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Falcons may have a hard time getting a publicly-funded stadium

Posted by Mike Florio on January 12, 2013, 5:35 PM EST

The Falcons had been making progress toward striking a deal for a venue that would replace the 20-year-old Georgia Dome with a building that would be partially funded by public money.

That could be changing.

Greg Bluestein and Leon Stafford of theAtlanta Journal-Constitution explain that public resistance to the use of taxpayer funds will make it harder to get a deal done.

“It’s hard to get lawmakers to vote for something that’s polling 70-to-30 no,” Governor Nathan Deal said. “They need to directly communicate with the public. Either way the public attitude has to be significantly changed from where it is now.”

The team could be planning to do that. Falcons President Rich McKay said the Journal-Constitution via email that “we do plan to take a more direct and aggressive stance with Georgia residents and their legislators in the coming weeks.”

For the Falcons, the “or else” won’t be the time-honored threat to move. Instead, the team’s Plan B would be building an open-air facility of its own, which then would compete with the Georgia Dome directly for other events.

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I doubt we would have this much of a problem it the new stadium was outdoors that wouldn't cost nearly a billion. But, you guys wanted a retractable roof stadium.

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I doubt we would have this much of a problem it the new stadium was outdoors that wouldn't cost nearly a billion. But, you guys wanted a retractable roof stadium.

GWCC wants the retractable roof...The fans have no say in this. The Falcons proposed an outdoor stadium initially, because the Falcons were expecting to fit the entire bill. GWCC looking to stay involved with the Falcons are the ones who insisted on the retractable roof. The Falcons are fine with leaving the GWCC, but that would be a huge loss for GWCC and the state for that matter. If the state and the GWCC don't get a deal done then we will have an outdoor stadium in the suburbs.

The Dome was built entirely by public money and no one had a problem with it. It replaced an outdated Fulton County Stadium that was 25 almost 26 years old. Guess how old the Dome will be when the lease is up for the Falcons in 4 more years.

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GWCC wants the retractable roof...The fans have no say in this. The Falcons proposed an outdoor stadium initially, because the Falcons were expecting to fit the entire bill. GWCC looking to stay involved with the Falcons are the ones who insisted on the retractable roof. The Falcons are fine with leaving the GWCC, but that would be a huge loss for GWCC and the state for that matter. If the state and the GWCC don't get a deal done then we will have an outdoor stadium in the suburbs.

The Dome was built entirely by public money and no one had a problem with it. It replaced an outdated Fulton County Stadium that was 25 almost 26 years old. Guess how old the Dome will be when the lease is up for the Falcons in 4 more years.

Mr. Blank needs to grow a set and get away from the GWCC.

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Either the city partakes in the revenues that a new stadium generates by giving $300 million or they get left completely out of the picture, Falcons build a $700 million stadium and then have the new hotness as far as hosting other events and the GA Dome sits idle costing the city/state money that will probably surpass the $300 million they could have chipped in over 20+ years. It'd be dumb for the city to not chip in in my opinion, especially when the city residents don't even pay it.

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Mr. Blank needs to grow a set and get away from the GWCC.

IMO Blank actually holds all the cards on this. If the Falcons leave GWCC they (GWCC) will take a huge loss. Blank is trying to do the right thing so that the state, the GWCC and the Falcons all come out winning. Not working with the GWCC and the state could make for bad future relationships.

My question is; Is there a way that the GWCC and the state could rework a lease agreement that would give the Falcons the operating rights that they want in the Dome? I also think that the Dome could be remodeled to accommodate more luxury suites. It's a huge space how could you not work with what you have there?

I'm not going to pretend to know the ins and the outs of this deal, but I do understand the AB is looking to maximize his investment, and that one way or another he will do it. I myself would like to see a new outdoor stadium, but I wouldn't be opposed to the retractable stadium either.

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Either the city partakes in the revenues that a new stadium generates by giving $300 million or they get left completely out of the picture, Falcons build a $700 million stadium and then have the new hotness as far as hosting other events and the GA Dome sits idle costing the city/state money that will probably surpass the $300 million they could have chipped in over 20+ years. It'd be dumb for the city to not chip in in my opinion, especially when the city residents don't even pay it.

Exactly.

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Either the city partakes in the revenues that a new stadium generates by giving $300 million or they get left completely out of the picture, Falcons build a $700 million stadium and then have the new hotness as far as hosting other events and the GA Dome sits idle costing the city/state money that will probably surpass the $300 million they could have chipped in over 20+ years. It'd be dumb for the city to not chip in in my opinion, especially when the city residents don't even pay it.

