g-dawg Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 After cutting Abraham, D-Rob and likely letting Grimes walk, Falcons needed 2 starting D-Ends and 2 starting CBs (as I consider 3 CBs as starters).Kroy Bierrman is a valuable player but he is a rotational guy that can play nickel OLB and is just a guy that should come in to spell starting D-Ends.Massoquoi and Matthews are just back-ups. Maybe one of these guys will develop but for a team with Superbowl aspirations, it is unwise to count on either of these guys.My thought was Falcons would want to add 1 veteran DE and 1 veteran CB before turning to the draft. We have added Osi Umenyiora at DE so now I believe we should look to the draft for hopefully another guy that could start (however we could still grab Abe much later in the spring if his price continues to drop).Even if Falcons add a cornerback in the draft - and they should - they still need a wily vet to pair with Samuel and McClain. Here are the suspects:Brent Grimes (30 - best option, even w/ injury)Chris Gamble (said he retired but could come back for contender)Mike Jenkins (28)Antoine Winfield (old at 36)Nmandi Asomugha (32, still living off his name and will get too much $$$)Tracy Porter (27)Marcus Trufant (32) - sign him then draft his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TOWNnDOWN Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 like to have GRIMES back but seems like he going to MIAMI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sipifalcon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Agreed but as much as I hate to say it I wouldnt mind having porter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampyMux12 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think you can cross Grimes off the list. You just get the feeling that he doesn't want to be here anymore. Would be SHOCKED to see him back. Tracy Porter or Mike Jenkins wouldn't be a bad choice, younger guys who've had some success in the league. We need some guys who can hang around for more than a year or 2 IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm thinking we go to draft for 2 cbs. Of the remaining cb FAs almost all will be over priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'm so on the fence about this, I don't know if drafting a vet CB is the best idea, we have tons of veteran leadership from the back end of our secondary I think a guy like Dansby who could come in and teach Dent a little more about being a 3 down linebacker as apposed to being a two down one like Curtis Lofton was.... that being said having a big of a youth movement at CB with a guy like Desmond Trufant, Jamar Taylor, or David Amerson I could see happening to slide in and play the RCB from day one (if he's ready) td usually signs a guy in july or august who could come in and help out if need be by then.Right now I have our needs at DE/CB/DT that being said I could see us signing Seymour to fill that gap for the year and have one more shot at a superbowl before he leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I'd go for Tracy porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg22 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 It would be good to see Grimes back, but there were holes everywhere on D last year, not just CB and DE. LBs were weak, epecially against TEs and DTs were just OK compared to the top Ds around the league.Falcons rely on offense. It would be nice to fill all the holes but this team has too many holes, plus they are pot comitted on the Offense. They are hoping the Def will get a few stops and a few turnovers. TD will draft some Def and pick up a cut vet or 2 for depth. I don't think any more splashes in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD597 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 We have 11 draft picks, those guys are going to have to fit in somewhere. I'm thinking we are done in FA now and if we sign anymore VET guys it will be way after the draft and well into spring training when our front office has some idea of the skills of our draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Falcon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I still think the playoff TE production was as much weakness in our scheme defending read option mobile QB as the physical abilities of our LB and Safeties. It wasn't like Nichols and Spoon were outrun by TE for 16 reg. season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 GrimesTrufantBushell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I disagree bc I think there are some mix ups as far as needs and wants are concerned. Imo We don't NEED 2 starting CBs. We need 1 because we have Asante, McClain and we need a 3rd. At this point I would go for the starter in the draft and then maybe draft a 2nd CB for depth and grooming once Asante is done. Now if we decide to come in 4 deep, then I wouldn't mind that but I dont think its a necessity. I agree that we need 2 CBs altogether but not 2 starters.If we were to pick up a vet, then I would go with Grimes and then draft Trufant/Banks.My second option would be to sign Mike Jenkins and then draft Jamar Taylor of whom I think is projected for the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 After cutting Abraham, D-Rob and likely letting Grimes walk, Falcons needed 2 starting D-Ends and 2 starting CBs (as I consider 3 CBs as starters).Kroy Bierrman is a valuable player but he is a rotational guy that can play nickel OLB and is just a guy that should come in to spell starting D-Ends.Massoquoi and Matthews are just back-ups. Maybe one of these guys will develop but for a team with Superbowl aspirations, it is unwise to count on either of these guys.My thought was Falcons would want to add 1 veteran DE and 1 veteran CB before turning to the draft. We have added Osi Umenyiora at DE so now I believe we should look to the draft for hopefully another guy that could