Clark Kent™ Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) If i've said it once i've said it a million times. Travis Kelce.30. Atlanta Falcons -- TE Travis Kelce, Cincinnati This will surprise some, but as an inline option I prefer Kelce to Eifert. I need to give credit to Dane Brugler os CBS Sports for calling Kelce the class’ top senior tight end a couple months ago. He would have shown everyone that ability at the Senior Bowl, but Kelce is extremely talented. This might not be popular right now, but throughout the process expect Kelce to be introduced in the top-50 discussion. Edited February 5, 2013 by Clark Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Topdrew Bottom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I like him better then Eifert and Ertz as well. Hoping for him or Reed in the 2nd. Edited February 5, 2013 by Cam Topdrew Bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 I like him better then Eifert and Ertz as well. Hoping for him or Reed in the 2nd.Kelce and Reed are 2 totally different TE's. Reed would struggle mightily lining up inline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Him at 30 ? come on man that won't happen, for one we probably won't be going TE for two even if Kelce will be high on TD's draft board they won't take him in the first he has a third/second round grade, that would be pure stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Topdrew Bottom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) Kelce and Reed are 2 totally different TE's. Reed would struggle mightily lining up inline.Yeah I want him as more of an oversized WR. In the Aaron Hernandez mold.I think Reed and Kelce will be the most productive TEs from this draft. Edited February 5, 2013 by Cam Topdrew Bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Him at 30 ? come on man that won't happen, for one we probably won't be going TE for two even if Kelce will be high on TD's draft board they won't take him in the first he has a third/second round grade, that would be pure stupidity.You have no clue if we go TE early or not. Just because some team has him as a 2nd or 3rd round grade doesn't mean TD will have him there. He has reached for players way before their grade. Holmes had a LATE round grade. He might even had a UDFA grade and we took him pretty early. The guy even mentioned how his stock is going to continue to rise throughout the draft process. If he goes to the combine and runs a projected 4.6-4.7 this his stock is going to soar. Lol pure stupidity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 how is it not ? you literally just said yourself it will be a reach? why would you reach in the first round ? come on now, everyone under the sun knows this team needs defense, even if TE is a need their are a ton in free agency and their is a ton in the draft. No reason to reach at 30 for a guy that most teams have rater as a second and third round player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 how is it not ? you literally just said yourself it will be a reach? why would you reach in the first round ? come on now, everyone under the sun knows this team needs defense, even if TE is a need their are a ton in free agency and their is a ton in the draft. No reason to reach at 30 for a guy that most teams have rater as a second and third round player.I never said he was a reach. Where did i say that? You claimed he has a 2nd-3rd round grade RIGHT NOW. Well this writer seems to agree he will be a top 50 player by the time the draft process is near its end. A guy who has Gronkowski level potential would be WELL worth the pick. And TD has "reached" before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 You have no clue if we go TE early or not. Just because some team has him as a 2nd or 3rd round grade doesn't mean TD will have him there. He has reached for players way before their grade. Holmes had a LATE round grade. He might even had a UDFA grade and we took him pretty early. The guy even mentioned how his stock is going to continue to rise throughout the draft process. If he goes to the combine and runs a projected 4.6-4.7 this his stock is going to soar. Lol pure stupidityNFL scout consensus on Holmes was 4th round and TD took him late 3rd- that's not much of a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Topdrew Bottom Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 how is it not ? you literally just said yourself it will be a reach? why would you reach in the first round ? come on now, everyone under the sun knows this team needs defense, even if TE is a need their are a ton in free agency and their is a ton in the draft. No reason to reach at 30 for a guy that most teams have rater as a second and third round player.How do you know teams have him as a second or third rounder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam25 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I never said he was a reach. Where did i say that? You claimed he has a 2nd-3rd round grade RIGHT NOW. Well this writer seems to agree he will be a top 50 player by the time the draft process is near its end. A guy who has Gronkowski level potential would be WELL worth the pick. And TD has "reached" beforeso a guy not in the top 50 we should draft at 30 ? makes sense, it's reach no matter how you look at it, Eifert and Ertz are the top two ranked for a reason, and basically he will have good combine numbers right ? so we should judge them off that ? interesting, Me personally I like to look at the volume of work they did in college, Eifert in this system would be a solid pro bowl TE, not saying kelce wouldn't be but the risk of taking Eifert at 30 since he's the top rated for his position far out weighs reaching for a TE that is top 5 in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Aint buying that pick at 30 when we need to improve our O and D line, would rather just go with a FA TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumblesjr Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 not going to happen. TE's aren't worth a first round pick. he'll be there in the 4th/5th round, watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssippifalcon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 