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2013 Offseason

Players Signed

CB Chris Gamble signs a two-year, $6.6 million contract. The deal contains $2 million guaranteed, including a $1 million signing bonus. Gamble is eligible for $100,000 offseason workout bonuses in both years. 2013: $900,00 (+ $1.1 million roster bonus) 2014: $4.25 million (+ $250,000 roster bonus), 2014: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/p...2506101/profile

DT Desmond Bryant signs a five-year, $20 million contract. The deal contains $7 million guaranteed, including a $5 million signing bonus. 2013: $700,000 (+ $2.35 million "signing" bonus), 2014: $715,000 (+ $2.435 million "signing" bonus), 2015: $3.5 million, 2016-17: $4 million, 2018: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/p...2507568/profile

TE Ben Watson signs a three-year, $9 million contract. The deal contains $3.5 million guaranteed. 2013: $1 million, 2014: $2.625 million, 2015: $3 million, 2016: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/p...2506122/profile

Atlanta traded its first-round selections (#30 overall) in 2013 to Miami to receive Miami's second-round selection (#42), third-round selection (#77) and fifth-round selection (#139) in 2013.

Players not resigned/Cut/Retired

RB Michael Turner (Cut) Saves $5.5 Million

TE Tony Gonzalez (Retire)

OC Todd McClure (Retire)

DT Peria Jerry (Cut)

CB Chris Owens

CB Brent Grimes

OLB Robert James

OLB Mike Peterson

OT Will Svitek

DE Cliff Matthews

DE Lawrence Sidbury

FB Bradie Ewing (Cut)

TE Michael Palmer

SS Chris Hope

CB Dunta Robinson (Cut) Saves $6 Million

Players Resigned/Restructured

QB Matt Ryan (8 Year $121.5 Million; $50 Million Guaranteed)

OT Sam Baker (2 Year $6 Million)

DT Vance Walker

SS William Moore (Franchise Tag)

2013 Draft

** Trade with Miami

*** Compensatory Selection for Lofton signing with New Orleans

2nd Round** OLB Khaseem Green, Rutgers

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 236| Projected 40 Time: 4.64

http://www.cbssports.../khaseem-greene

http://www.cfbstats....8078/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...eene?id=2539297

2nd Round DE Brandon Jenkins, Florida State

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 260| Projected 40 Time: 4.69

http://www.cfbstats....2754/index.html

http://www.cfbstats....3904/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...kins?id=2539226

3rd Round** SS Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 210| Projected 40 Time: 4.56

http://www.cbssports...onathan-cyprien

http://www.cfbstats....3851/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...rien?id=2539223

3rd Round TE Gavin Escobar, San Diego State

Height: 6-5 | Weight: 255| Projected 40 Time: 4.46

http://www.cbssports...6/gavin-escobar

http://www.cfbstats....5892/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...obar?id=2540211

3rd Round*** CB Darius Slay, Mississippi State

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190| Projected 40 Time: 4.46

http://www.nfldrafts...=2013&genpos=CB

http://www.cfbstats....0394/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...slay?id=2540288

4th Round OT/OG Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

Height: 6-5 | Weight: 318| Projected 40 Time: 5.33

http://www.nfldrafts...=2013&genpos=OT

http://www.nfl.com/d...ills?id=2540229

5th Round** ILB Vince Williams, Florida State

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 247| Projected 40 Time: 4.68

http://www.nfldrafts...2013&genpos=ILB

http://www.cfbstats....6267/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...iams?id=2540221

5th Round CB Terry Hawthorne, Illinois

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 194| Projected 40 Time: 4.49

http://www.cbssports...terry-hawthorne

http://www.cfbstats....4169/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...orne?id=2539238