start (however we could still grab Abe much later in the spring if his price continues to drop).Even if Falcons add a cornerback in the draft - and they should - they still need a wily vet to pair with Samuel and McClain. Here are the suspects:Brent Grimes (30 - best option, even w/ injury)Chris Gamble (said he retired but could come back for contender)Mike Jenkins (28)Antoine Winfield (old at 36)Nmandi Asomugha (32, still living off his name and will get too much $$$)Tracy Porter (27)Marcus Trufant (32) - sign him then draft his brother.if your counting mcclain and asante as starters then why do we need 2 more starters if you say we only need three starting caliber corners. We really only "need" one a second would just be convenient. Also and i know its not popular on the board but its what i think, i like kroy where he is. I think he could be a fine starter on the oposite side of osi if he wasnt being used in a traditional role, a normal starting end on his side would usually produce 6-8 sacks, kroy produce 4 in a hybrid role. Let him play the normal roll of a DE and i think he will produce 6 or 7 sacks easy. But thats just my opinion, i fully expect the board to jump my arse lol :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I still think the playoff TE production was as much weakness in our scheme defending read option mobile QB as the physical abilities of our LB and Safeties. It wasn't like Nichols and Spoon were outrun by TE for 16 reg. season games.i completely agree man, i personally feel we only need a little depth at linebacker. Ppl are quick to talk up guys and then two bad games and they turn on them. Nic is goin nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 if your counting mcclain and asante as starters then why do we need 2 more starters if you say we only need three starting caliber corners. We really only "need" one a second would just be convenient. Also and i know its not popular on the board but its what i think, i like kroy where he is. I think he could be a fine starter on the oposite side of osi if he wasnt being used in a traditional role, a normal starting end on his side would usually produce 6-8 sacks, kroy produce 4 in a hybrid role. Let him play the normal roll of a DE and i think he will produce 6 or 7 sacks easy. But thats just my opinion, i fully expect the board to jump my arse lol :PI agree with everything, including Kroy. I think we should control our expectations. Kroy was all over the place last year. We have to respect that and his willingness to do ANYTHING asked of him and still play ST. We rotate the D-line anyway but I too like Kroy where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I agree with everything, including Kroy. I think we should control our expectations. Kroy was all over the place last year. We have to respect that and his willingness to do ANYTHING asked of him and still play ST. We rotate the D-line anyway but I too like Kroy where he is.glad im not the only one lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Although I rather sign Abe as well, I still don't think its foolish to depend on Mass or Mathews to step up even with Super Bowl aspirations. Ravens had to depend on Ellerbe, Kruger, Cary Williams, etc to step up. Whats the point of drafting them if you cant depend on them even when heading to a SB.We need to depend on guys like McClain, Mass, Mathews, Robertson to step up and increase their production in an increased role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg22 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I still think the playoff TE production was as much weakness in our scheme defending read option mobile QB as the physical abilities of our LB and Safeties. It wasn't like Nichols and Spoon were outrun by TE for 16 reg. season games.TEs were very comfortable all year against our Def, and yes our LBs were outran by the good TEs last year. I'm not saying they can't tackle, but we need someone who can cover. I don't know if you noticed but we will be defending the read option a few times this year so we need to come up with a scheme and get more athletic at LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Grimes is as much a gamble as any rookie with his injury and attitude. And if we sign him for what would probably a short term deal, we will need a replacement for him come playoff time because chicken little won´t risk getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The Falcons are all in for 2013 so I think Winfield should be the guy. I love Brent Grimes, but I don't think anyone is quite sure what he is going to be able to bring in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Asante's shoulder was problematic last season...understandable we need 2 starters(FA/draft) at cb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Beast Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The Falcons are all in for 2013 so I think Winfield should be the guy. I love Brent Grimes, but I don't think anyone is quite sure what he is going to be able to bring in 2013.I think so too. We don´t have to solve all open DE/CB spots long term this off-season, what we need is someone who is most likely to deliever and stay healthy for this one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 And Antoine Winfield, even at 35, was still the best player in 2012 of those CBs available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgafatboy Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 did owens sign with another team..he takes alot of heat in here, but he had a pretty solid year under nolan. he made a few plays no other defender on the team could have made just with his speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgafatboy Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 ok i see he signed with cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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