No thanks, i wouldnt mind him being drafted, but surely not in the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm still not positive we draft early TE at all. I am positive that we want to replace TGs production (or supplement it if he goes 1 more year). I still think we go WR early. A big , fast YAC monster.We are woefully thin past JJ and Roddy. Yes, I know having 2 number 1s are a luxury. But we relly ont have a legit #3 ...HD is not consistent. Him as a #1 or #2 option would be horridWe go wr early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I think we go defense first. TD tried to pry Charles Johnson away from Carolina which tells me TD knows we need a pass rush. I like Kelce but not in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm still not positive we draft early TE at all. I am positive that we want to replace TGs production (or supplement it if he goes 1 more year). I still think we go WR early. A big , fast YAC monster.We are woefully thin past JJ and Roddy. Yes, I know having 2 number 1s are a luxury. But we relly ont have a legit #3 ...HD is not consistent. Him as a #1 or #2 option would be horridWe go wr earlyawful idea. we can pick up a capable #3 late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 NFL scout consensus on Holmes was 4th round and TD took him late 3rd- that's not much of a reach.Wrong lol draftscout has him 6-7thhttp://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=108623&draftyear=2012&genpos=OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 so a guy not in the top 50 we should draft at 30 ? makes sense, it's reach no matter how you look at it, Eifert and Ertz are the top two ranked for a reason, and basically he will have good combine numbers right ? so we should judge them off that ? interesting, Me personally I like to look at the volume of work they did in college, Eifert in this system would be a solid pro bowl TE, not saying kelce wouldn't be but the risk of taking Eifert at 30 since he's the top rated for his position far out weighs reaching for a TE that is top 5 in the first round.You obviously are not understanding. You don't know where his stock will be once it is all said and done. Some think he right now is the best overall TE prospect. You need to get the "reach" business out of your mind. Its too early to say anything about that. His grade has already went from 4th on alot of peoples board. The guy was not used very much and Cinci. Teams will "reach" on a player if he is higher on THEIR board. Teams don't go by Kiper and McShays draft board bro.Eifert and Ertz are nowhere near the blocker that Kelce isOh look another guy saying he could be the best TE in the draft.http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/42294/321/Watch-Out-For-TE-KelceNow if someone doesn't want to go TE early that is totally understandable, but don't say we won't draft him cause you think he is a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 not going to happen. TE's aren't worth a first round pick. he'll be there in the 4th/5th round, watchLol another quality post by mumbles. Show me mock drafts of him available in the 4th and 5th please. Go ahead. I'll wait..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaptic apoptosis Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I think we go defense first. TD tried to pry Charles Johnson away from Carolina which tells me TD knows we need a pass rush. I like Kelce but not in the first.exactly. That, and the fact that we went out and signed Ray Ray who didn't work out. Obviously they know there is a great need at the DE position. They have been trying to fill it for a few years now. We need to draft along the D line badly and Its beyond hilarious for anyone to think we are going TE in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wrong lol draftscout has him 6-7thhttp://www.nfldrafts...=2012&genpos=OTYou've got a site with him ranked lower. So?not going to bother finding the link, there's a site that has a NFL scouts consensus that had the NFL scouts rating him a 4th rounder. Getting somebody late 3rd round that NFL scout say is a 4th rounder is not a huge reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) You've got a site with him ranked lower. So?not going to bother finding the link, there's a site that has a NFL scouts consensus that had the NFL scouts rating him a 4th rounder. Getting somebody late 3rd round that NFL scout say is a 4th rounder is not a huge reach.I'd like to see a link. And your consensus is no different than a site I posted. What makes your link any better? No one knows what our draft board looks like. We don't go by analysts draft boards. And me saying a guy like Kelce wouldn't be a reach at 30 if the talk is him being in the top 50.Explain how Holmes wasn't a reach and Kelce would if he is projected to be gone before our 2nd round pick.Lamar Holmes CONSENSUS 249th best playerhttp://walterfootball.com/draft2012consensusOT.phpAnything else? Edited February 6, 2013 by Clark Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jluk Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Can't wait till combine. Some of you guys are going to change your mock draft. If we see a flurry for defense position I would be glad to pick up TE that has crazy range or a new rg that can compliment our new rb. Some of the gm has pushed the panic button and moved up to pick their players so it all depends on how desperate coaches get...I hope on our first pick that they will be a pro bowl caliber player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dirty Bird Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Don't know much about Kelce, seems to have nice measurables, but this pick will change when TG comes back.No chance we're spending a pick our first pick on a second TE when we desperately need a RB, DE, DT, and even top shelf CB help more.Plus, the top TEs in next year's draft (ASJ from Washington, CJ from Iowa) would be the top 2 TEs in this year's draft, imo. So we luck out in terms of getting the top talents in the game at positions of need when we need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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