6th Round RB Mike James, Miami

Height: 5-11 | Weight: 222| Projected 40 Time: 4.52

http://www.cbssports...4780/mike-james

http://www.cfbstats....4727/index.html

http://www.nfl.com/d...ames?id=2540224

7th Round WR Justin Brown, Oklahoma

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 207| Projected 40 Time: 4.56

http://www.nfldrafts...=2013&genpos=WR

http://www.cfbstats....5690/index.html

UDFA/ Practice Squad

OG Lane Taylor, Oklahoma State

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 328| Projected 40 Time: 5.26

http://www.cbssports...882/lane-taylor

FB Alex Singleton, Tulsa

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 260| Projected 40 Time: 4.83

http://www.nfldrafts...=2013&genpos=FB

http://www.cfbstats....6600/index.html

C Ivory Wade, Baylor

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 310| Projected 40 Time: 5.27

http://www.cbssports...4315/ivory-wade

K Zach Brown, Portland St

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 206| Projected 40 Time: 4.79

http://www.nfldrafts...r=2013&genpos=K

http://espn.go.com/c...928/zach-brown

Offensive Depth Chart

Quarterback Matt Ryan, Dominique Davis

Wide Receiver X Julio Jones, Justin Brown

Wide Receiver Z Roddy White, Harry Douglas, DJ Davis

Running Back Jacquizz Rodgers, Jason Snelling, Mike James

Fullback Alex Singleton

Tight End Ben Watson, Gavin Escobar, Chase Coffman

Left Offensive Tackle Sam Baker, Lamar Holmes

Left Offensive Guard Justin Blalock, Joe Hawley

Center Peter Konz, Joe Hawley

Right Offensive Guard Jordan Mills, Joe Hawley

Right Offensive Tackle Tyson Clabo, Lamar Holmes

Defensive Depth Chart

Left Defensive End Kroy Biermann, Brandon Jenkins,

Left Defensive Tackle Desmond Bryant, Corey Peters, Travian Robertson

Right Defensive Tackle Jonathan Babineaux, Vance Walker

Right Defensive End John Abraham, Jonathan Massaquoi

Weak-side Linebacker Sean Weatherspoon, Khaseem Green

Middle Linebacker Akeem Dent, Vince Williams

Strong-side Linebacker Stephen Nicholas, Khaseem Green

Left Cornerback Asante Samuels, Terry Hawthorne

Right Cornerback Chris Gamble, Darius Slay, Robert McClain

Strong Safety William Moore, Johnathan Cyprien

Free Safety Thomas DeCoud, Charles Mitchell

Special Teams Depth Chart

Kicker (FG) K Matt Byrant

Punter Matt Bosher

Kicker (KO) Matt Bosher

Long Snapper Josh Harris

Kick Returner Jacquizz Rodgers

Punt Returner Justin Brown

Holder Matt Bosher

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We don't have the 32nd pick in the draft and that trade is nowhere near realistic judging from the draft chart. Good draft as far as players, but like I said that trade is not close to equal.

I guess I am still in denial that we did not win the Super Bowl.

As far as the trade, there has been similar trades the past couple of years ex:

2007 Dallas trade with Philly to acquire Anthony Spears (36th, 87th and 139th) for the (26th)

2007 Bills trade with Ravens to acquire Paul Posluszny (43rd, 74th and 101st) for the (34th and 62nd)

2009 Greenbay trade with Patriots to acquire Clay Matthews (41st, 73rd and 83rd) for the (26th and 162nd)

2010 Ravens trade with Broncos to acquire Sergio Kindle (43rd, 70th and 114th) for the (25th)

2011 49er trade with Broncos to acquire Colin Kaepernick (45th, 108th and 141st) for the (36th)

These types of trades happens more than one would think, and actually turnout pretty well for the team losing multiple picks except the Serigo Kindle trade. By the way when was the last time draft trade chart was used when teams made trades?

I like this trade for many reasons, if I was Miami coming off of a year when it looks like you finally have a franchise QB since Marino you have to get him some weapons. I can see them make a play in free agency (Greg Jennings) and using this trade to go after Terrence Williams who in my opinion might be the best WR in the draft and still should be on the board when we pick. Not to mention that Miami has multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks so essential they would only be missing the 5th round pick, not necessarily the end of the world.The can use the rest of the salary cap money on resign their own players (Reggie Bush, Jake Long and Sean Smith). These type of moves will put in number two in their division and a very good chance of making the playoffs and possible dethroning the Patriots.

