Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 In what ive heard an seen from this message board is that some people dont know what an elite player is an i want to point out your elite group in every sport that invlolves a ballNFL-Peyton Manning,Tom Brady,JJ Watt,Adrian Peterson,Aaron Rodgers,Drew Brees,Ray Lewis,Calvin Johnson,Troy Polumanu,Marshawn Lynch,etc.NBA-Lebron James,Dirk Nowitski,Carmelo Anthony,Chris Paul,Derrick Rose,Kobe Bryant,Dwight Howard,Kevin Love,Kevin Durant,etc.PGA-Tiger Woods,Rory Mcliroy,Phil Mickleson,Bubba Watson,etc.MLB-Alex Rodriguez,Ryan Zimmerman,Pablo Sandoval,Matt Holiday,Evan Longoria,Justin Upton,Roy Halladay,Adrian Gonzalez,Prince Fielder,Joey Votto,Jose,Bautista,Albert Pujols,etc.see what im trying to say is elite players are not exactly the best person on a team,thats like saying cam newton is elite and we all know thats a joke.But what im getting to is that elite players if taken off their team or sport would change that team or the sport it self upside down.Thats why the SB was so important becuase Ray Lewis the best LB possibly ever is done for.Say you took Matt Ryan off ATL we would still be good even if we had a Brandon Weeden,Phillip Rivers,or Christian Ponder at QB same thing goes for Josh Smith for the hawks if we took him away we would still have a over 500 team.So to all that dont know what elite means maybe this will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerswinning Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I don't think we would be the same without Matt Ryan. The kid is smart and not all QBs can run our offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Love the Yankees but A-Rod lost his elite stamp years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I don't think we would be the same without Matt Ryan. The kid is smart and not all QBs can run our offense.Well what im saying is that we would still be good even with a Phillip Rivers or a Alex Smith at qb yes we would decline but not a complete drop off like the vikings would without AP or the patriots without bradyLove the Yankees but A-Rod lost his elite stamp years agoyou get the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonDell_ Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) The falcons went 4-12 before ryan. When he got here they went 11-5 with the same talent.Falcons missed the playoffs in 09 when ryan got injured. If the falcons would still be the same team without ryan they wouldnt have missed the playoffs with roddy white and Tony G.Falcons would be like the lions (maybe a little better) if you took out ryan . They MIGHT go .500 at best. Yeah, they wont turn into the cheifs but neither would the Packers if A-Rod left, or the broncos is Manning left Edited February 4, 2013 by BrandonDell_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ray Lewis, Troy Polamalu, and Marshawn Lynch... uh, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Elite is a matter of opinion. I guarantee you that right now Joe "cool" Flacco is elite to the Baltimore fans right now. Right now if you take Kobe and Dwight off the Lakers they might actually might be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ray Lewis, Troy Polamalu, and Marshawn Lynch... uh, no.See what I mean by a matter of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Your MLB elites are all kinds of wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ray Lewis, Troy Polamalu, and Marshawn Lynch... uh, no.you take Marshawn from Seattle they would be a 8-8 or 5-11 team every year,take Troy from Pittsburgh they would have a terrible defense an we seen what the banged up Steelers team can do NOTHING,and did you seriously say Ray Lewis isnt ELITE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty harrington Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The falcons went 4-12 before ryan. When he got here they went 11-5 with the same talent.Falcons missed the playoffs in 09 when ryan got injured. If the falcons would still be the same team without ryan they wouldnt have missed the playoffs with roddy white and Tony G.Falcons would be like the lions (maybe a little better) if you took out ryan . They MIGHT go .500 at best. Yeah, they wont turn into the cheifs but neither would the Packers if A-Rod left, or the broncos is Manning leftthe 2008 and 2007 falcons were different teams. not the "same talent" gtfoh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The falcons went 4-12 before ryan. When he got here they went 11-5 with the same talent.Falcons missed the playoffs in 09 when ryan got injured. If the falcons would still be the same team without ryan they wouldnt have missed the playoffs with roddy white and Tony G.Falcons would be like the lions (maybe a little better) if you took out ryan . They MIGHT go .500 at best. Yeah, they wont turn into the cheifs but neither would the Packers if A-Rod left, or the broncos is Manning leftWhen i refered to Manning i meant his colts years when they sucked in 2010 an also the broncos made the playoffs with tebow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Your MLB elites are all kinds of wrong.So your telling me Ray Lewis isnt elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 So your telling me Ray Lewis isnt eliteI think he's talking about baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The falcons went 4-12 before ryan. When he got here they went 11-5 with the same talent.Falcons missed the playoffs in 09 when ryan got injured. If the falcons would still be the same team without ryan they wouldnt have missed the playoffs with roddy white and Tony G.Falcons would be like the lions (maybe a little better) if you took out ryan . They MIGHT go .500 at best. Yeah, they wont turn into the cheifs but neither would the Packers if A-Rod left, or the broncos is Manning leftalso the falcons in 2008 had joey harrington jerious norwood justin peele as the main offensive guys.The best player on that team was Roddy White but he wasnt in his prime like he is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think he's talking about baseballinsert facepalm hereIDC ABOUT AMERICAS PAST TIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 insert facepalm hereIDC ABOUT AMERICAS PAST TIMEyou're the one that mentioned MLB "elites", not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think he's talking about baseballYep. Alex Rodriguez hasn't been considered elite in years. Zimmerman isn't elite either since he isn't even the best 3B in the division. I could go on and on, though I will point out Justin Upton. He isn't elite yet, but once he puts it together, which he's very close to, then I'm going to be a very happy Braves fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonDell_ Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 When i refered to Manning i meant his colts years when they sucked in 2010 an also the broncos made the playoffs with tebowBut by your logic an elite player is someone you take off of a team and the team would then suck.Texans wouldnt suck without JJ WattPackers would suck without A-RodBroncos wouldnt suck without P.ManningGiants would suck without eli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 But by your logic an elite player is someone you take off of a team and the team would then suck.Texans wouldnt suck without JJ WattPackers would suck without A-RodBroncos wouldnt suck without P.ManningGiants would suck without eliagain i was referring to colts years with peyton and the texans would be alot worse without watt he was an MVP contender this year,and i forgot to mention eli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leowolf Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 ,Troy Polumanu,Marshawn Lynch,etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leowolf Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 So your telling me Ray Lewis isnt eliteno longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 no longerhes a 1st ballot hof so say what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leowolf Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 hes a 1st ballot hof so say what you wantso is Tony G and Ed Reed and both are off your list . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_boi_j Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 hes a 1st ballot hof so say what you wantwell, technically since he is retiring, we can no longer consider him an elite player because he's not playing anymore. We can say he was elite though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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