Nfl Network Best Team On Paper

[Tuggle'2]

mike Tomlin did as well lol. According to Tim brown, chucky didn't earn it, he was handed the trophy by his friend that disliked the organization that he coached lok

MIke Tomlin has proved himself. I think Gruden would still be coaching if he were the guru many perceive him to be.

[Falcon Fred]

our front office has done an amazing job since 08 well with the exception to perria jerry i am one happy falcon fan.. now lets win a **** superbowl!

[Bill Brasky]

MIke Tomlin has proved himself. I think Gruden would still be coaching if he were the guru many perceive him to be.

Gruden is a good coach, whether or not he rode Dungy's team to a SB is debatable but he did also make the Raiders relevant for the only time in the last 20 years. The reason he isn't coaching currently is because he's waiting for the right money/team to make his return. The longer he waits the higher his value becomes honestly. It'll hit a plateau eventually like Cowher has, but every year their names will be linked to all the open jobs and as soon as one of them is right, they'll pounce for the money/chance.

Gruden is a good coach, whether or not he rode Dungy's team to a SB is debatable but he did also make the Raiders relevant for the only time in the last 20 years. The reason he isn't coaching currently is because he's waiting for the right money/team to make his return. The longer he waits the higher his value becomes honestly. It'll hit a plateau eventually like Cowher has, but every year their names will be linked to all the open jobs and as soon as one of them is right, they'll pounce for the money/chance.

[Tuggle'2]

Gruden is a good coach, whether or not he rode Dungy's team to a SB is debatable but he did also make the Raiders relevant for the only time in the last 20 years. The reason he isn't coaching currently is because he's waiting for the right money/team to make his return. The longer he waits the higher his value becomes honestly. It'll hit a plateau eventually like Cowher has, but every year their names will be linked to all the open jobs and as soon as one of them is right, they'll pounce for the money/chance.

Right but that "success" in Oakland didn't last very long did it? I have a feeling that if a team were really interested in hiring Chucky he would of already had a job on one of the many high profile teams recently in dire need of a HC. Instead he is on ESPN with a whiteboard questioning prospects on football knowledge. I see him the same way I would a player like T.O.

[Bill Brasky]

Right but that "success" in Oakland didn't last very long did it? I have a feeling that if a team were really interested in hiring Chucky he would of already had a job on one of the many high profile teams recently in dire need of a HC. Instead he is on ESPN with a whiteboard questioning prospects on football knowledge. I see him the same way I would a player like T.O.

It didn't last long because he left. That would indicate he was a bigger factor than you are giving him credit for.

What high profile team with the right personnel has had an opening in the last few years? He was fired after the 2008 season and went to ESPN that year. Give him a year or two out of the game to replenish his image and now the last two years he's been rumored again. I think he's more likely to return before Cowher does, but only because Cowher is looking for Parcells level control of the team which he hasn't been able to get in the right situation yet. Gruden is only 48, he's looking for that one long term gig to retire on when he's 60 I'd bet. Cowher at 55 is looking for the same.

[Tuggle'2]

It didn't last long because he left. That would indicate he was a bigger factor than you are giving him credit for.

What high profile team with the right personnel has had an opening in the last few years? He was fired after the 2008 season and went to ESPN that year. Give him a year or two out of the game to replenish his image and now the last two years he's been rumored again. I think he's more likely to return before Cowher does, but only because Cowher is looking for Parcells level control of the team which he hasn't been able to get in the right situation yet. Gruden is only 48, he's looking for that one long term gig to retire on when he's 60 I'd bet. Cowher at 55 is looking for the same.

Chiefs , Eagles , Chargers off the top of my head. I am sure more would make as much sense. I see Billick coaching before Cowher does again. I mean it is all about my opinion but Gruden would have a coaching job if one was really offered with any bit of seriousness.

[MadScientist]

Paper champs, haha I always wanted to say that .

[Bill Brasky]

Chiefs , Eagles , Chargers off the top of my head. I am sure more would make as much sense. I see Billick coaching before Cowher does again. I mean it is all about my opinion but Gruden would have a coaching job if one was really offered with any bit of seriousness.

