- Does anyone have an opinion on possible comp picks for Clabo, Grimes, Chris Owens and Vance Walker? Are we likely to get a pick below Round 4 or 5 for any of them?

I would imagine Osi and SJax cancel out anything.

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This question may have been asked and answered in an earlier post which I missed --- Does anyone have an opinion on possible comp picks for Clabo, Grimes, Chris Owens and Vance Walker? Are we likely to get a pick below Round 4 or 5 for any of them?

Been extensively debated in another thread. There were 3 schools of thought.

1. Osi and Sjax won't count because their contracts didn't expire

2. Osi and Sjax will count because they, not the team, were responsible for arranging their own releases.

3. Osi and Sjax will count because all free agents signed in that period count, it's only teams who cut players early that don't get to count that towards compensation picks.

We'll get nothing for Clabo and Robinson, they were released. Grimes and Walker should cancel Osi and Sjax, while Owens might bring a 7th.

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Based on what earned us a comp pick last year, we have 5 former players that are eligible to earn us a comp pick.

Grimes: 4th

Walker: 6th or 7th (right around the cutoff point)

Owens: 7th

McCown: 7th

Svitec: 7th

Meanwhile, we picked up two FAs.

Osi: 5th

Sjax: 5th

B/c of the weird way in which their contracts were ended, it is still unclear as to whether the two of them qualify or not (voided or cut), but for the sake of argument, we'll just assume that they do.

A player added can only cancel out a player at their same level or lower, so, if both of them count, they would cancel out Walker and one of the 7ths.

We would then have earned a 4th and two 7ths, but keep in mind that this is only based on revenue, for now, and playing time will also be factored in. Likewise, if one of them fails to make their team, then we would earn nothing for them.

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Based on what earned us a comp pick last year, we have 5 former players that are eligible to earn us a comp pick.

Grimes: 4th

Walker: 6th or 7th (right around the cutoff point)

Owens: 7th

McCown: 7th

Svitec: 7th

Meanwhile, we picked up two FAs.

Osi: 5th

Sjax: 5th

B/c of the weird way in which their contracts were ended, it is still unclear as to whether the two of them qualify or not (voided or cut), but for the sake of argument, we'll just assume that they do.

A player added can only cancel out a player at their same level or lower, so, if both of them count, they would cancel out Walker and one of the 7ths.

We would then have earned a 4th and two 7ths, but keep in mind that this is only based on revenue, for now, and playing time will also be factored in. Likewise, if one of them fails to make their team, then we would earn nothing for them.

Yeah, I could see this happening, the problem with comp picks is no one knows how the NFL awards the draft picks at NFL owners meeting. I remember folks arguing about some of the players not counting because of minimum pay last year, but Falcons did get comp picks for Sanders and kelvin Hayden.

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Meanwhile, we picked up two FAs.

Osi: 5th

Sjax: 5th

B/c of the weird way in which their contracts were ended, it is still unclear as to whether the two of them qualify or not (voided or cut), but for the sake of argument, we'll just assume that they do.

The following paragraph from compensatory draft guru adamjt says that players with voided contracts, such as Osi and S-Jax, DO count in the compensatory formula:

"In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team."

http://adamjt13.blog...-nfl-draft.html

Both S-Jax and Osi became UFAs due to the final year in their contracts being "voided". Osi's contract was voided due to a "technicality" in his contract. Jackson's contract gave him the option to void his final year. Therefore, both Osi and S-Jax should count as qualified UFAs signed by Atlanta, in my opinion.

"Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora's contract was voided at 4:01 p.m. ET on Thursday due to a technicality in his contract. He is now an unrestricted free agent, according to Jenny Vrentas, the Giants' beat writer for The Star-Ledger."

http://www.sbnation....ants-free-agent

St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson will void the final year of his contract and become a free agent next month, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Monday night, citing unnamed NFL sources.......This will be Jackson's first experience as a free agent. According to Thomas, Jackson wants to play for a Super Bowl contender.

http://aol.sportingn...ct-running-back

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The following paragraph from compensatory draft guru adamjt says that players with voided contracts, such as Osi and S-Jax, DO count in the compensatory formula:

"In order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1, he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team."

http://adamjt13.blog...-nfl-draft.html

Both S-Jax and Osi became UFAs due to the final year in their contracts being "voided". Osi's contract was voided due to a "technicality" in his contract. Jackson's contract gave him the option to void his final year. Therefore, both Osi and S-Jax should count as qualified UFAs signed by Atlanta, in my opinion.

"Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora's contract was voided at 4:01 p.m. ET on Thursday due to a technicality in his contract. He is now an unrestricted free agent, according to Jenny Vrentas, the Giants' beat writer for The Star-Ledger."

http://www.sbnation....ants-free-agent

St. Louis Rams running back Steven Jackson will void the final year of his contract and become a free agent next month, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Monday night, citing unnamed NFL sources.......This will be Jackson's first experience as a free agent. According to Thomas, Jackson wants to play for a Super Bowl contender.

http://aol.sportingn...ct-running-back

Still lookin at a 4th and two 7ths, which aint bad.

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