Kayoh Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I think I have my first official prospect crush this year. I've been watching film, the senior bowl, the combine, looking over numbers, stats, measurements, everything, and the one guy that just shows up in every single facet of my scouting is Lemonier. He beat the best LT in the SEC, Chris Faulk, for TWO sacks against LSU, and in that game he was drawing CONSTANT double and even a few TRIPLE TEAMS. For a 250 lb DE, that is insane. You can really tell Fairly isn't around at Auburn anymore, because there is nobody on the inside drawing blockers away from Lemonier. Let's not allow ourselves to forget that Lemonier was playing on a defense coordinated by BVG. This kid is going to be an absolute stud, and is almost an exact clone of John Abraham and DeMarcus Ware when they were draft prospects. 6'3 1/2, 250, 4.55 40. Lemonier benched 225 27 times - that's exactly the number that Ware put up in 2005. 1.57 10 yard split, explosive on film, 9'11" broad jump, 34 1/2 inch arms...I just can't find a negative on this guy as a pass rusher. He clearly needs work against the run, but I would have to assume that if he isn't getting double/triple teamed all day every day, he'd have an easier time beating single blocks in the run game than he did at Auburn beating multiple blockers.I'd honestly be happy if we took Lemonier at 30. Some people might get irritated by it because it's a "reach", but at the end of the day when you see talent and you aren't 100% sure it'll be available at your next pick, reaching needs to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSFALCON Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I agree, there are some guys that love him so much they say he could go top 15With all the hype surrounding the other DEs, he has gotten slightly over looked...partially due to injury concerns, which he has clearedI have my doubts about other DEs (ansah, mingo, Moore) but this guy seems solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaptic apoptosis Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I agree and have been echoing the same sentiments about Lemonier. I absolutely think he may turn out to be one of the best pass rushers out of this draft. I think it is funny that you compare him to Abraham, because that is exactly what i get from him as well.But we could be wrong according to kennesaw77No way in heck he goes in the 1st. The guy isn't even that great of a pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaptic apoptosis Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) As far as reaching for him in the first goes. He won't be available at our 2nd round slot, so if we wanted him we would have to take him in the first or trade back. I have my suspicions that someone may even take him in the first round before us. Edited March 3, 2013 by synaptic apoptosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 He's a beast, solid character guy too. I'd love him, not sure in the first tho, he wants to put on weight as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Funny. I was thinking he was being overblown by some... but I went and researched him last night... and came away REALLY impressed!Also am changing my tune on Dion Jordan FWIW to anyone.I can see TD taking Lemonier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jluk Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I like him in the 2nd round. TD has made exceptions and picked up non-seniors once in the 1st round tho. Forgot who it was tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have been on the Lemonier train for a good minute. I think his only real negative is his bull rush and setting the edge. I really REALLY want this dude on the falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I have been on the Lemonier train for a good minute. I think his only real negative is his bull rush and setting the edge. I really REALLY want this dude on the falcons.what about the fact he can't play the run at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 what about the fact he can't play the run at all?Run defense can be taught. We've learned from Jamaal Anderson that pass rush ability can not be taught. Better to start with what can't be taught than try to teach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Run defense can be taught.Based on what or who? Edited March 3, 2013 by Kennesaw77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted March 3, 2013 Author Share Posted March 3, 2013 Based on what or who?DeMarcus Ware comes to mind. Abe too. Then there's Derrick Morgan, JPP, Michael Johnson, even Greg Hardy. All guys that were raw pass rush talents coming out of college and are solid run defenders in the NFL today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN_O_THE_ATL Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Good call on Lemonair. I've been a fan since his freshman year at AU. I could see him land in Pittsburgh as he is the ideal 3-4 OLB in their scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Been wanting him for a while. Posted about him in your Okafor/Taylor thread a little ways back. Dude will be a steal in the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 DeMarcus Ware comes to mind. Abe too. Then there's Derrick Morgan, JPP, Michael Johnson, even Greg Hardy. All guys that were raw pass rush talents coming out of college and are solid run defenders in the NFL today.Morgan, Michael Johnson, and Greg Hardy could all play the run. Not sure on Ware or Abe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkonator Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I be happy with him or tank Carradine in the 2nd Edited March 4, 2013 by Falkonator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEFalcon Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I would be elated if we drafted Lemonier. At the combine he had added some weight fom his playing days and kept his 40 time down. He certainly has some skills sets and abilities that can not be coached. The bad is that i don't think a quick DE, such as CL, will last until our late 2nd rr pick...it would be a risk to wait but a complete steal if it happened. The good is, if TD likes him, he doesn't care where he is projected, he will take him....ie Lamar Holmes.Does anyone know if the Falcons interviewed him at the combine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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