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Again none of these players leaving I consider drastic.

Ewing as before mention unknown what we have after the injury. Not opposed placing on the ps but really like Singleton as a short yardage back. 260 with 24 TDs just last year and 43 career TDs.

Matthews not enough room on the line with addition of Jenkins. He would be ranked as the sixth out six DE on the roster.

Palmer again is a numbers game, Watson the only real TE with big game experience. Escobar better prospects and that leaves either Coffman or Palmer which I personally like Coffman in our system.

Owens are you serious????????

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i just completely disagree with the way you handle our free agents and youth. sorry man just my opinion. feel our resources and time could be better used to improve the Dline. Besides bryant you really dont handle what we need there. A team that comes up 10 yards short of the superbowl shouldnt try to overhaul there team as much as you do. I think we have a very solid core and my biggest concern is Dline. You want to make moves there Biermann isnt the answer abe is old peters jerry walker robertson all are underachievers. I want to see what matthews and massaquoi can do.

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I guess gentlemen this is where we have to agree to disagree, I hear your argument about being a 13-3 team yet none of the players that I would like to either cut or let walk in FA played a significant role in our season this year or last so I don't get the argument. Everyone by now I would imagine knows that Turner and Robinson are cap casualties, I can't see paying Grime a huge contract coming off of a serious injury and being in the hey day of his career. As far a DT the sign was not only for this year because we were horrible against the run but we have three DT next year that will be free agents (Babs, Peter and Jerry). At some point in time we have to start having the discussion what are we going to do at the position. Bryant is young, fairly priced and provides pass rush along with a big body to help in the run game.

As it was mentioned before this is everyone's opinion this is just mine.

My question for you guys is at what point are you going to say hey Owens is not our guy? This would be his 5th year on the team longest tenure of any of our DB yet he is our biggest least utilize one. That's not my opinion its the coach's. Slay, Gamble and Hawthorne are all better options at the position.

Matthews has 6 tck for his career.

Ewing again has never played a game.

Owens only value is in the slot and I'm sorry but McClain has shown in one year that he is far better option.

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This is just bad. Why would we cut Ewing when he isn't expensive, never played a regular season game, is only 23 years old and could end up being our starting FB for the next 10+ years? Makes absolutely no sense, especially when you consider how important a FB has been to our running game with Mughelli's absence being felt and Cox being such a massive improvement over Polite. Then you cut Cliff Matthews, the only young DE on the roster who's shown promise under Nolan, again only 23 years old, could develop into a starter, and is a solid backup. You have us letting 3 CBs go and signing, of all people, Chris Gamble to replace them? Gamble is coming off of an even more recent injury than Grimes. I understand your point being that we don't necessarily need Robinson AND Grimes, but we absolutely 100% need ONE OF THEM to come back to play opposite Asante. In a perfect world, we use the one year injury to re-sign Grimes to a bit of a more modest contract that's just loaded with incentives and he comes back and returns to his 2011 form. If we can't manage that then Robinson should be brought back under a restructure that gives us more cap space to work with.

We're losing Tony Gonzalez and Michael Palmer and replacing them with Benjamin Watson? That's IT? Seriously. You realize Watson is only 6'3, right? Matt Ryan likes being able to throw high to his TE so he can climb the stairs and go get it, so you have us bringing in a speed/stretch the field guy at TE to replace our possession/high point/jump ball TE. I just don't get that move at all. Why would we cut Mike Peterson and Rob James? Peterson is valuable to the locker room and comes cheap while James is an excellent special teamer and shows promise as a defender.