Based on the comments on AJC blogs, especially the ones about this costing taxpayers $1 billion for a new stadium, it's clear that people really don't understand that this is a good deal. Some of them don't want to understand, and it's clear when others say that the $300M from the hotel/motel tax should be used for "infrastructure" instead, and in the next breath complain about the $200M of other taxes being used for.....INFRASTRUCTURE!

This stadium deal will get done, maybe even as soon as this month. Frankly, I can't wait, especially since Blank is putting$700M+ and fans of the Seagulls and Aints, etc., are paying the rest!

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Based on the comments on AJC blogs, especially the ones about this costing taxpayers $1 billion for a new stadium, it's clear that people really don't understand that this is a good deal. Some of them don't want to understand, and it's clear when others say that the $300M from the hotel/motel tax should be used for "infrastructure" instead, and in the next breath complain about the $200M of other taxes being used for.....INFRASTRUCTURE!

This stadium deal will get done, maybe even as soon as this month. Frankly, I can't wait, especially since Blank is putting$700M+ and fans of the Seagulls and Aints, etc., are paying the rest!

Lots of ignorance in America now, and those people are the loudest. I think it's a fair offer by the Falcons. They are fronting most of the bill and allowing the city to get some of the cut if they choose to. If not, oh well.

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Based on the comments on AJC blogs, especially the ones about this costing taxpayers $1 billion for a new stadium, it's clear that people really don't understand that this is a good deal. Some of them don't want to understand, and it's clear when others say that the $300M from the hotel/motel tax should be used for "infrastructure" instead, and in the next breath complain about the $200M of other taxes being used for.....INFRASTRUCTURE!

This stadium deal will get done, maybe even as soon as this month. Frankly, I can't wait, especially since Blank is putting$700M+ and fans of the Seagulls and Aints, etc., are paying the rest!

I hate reading the blogs about this on the AJC. People clearly don't understand and the AJC seems to perpetuate the ignorance. The reality is that one way or another the Falcons are getting a new stadium. The ignorant ones just want to believe that there is some kind greedy play by Blank, when in fact he and his team are looking to do something that is beneficial to everyone involved.

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I hate reading the blogs about this on the AJC. People clearly don't understand and the AJC seems to perpetuate the ignorance. The reality is that one way or another the Falcons are getting a new stadium. The ignorant ones just want to believe that there is some kind greedy play by Blank, when in fact he and his team are looking to do something that is beneficial to everyone involved.

I'm glad someone understands this. Most of the geniuses on the blogs haven't set foot in downtown Atlanta in a decade, and say "Blank should just move the team." Obviously, none of them care about the team or the city. And the geniuses wanting the stadium in the burbs clearly don't realize people live south, east, and west of downtown. How thoughtful!

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If they'd just get casinos into Underground Atlanta, then that would fund it and the Hope Scholarship.

Something else that makes tons of sense, but which people shoot down blindly. Imagine the food, concerts, and tourism dollars that would bring. People only focus on crime and gambling problems, but somehow casinos elsewhere are doing just fine, even in large cities.

This city can't get out of its own way sometimes, thanks to people with no vision sh|tting on every good idea.

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what I'm reading mostly is that most have no clue, and just can NOT seem to understand, that without the stadium deal, the hotel/motel tax doesn't exist, and the money won't be availble for anything, not a stadium, not infrastructure, nothing! I'd be willing to bet that more will be done on infrastructure types of things IF a new stadium is built than there will be without.....

but one thing the last two elections have made me believe all the more, never underestimate the power of stupid in large numbers

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Really, what is that bad about the Dome? Its been a while since I was there, and I have not been there regularly since the 2006 season, but the Dome wasn't that bad of a facility from what I remember. I've heard the "it's old" argument and the "NFL won't play a superbowl here without a newer stadium" and both of those arguments are bogus. Stadiums are built to last longer than 20 -25 years, so structurally, the it's old just doesn't play out. The NFL/super bowl argument is just as bogus. The NFL doesn't want to come back to Atlanta because of the cities inability to handle a little ice storm like the one that happened at the last super bowl. And, the NFL still obviously plays super bowls in older facilities, just look at this year's location.

Just an opinion from a guy who doesn't live in GA anymore, there has already been 514 million invested into the GA Dome, and there is a lot of life left in that building, why scrap it and start over and have the same thing happen 15-20 years from now?

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