The O.D.B Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is a request to the photo and video gurus. Can one of you put together a pic showing the Roddy / Crabtree holds side by side? Not that it matters in the big scheme of things but, from memory Roddy got mugged and Crabtree got touched. I'm sure some of our guys would love to pop the pic over on the 9ers boards every few minutes.Anyway, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izo#2883 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I could see myself use some spare time to pop it on their mb once or twice.. an hour.Especially since they repeatedly continued to come here and spewed crap about us taking defeat like a man, regardless of the non Call on Bowmann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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birdz4i Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 i d say crabtree was more than touched, dude had a handful of the back of his jersey. but crabtree also had 2 hands on dude and 1 of em all over his facemask on his push off. so either it was a no call or off setting penalties if called correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 In order to make a determination, our members would have to know the rules. And they mostly don't, so it would be pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 i d say crabtree was more than touched, dude had a handful of the back of his jersey. but crabtree also had 2 hands on dude and 1 of em all over his facemask on his push off. so either it was a no call or off setting penalties if called correctly.The dude actually had both arms wrapped around crabtree. I mean...if it wasn't PI, then PI doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The dude actually had both arms wrapped around crabtree. I mean...if it wasn't PI, then PI doesn't exist.yeah but like i said crabtree had his hands all over him as well on his attempted push off for separation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 yeah but like i said crabtree had his hands all over him as well on his attempted push off for separationYeah WRs are going to try and push a guy away when they are locked in an illegal bear hug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Bowman was hugging Roddy...no call. It's the playoffs. Those calls are not going to get called it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Wall Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I had them side by side at home on my tv Whites really was worse and that's not being a homer. It was a good no call on Crab he was holding as well. Off set pentaly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My heart doesn't bleed for the Niners. I didn't really care who won the game last night.And I'm done talking about the Bowman play with Roddy too.And I don't really have much desire to discuss the Smith / Crabtree play much longer.That being said....this is blatant textbook defensive holding. It is holding regardless of if the ball is in the air or not, or whether or not the player is 5 yards off the line of scrimmage. You simply are not allowed to do, as it is explicity written in the NFL rule book, what Jimmy Smith did on this play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I LIKE IT!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My heart doesn't bleed for the Niners. I didn't really care who won the game last night.And I'm done talking about the Bowman play with Roddy too.And I don't really have much desire to discuss the Smith / Crabtree play much longer.That being said....this is blatant textbook defensive holding. It is holding regardless of if the ball is in the air or not, or whether or not the player is 5 yards off the line of scrimmage. You simply are not allowed to do, as it is explicity written in the NFL rule book, what Jimmy Smith did on this play.not allowed to hit a qb late out of bounds either but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Pimp Named Slickback™ Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Well, maybe we can now move on from 4th and 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconrej Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Here is the side by side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Here is the side by side...Very nice .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane#7 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am not good with photoshop but I can find things...http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2043223/9ERPI.gifhttp://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18dkanpsd5geugif/original.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice5303 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My heart doesn't bleed for the Niners. I didn't really care who won the game last night.And I'm done talking about the Bowman play with Roddy too.And I don't really have much desire to discuss the Smith / Crabtree play much longer.That being said....this is blatant textbook defensive holding. It is holding regardless of if the ball is in the air or not, or whether or not the player is 5 yards off the line of scrimmage. You simply are not allowed to do, as it is explicity written in the NFL rule book, what Jimmy Smith did on this play. sorry, but what is that on the left side of the CB's helmet, why its Crabtrees hand pushing his head away, which then both hands work their way to pushing off the body, they were both fighting, but the CB cant even look up to find the ball because of Crabtree, either way PEOPLE, its a mute point, the ball wouldn't have been caught IN BOUNDS, even San Frans radio announcers said so, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 sorry, but what is that on the left side of the CB's helmet, why its Crabtrees hand pushing his head away, which then both hands work their way to pushing off the body, they were both fighting, but the CB cant even look up to find the ball because of Crabtree, either way PEOPLE, its a mute point, the ball wouldn't have been caught IN BOUNDS, even San Frans radio announcers said so,Dude, he has him in a bear hug man lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice5303 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Dude, he has him in a bear hug man lol.Dude, hes pushing his helmet to the right and down, go watch any game, CBs and WRs hand battle/wrap arms around the body all the time, they don't push each others helmets away, would the CB have been able to look for the ball on that play?? still answer the question, would Crabtree have been able to catch the ball and come down with both foot, NO Edited February 4, 2013 by Ice5303 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Dude, hes pushing his helmet to the right and down, go watch any game, CBs and WRs hand battle/wrap arms around the body all the time, they don't push each others helmets away, would the CB have been able to look for the ball on that play?? still answer the question, would Crabtree have been able to catch the ball and come down with both foot, NOU can look at the GIF posted two post above. Crabtree didn't try to push him off until he was already in the bear hug.And that's not normal hand fighting. That is the textbook definition of defensive holding, and fits pass interference rules under 4 of the 7 standards as well.So it was a penalty 5 different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice5303 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am not good with photoshop but I can find things...http://assets.sbnati...43223/9ERPI.gifhttp://img.gawkerass...if/original.gif one thing I never noticed about the Roddy shot, I saw that the ball was thrown behind him, if without the holding, Roddy would have to make a crazy one handed behind him catch, but thing is, does the Ref block the view of Ryan? I wonder if Ryan leads him..with no ref in the way, Roddy makes the catch,, now if he gets the yards????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Both are bad no-calls. Poor officiating no 2 ways about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescbr Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Dude, hes pushing his helmet to the right and down, go watch any game, CBs and WRs hand battle/wrap arms around the body all the time, they don't push each others helmets away, would the CB have been able to look for the ball on that play?? still answer the question, would Crabtree have been able to catch the ball and come down with both foot, NOI believe defensive holding is defensive holding regardless of ball being in the air....which means it does not have to be a catchable ball for defensive holding, only for pass interference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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