To address the draft trade, I always feel like trading down in a mock draft is the ultimate cop out. "I can't figure out how to address our positions of need in the picks alotted, I'll just do a trade down to get more of them". Has Thomas Dimitroff ever traded down? EVER? I don't think he has. I know he traded up in 2008 to get Baker, 2010 to get Franks, and then 2011 to get Julio. The only time we've ever traded down in this regime was this past season in the 3rd round when we traded back with Baltimore, picked up their 5th and took Lamar Holmes. Every single year our fans want for us to trade down and stockpile picks, and every single year it doesn't happen, or the exact opposite happens and we trade up and lose picks. Work with what you know we have, not with what you want us to have.

The draft itself is just full of meh. Not a single impact player on that draft that I feel like would come in and take the reigns from day 1 and be in the running for ROY aside from perhaps Escobar who has been projected as a 2nd round pick a lot lately. I do like Mike James but this draft would leave us with a very weak defense. Vince Williams is slow and needs to work in a 3-4 defense or else he's a 2 down LB. The only picks I'd be happy with are Escobar and Mike James.

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This is just bad. Why would we cut Ewing when he isn't expensive, never played a regular season game, is only 23 years old and could end up being our starting FB for the next 10+ years? Makes absolutely no sense, especially when you consider how important a FB has been to our running game with Mughelli's absence being felt and Cox being such a massive improvement over Polite. Then you cut Cliff Matthews, the only young DE on the roster who's shown promise under Nolan, again only 23 years old, could develop into a starter, and is a solid backup. You have us letting 3 CBs go and signing, of all people, Chris Gamble to replace them? Gamble is coming off of an even more recent injury than Grimes. I understand your point being that we don't necessarily need Robinson AND Grimes, but we absolutely 100% need ONE OF THEM to come back to play opposite Asante. In a perfect world, we use the one year injury to re-sign Grimes to a bit of a more modest contract that's just loaded with incentives and he comes back and returns to his 2011 form. If we can't manage that then Robinson should be brought back under a restructure that gives us more cap space to work with.

We're losing Tony Gonzalez and Michael Palmer and replacing them with Benjamin Watson? That's IT? Seriously. You realize Watson is only 6'3, right? Matt Ryan likes being able to throw high to his TE so he can climb the stairs and go get it, so you have us bringing in a speed/stretch the field guy at TE to replace our possession/high point/jump ball TE. I just don't get that move at all. Why would we cut Mike Peterson and Rob James? Peterson is valuable to the locker room and comes cheap while James is an excellent special teamer and shows promise as a defender.

To address the draft trade, I always feel like trading down in a mock draft is the ultimate cop out. "I can't figure out how to address our positions of need in the picks alotted, I'll just do a trade down to get more of them". Has Thomas Dimitroff ever traded down? EVER? I don't think he has. I know he traded up in 2008 to get Baker, 2010 to get Franks, and then 2011 to get Julio. The only time we've ever traded down in this regime was this past season in the 3rd round when we traded back with Baltimore, picked up their 5th and took Lamar Holmes. Every single year our fans want for us to trade down and stockpile picks, and every single year it doesn't happen, or the exact opposite happens and we trade up and lose picks. Work with what you know we have, not with what you want us to have.

The draft itself is just full of meh. Not a single impact player on that draft that I feel like would come in and take the reigns from day 1 and be in the running for ROY aside from perhaps Escobar who has been projected as a 2nd round pick a lot lately. I do like Mike James but this draft would leave us with a very weak defense. Vince Williams is slow and needs to work in a 3-4 defense or else he's a 2 down LB. The only picks I'd be happy with are Escobar and Mike James.

So let me attempt to understand what you don't like about the mock.

CB-Let me start off by asking these two questions. Do you think Robinson is worth the 10 million he is due next year? Do you think Grimes at his age is worth an annual contract for 7-8 million for the next 3-4 years? If your answer is yes to either then we do not need to go any further.

