falcndave Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Someone can do the analysis and let me know if my hunch is right, but it just seems to me that our offensive picks and FA acquisitions work out at a nice rate, but our defensive choices are more, well lets just say, suspect.What is Nolan's background as a personnel guy? Anything to support the hope that he may improve the quality of the defensive players we acquire (FAs and Draftees) moving forward?If so, we could get better just by making good choices with the resources we do have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The Niners are really talented. And everyone on here has been suggesting poaching a few guys from Miami. So I would say he does a decent job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonDell_ Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 He brought alot of the key defensive guys in for the 49ers...he also did wonders for miamis defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 He should help for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookAboutFalcon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Its not all Nolan, he did have scouting departments helping with those other teams. Lets hope our scouting department does its job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 I didn't like the move of picking up Samuel, but it worked well for us. I guess I'll give him a +1 on that one. He's just got to be good enough to keep us from ever making another mistake as horrible as Jerry, or Edwards while he is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I would have thought this is pretty simple really.1. We have a scheme Mike Nolan goes to TD and says I want to improve Area X and Area Y this is what sought of guy I need in each area when it comes to talent to do a job.Pick accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumblesjr Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 should improve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Negatorris Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Yup. He got the Phins some good talent on D, and some of those guys on SF's D are his picks too. He has a huge influence on our offseason moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I can't wait until Nolan gets players that he targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Its not all Nolan, he did have scouting departments helping with those other teams. Lets hope our scouting department does its job.This is true, but the coaches do make the final decisions, and do their own scouting after the scouts are done. I personally think the scouting department needs some kind of a shakeup. Which I think there was a change somewhere if I am not mistaking. Anyways I am not sure how many people make up the scouting department for the Falcons, but whoever is looking at the DL needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falchemist Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Super-confident that Nolan's about to build a battleship. I love our DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I heard him say he believes in fitting the D scheme to the players you haveBUT I've never heard him say what scheme he'd like to have the players forie never heard him said what scheme he preferred to run.. maybe i missed it Edited February 5, 2013 by delaigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Guys brought in under Nolan at San Fran: Ray McDonald Patrick Willis Dashon Goldson Justin Smith Tarell Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Once we snag Lacy, Nolan gets the rest ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzle_NJ Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Guys brought in under Nolan at San Fran:Ray McDonaldPatrick WillisDashon GoldsonJustin SmithTarell BrownWell now that you pointed this out, it makes me feel great about this offseason. I think Dashon Goldson is a vastly underrated player. If we can get players of the caliber of Willis and Smith that would work magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeytonMannings Forehead Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) I heard him say he believes in fitting the D scheme to the players you haveBUT I've never heard him say what scheme he'd like to have the players forie never heard him said what scheme he preferred to run.. maybe i missed itNah, you didn't miss it. Everyone like to make assumptions about what he wants to do and how he's going to change the team to a 3-4, but he's said over and over again he believes in fitting the scheme to the players.And It's a bit a stretch to draw the conclusion that HE is going to bring in better players. Mike Nolan was coach/gm (and he wound up losing the GM title in '07) when he was in San Francisco, and as was pointed out in another post, he had plenty of help. Here, he is a cog in the machine. An assistant coach is always going to get the floor to try to sell his guy, but he's FAR removed from the final decision. Edited February 6, 2013 by PeytonMannings Forehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Well now that you pointed this out, it makes me feel great about this offseason. I think Dashon Goldson is a vastly underrated player. If we can get players of the caliber of Willis and Smith that would work magic Smith I think was one of the big keys too that defense. Justin Smith sucks up multiple blocks and frees Aldon Smith up too wreak havoc. It wasn't a coincidence that Aldon Smith couldn't get another sack after Justin Smith went down at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird35 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think Nolan will have a lot of say so in the draft on the defensive side of the ball, he and TD are going to get this defense fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick0ne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I would have thought this is pretty simple really.1. We have a scheme Mike Nolan goes to TD and says I want to improve Area X and Area Y this is what sought of guy I need in each area when it comes to talent to do a job.Pick accordingly.That's too much like right, Kiwi...................never gonna happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Well now that you pointed this out, it makes me feel great about this offseason. I think Dashon Goldson is a vastly underrated player. If we can get players of the caliber of Willis and Smith that would work magicIt's a lot easier to do that when you are drafting in the top half of the 1st round, or at least using your first round pick.So....we need to give him a defensive player with that first pick, without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Nolan likes his big nasties in the middle of the D. Expect Nolan to be in TD's ear about drafting/signing a big DT to take on multiple blockers and make the others around him better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The interesting question about Nolan's input is would it jibe with what another defensive-minded coach, Mike Smith looks to choose on that side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick0ne Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 The interesting question about Nolan's input is would it jibe with what another defensive-minded coach, Mike Smith looks to choose on that side of the ball.Would be interesting to see the dialogue between the two....Nolan likes space eaters and Smith leans towards smaller quicker D-lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Smith needs to give Nolan carte blanche IMHO ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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