First off, at least for me, your imgur link isn't working. Second, Chiefs are not a good situation for an Offensive coach to be in without a QB. Reid isn't gonna get much out of Smith imo. Eagles have lots of holes and almost didn't keep Vick so again another bad situation. Kelly better hope he can work miracles there. Chargers? Not exactly the high profile job he's looking for, not unless they announced they were moving to LA.

I grant you that it's debatable what jobs are high profile enough, but it all comes down to money and the right situation. Those three jobs don't fit that bill enough imo. Chicago maybe, but they've been known to buck convention in hiring coaches so maybe they didn't come calling.

The Niners job was a better fit although still Alex Smith, but maybe Gruden asked for too much or wasn't ready to come back, I don't know. Cowher wants control, the kind he couldn't get in PIttsburgh. Billick is an interesting observation, not sure why he's not back in some capacity, but maybe he's not interested. He does the 3rd tier Fox games, he could have fought to move up at this point, he might just be content. Who knows.

[Tuggle'2]

First off, at least for me, your imgur link isn't working. Second, Chiefs are not a good situation for an Offensive coach to be in without a QB. Reid isn't gonna get much out of Smith imo. Eagles have lots of holes and almost didn't keep Vick so again another bad situation. Kelly better hope he can work miracles there. Chargers? Not exactly the high profile job he's looking for, not unless they announced they were moving to LA.

I grant you that it's debatable what jobs are high profile enough, but it all comes down to money and the right situation. Those three jobs don't fit that bill enough imo. Chicago maybe, but they've been known to buck convention in hiring coaches so maybe they didn't come calling.

The Niners job was a better fit although still Alex Smith, but maybe Gruden asked for too much or wasn't ready to come back, I don't know. Cowher wants control, the kind he couldn't get in PIttsburgh. Billick is an interesting observation, not sure why he's not back in some capacity, but maybe he's not interested. He does the 3rd tier Fox games, he could have fought to move up at this point, he might just be content. Who knows.

That is where I see you are wrong. All 4 teams ( +1 to you for Chicago ) would be a good fit. We have to be thinking before any moves were made. When using Alex Smith you automatically think that is what he would of done. I think all 4 theoretically sound great for any " good " coach to make his own. All 4 have a decent base and only 1 technically needed a QB. Going against what I said I think Gruden might actually be good for a guy like Vick. He also could of helped turn that team of divas into a group of men with one goal. I believe he also might just have the attitude to fix whats wrong with Cutlers spoiled old money arse. That doesn't change how I see him as a coach though.

[Yep281986]

Hataz goin hate

[falcondiehardsince 88]

Alot of people think Jacksons old (29) or "Worn out", but what he does for this offense, will take us from 7th, to top 3. Top 5 at worst. Hes played for the Rams, THE RAMS, when everyone game planned for him, and still got his K. Hes going to be motivated so much knowing he can win, and go deep into the playoff. Now lets just beef up the lines!

I havent been as excited ever for a season. Now we will all get to see that I knew what i was talking about with turner. He was good at a couple things, terrible at a couple things, but the things he was terrible at cost us fire power for so long on offense, and become easy to defend against. In this NFL its all about beating a team many different ways, any way that they can't stop.. This makes us by far the most elite offense in football and if you dont believe it , better than the cowboys sb teams, better than chandler and TM and TM and JA, our offense is legendary now!!!!

[north falcon]

Roddy is better than Boldin. Julio is better than Crabtree. Tony is better than vernon even though vernon is more athletic. S-Jax can stick with Gore and give me Matt over Kaepernick anyday. The Niners offense maybe good but they still aren't touching ours.

If you write that S-Jax can stick with Gore, then Boldin and Vernon can stick with Roddy and Gonzalez. They're all really close in talent. If last year is what Kaepernick's career is going to be like (which is unlikely), then he is better than Matt Ryan, I'm sorry.

Julio has a chance to become the best WR in the entire league, while I think Crabtree is nothing special at all.