TE-The question is not about replacing Gonzo and Palmer its about replacing Gonzo. The answer to that is there is no replacing the greatest TE but unfortunately we have too. If you look at Ben Watson's career he has been pretty decent even without a quality QB not to mention the NE ties that both he and TD share. I'm sure TD would agree as he probably scouted him. Who care how tall he is, we are not looking for the next Jimmy Graham and Gonzo is not the consider the great TE because of him speed or jump ability. The has great hands and uses his body well. There is only one play this year that Gonzo made that he had to out jump someone and that was teh Saint's game over Lofton. If there is other please remind me most of his plays was was either tough catches or boding the defender. This is the part I get confused you do not like my replacements at TE yet you like my draft pick in Escobar who you think is a 2nd round? Where else is he consider a second round. So you tell me Eifert, Ertz, Reed Kelce, McDonald who are all ranked higher than him are all going in the first two rounds, where do they do that at?

LB-Peterson is older than dirty, literally remember we was a late add last year when Tatpu got hurt Peterson was not suppose to be on the team this year.......James has never and will never be more than what he is at some point we need to address the depth at the position. Greene offers a potential start in the next two years which I'm not certain you notice but we got killed both games in the playoffs because we can't cover the TE position which our LB's has something to do with it. I am willing to place a little wager that Williams will run better than a 4.75 40 (4.68-4.73). Which is plenty fast enough for a mlb, let me remind you Dent ran a 4.78 and we drafted him in the 3rd, Lofton ran a 4.79 and he was a 2nd rounder. I'm just saying..... As you would say have we ever drafted a fast MLB, ever!!!!!

The trade-You question whether TD will ever trade down his history hasn't that. Well if you take that approach, we would have never traded up in the top ten because his history has never proven to do so. Need I remind you this is only his 5th draft not a of time to consider patterns or traits. What I gather from TD is he is always looking to improve the team, if that means trading for a HOF TE or trading future picks to get the impact player he wants, or even trading down to strength the depth of the team that is what he would do.

Impact player-You question impact of the players I mocked, again Greene, Jenkins, Escobar, Mills and Slay I think are all future starters, everyone else could be major contributors/depth.

This is the first in my life I've ever had to defend letting Owens or James walk in free agency. This is a sad day gentlemen.....

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We've trade every year since TD has been GM. All these trades included either first or second.

2008-Baker

2009-Gonzo 2nd in 2010.

2010-Julio 2011

2011-Julio 2012

i would argue three out of the last 5 years we traded. Jones trade went down in 2011, which include future picks.TD didn't trade in 2012(maybe late rounds, don't recall). all trades were trading forward, not backwards. hopefully TD will get a call to move back, and stock up this year but history proves wrong. I'm saying it's funny when people post mocks trading with certain team like it's going to happen. just mock normally unless a trade happens before the draft. so I'm saying, do a normal mock round draft.

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i would argue three out of the last 5 years we traded. Jones trade went down in 2011, which include future picks.TD didn't trade in 2012(maybe late rounds, don't recall). all trades were trading forward, not backwards. hopefully TD will get a call to move back, and stock up this year but history proves wrong. I'm saying it's funny when people post mocks trading with certain team like it's going to happen. just mock normally unless a trade happens before the draft. so I'm saying, do a normal mock round draft.

All mock are fabricated it is just our interpretation on what we would like to see what will happen. I would imagine it should be equal funny for us not to trade and guess who we will pick. If you want to see a normal mock of mine look at version 1-3.

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Garrett Reynolds is the forgotten guy in all of this.

You've done a pretty good gut job on a team that was 10 yards away from going to the SB though.

You do realize Reynolds hasn't been on the Philly since the eagles game, right and lost the start job two games before that.

Some people call it gutting the team I call trimming the fat.

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Trimming the fat isn't letting 15 guys out of a 53 man roster walk thats like 30% of team that was 10 yards away from making the SB.

To me I agree the roster needs to be improved but getting rid of 30% of it would be a catastrophic mistake and bringing in guys who have to aclimate to how we do things and expect to go back to where we went this year.To me if we did what you propose you may as well dig the grave and I'll fill the dirt on top of you because you've buried us with this mock.

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