Robb4242 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 There are a few teams are doing some things with success at the DT/DE positions that is really the opposite of what we did this year, and in years past. Look at teams like the NY Giants (which have been doing this for years), Houston (w/ JJ Watt), & Cincinnati (w/ Geno Atkins). They take big DE's and play them often inside as a DT and it really gives them a good pass rush from the interior. These guys are strong enough to overpower 1-on-1 blocking from OGs or OCs and they are athletic & quick enough to get to the QB. This requires a double team which frees up outside rushers, and if the OL adjusts because the outside rushers are getting there, then the DE playing DT gets the pressure inside again. It's actually much better to get a big push in the middle because the QB wants to step up in the pocket, and if it collapses from the middle, it makes it much harder for the QB. For us, what we've done is try to take our DTs and put them at DE. We've had to do this because of a couple of reasons. One is poor run D and tackling and the second is a lack of quality depth (at least our coaching staff doesn't seem to feel like our DE backups are good enough to put on the field looking at who we play & the number of snaps our backup DEs get). This is the complete opposite of what the good pass rushing teams mentioned above are doing. As a result, we've had less than stellar results rushing the passer.If you look at all of the draftniks rankings, they obviously favor the smaller weight, speed pass rushing DEs. We could definitely use a player like that. But, what I would like to see us do is get a combo type player. Get a bigger guy who is capable of collapsing the pocket from the inside when lining up at DT. We do like guys who can play multiple positions, but I don't like moving Babs to DE, I'd rather move a DE inside.There are some guys in this draft who I think would be a good fit, although I do want to see how they perform strength-wise at the combine or pro-day. Many would consider these guys 3-4 DEs, but it's been proven that you can use these players as a DT and it will boost the pass rush in multiple ways. The keys are though that they have to be exceptionally strong and athletic enough to get to the QB consistently from the DT spot.Margus Hunt, DE, SMUEzekiel Ansah, DE, BYUBaker Steinkuler, DE, NebraskaDatone Jones, DE, UCLADamion Square, DE, Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Which is why I want Ansah! And for all his lack of experience.... what he does have is experience at: DE, DT, NT, and OLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaptic apoptosis Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 kind of why this guy intrigues me a little Joe Vellano DT/DE Maryland. He had 94 tackles as a D lineman in 2011. Undersized hybrid type of guy.Vellano is a productive player because of his nonstop motor, quickness off the snap and hard work as the coaching staff raves about his dedication on the practice field, in the weight room and in the film room. And if he can build upon his All-American season from last year, look for Vellano to be a riser leading up to the 2013 NFL Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 kind of why this guy intrigues me a little Joe Vellano DT/DE Maryland. He had 94 tackles as a D lineman in 2011. Undersized hybrid type of guy.Vellano is a productive player because of his nonstop motor, quickness off the snap and hard work as the coaching staff raves about his dedication on the practice field, in the weight room and in the film room. And if he can build upon his All-American season from last year, look for Vellano to be a riser leading up to the 2013 NFL Draft. Simon from Ohio State is that same tweener guy I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaptic apoptosis Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Simon from Ohio State is that same tweener guy I like.Vellano is more of a DT/DE hybrid. I don't think Simon could play DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Vellano is more of a DT/DE hybrid. I don't think Simon could play DT. He is a little light. He has played DT at Ohio State but if you put him in on a passing down at DT I think he will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I like Ansah, Hunt, and Jones. I've mocked the first two as our first picks already and I still want them as our first picks. Don't think you can go wrong there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 If you're into this then you would really like Will Sutton for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon90 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 If you're into this then you would really like Will Sutton for next year Dang I forgot about him. He would really be a good fit in that type of D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Sharrif Floyd & Sheldon Richardson both fill this role as they move around on the DL and can generate pressure from any position across the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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