However, SF has the best O-line in the NFL.

If Kaepernick plays as well as he did last year, I'd give the edge to SF on offense, mostly based on their dominant O-line and the addition of a real WR for Kaepernick to throw to.

[north falcon]

The hype train is in full gear for the seachickens and 49ers. Those two QBs are clearly not Matty Ice.

Hype train? The 49ers were in the NFCCG 2 years ago, then got better, then went to the Superbowl last year and then improved even more. Oh, and they have about 1,000 draft picks in April. The Seahawks would've been in the Superbowl last year if not for us and they got A LOT better this off-season. And those 2 QBs who are "clearly not Matty Ice" have a decent chance of being better than Matt Ryan. They'll be around for a while.

[Tuggle'2]

Hype train? The 49ers were in the NFCCG 2 years ago, then got better, then went to the Superbowl last year and then improved even more. Oh, and they have about 1,000 draft picks in April. The Seahawks would've been in the Superbowl last year if not for us and they got A LOT better this off-season. And those 2 QBs looked very impressive in their first years playing. They'll be around for a while.

I get what you're saying but c'mon man!

One day a Falcon fan will be able to talk smack with another Falcon fan without another Falcon fan ruining it.

[DownvoteDon]

I saw it and almost hit the floor I was so surprised at the love. To some it up why we won was "How are you going to stop all those weapons Atlanta has?"

Bring back Mike Malarkey?

[north falcon]

I get what you're saying but c'mon man!

One day a Falcon fan will be able to talk smack with another Falcon fan without another Falcon fan ruining it.

I'm not ruining anything. I'm just talking sports with another fan. Just giving my opinion. I disagree with his opinion of basically dismissing the Seahawks and 49ers despite what they accomplished last year and what they have done this off-season. Barring extreme injury, it's pretty obvious that the Seahawks and 49ers will be strong forces in the NFC and our biggest competition.

[Tuggle'2]

I'm not ruining anything. I'm just talking sports with another fan. Just giving my opinion. I disagree with his opinion of basically dismissing the Seahawks and 49ers despite what they accomplished last year and what they have done this off-season.

This is about a bunch of guys who normally don't pick us as the best calling us the best. Yeah , you are the pisser on said parade with what you're doing. lol

Bring back Mike Malarkey?

[north falcon]

This is about a bunch of guys who normally don't pick us as the best calling us the best. Yeah , you are the pisser on said parade with what you're doing. lol

I don't really get too caught up in what the national media thinks about I understand that it's a popularity contest. I'm happy when we do get the attention because it gives me a better chance to hear about my favorite team.

Long story short, WhenFalconsWin said "The Seahawks and 49ers aren't that good" and I said "Nah, they're pretty good"

That's all

Edit - It doesn't seem like he's the kind of guy to do this, but I just like to refresh peoples memory that there are other good teams in the league too. If we happen to lose to the Seahawks in the playoffs next year, I don't wanna hear people say "Fire Smith, fire TD, cut Ryan!"

[SwampyMux12]

I'm not ruining anything. I'm just talking sports with another fan. Just giving my opinion. I disagree with his opinion of basically dismissing the Seahawks and 49ers despite what they accomplished last year and what they have done this off-season. Barring extreme injury, it's pretty obvious that the Seahawks and 49ers will be strong forces in the NFC and our biggest competition.

All depends on the QB play. I for one am not willing to crown them based off 1 solid year (Wilson) and 1/2 a solid year (Kaepernick). Seahawks added Harvin who averages less than 12 yards a reception in his career and even if he returns kicks they are already strong there. Defensively, who knows about Clemons? May never be what he was, so Avril basically replaces him... Did they get better, I'd be stupid to say they didn't, but I'm not going to say that they are so drastically improved that they are going to be an unstoppable machine... 49ers lost a very good defensive player and added a very good, albiet older, WR. They also lost Delanie Walker, Tedd Ginn and 2 solid players off their Dline. Not saying they aren't still gonna be good, but I don't really see them as having gotten that much better, if at all... Their improvement really hinges on the QB, as does Seattle.

[Falc_Fan_Since_Six]

"Defense wins championships" I don't know why everyone all of a sudden thinks that rule has changed. While our offense can overcome some of our defensive shortcomings, our defense has actually gotten worse than it was last year. I don't know how anyone can say otherwise. I hope as much as anyone that TD isn't through but if you are counting on the draft to make an immediate upgrade then I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell you. Osi was a good move but not enough. A much better move would have to been able to keep Abe somehow and then sign Osi. That probably wasn't possible but come on Thomas, at least get me some corners that are better than Franks. I mean really.....

[FalconsAboveBoard]

I would say the pats or 49ers then the dirty birds

[FalconsAboveBoard]

"Defense wins championships" I don't know why everyone all of a sudden thinks that rule has changed. While our offense can overcome some of our defensive shortcomings, our defense has actually gotten worse than it was last year. I don't know how anyone can say otherwise. I hope as much as anyone that TD isn't through but if you are counting on the draft to make an immediate upgrade then I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell you. Osi was a good move but not enough. A much better move would have to been able to keep Abe somehow and then sign Osi. That probably wasn't possible but come on Thomas, at least get me some corners that are better than Franks. I mean really.....

Bingo!!!

[Falc_Fan_Since_Six]

Oh and BTW, I like Nolan and all, seems like a smart and talented guy but let us not forget that we were stopped from a SB berth by what is essentially a "gimmick offense".

[Big Rob 64]

man we are effin' STACKED

if the coaches play Mike Johnson at RG, we'll have 4 former All-American O-linemen (Baker/Blalock/Konz/Johnson)

Have you ever actually watch our offensive line play?

Johnson has one start in three years--- and he couldn't finish that game! Johnson suffered a traumatic injury when night fell on him.

Baker is a soft, cowardly, lazy malingering gold-bricker that put forth effort only in his contract year. Now that he got paid, he'll go back to being Lord of the Whirlpool.

Konz has loads of talent and has the potential to be an All Pro center. Unfortunately, he also has a bad habit of playing too tall, too upright, and with no leverage. It can be coached out, but there is no guarantee that it WILL BE coached out of him. Some guys just never seem to get it. I believe Konz will, but it is a disturbing possibility that this is a bad habit he just never breaks.

Blalock: my favorite current Falcon. Plays my old position. I hope we get Jonathan Cooper to play RG, in part because he wears my old number: 64.

Lamar Holmes: sooner rather than later, I want him to grab Baker's spot and never let Baker see the field again. I believe he is good enough a LT to do exactly that.

[ProudFalcFan]

Have you ever actually watch our offensive line play?

Baker is a soft, cowardly, lazy malingering gold-bricker that put forth effort only in his contract year. Now that he got paid, he'll go back to being Lord of the Whirlpool.

Lamar Holmes: sooner rather than later, I want him to grab Baker's spot and never let Baker see the field again. I believe he is good enough a LT to do exactly that.

Since you are the anonymous poster hiding behind an internet name attacking someone and hating on someone you don't know, it would appear that you resemble your own remarks far more than Baker who, even in 2011, we now know played hurt but came back far too early for the sole purpose of trying to help his team and his teammates.

i suspect that if you ever said what you typed about Baker to any other member of the Falcons o-line, you would immediately find out just how physically tough our o-line is.

This to me, is one of the very sad traits of this message board. These players are professionals and the Falcons, and especially Baker, have withstood enormous criticism with incredible character and courage. Guys on this Board have every right to comment on character, strategy and athleticism. But anytime anyone calls someone with Bakers very respected work ethic "a soft, cowardly, lazy malingering gold-bricker" only demonstrates your ignorance and lack of respect for the Game, the Team and our Players.

I think there should be a rule going forward that if anyone wants to attack a person's personal character that they should at least have the decency and courage to leave their real name, address and phone number. You might soon find a knock on the door.

Bet we'd have a lot more respect than the anonymous haters who share their opinions without regard to fact.