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Is the amount of total yards(rushing and receiving) that Quizz got on 147 touches. That is a 5.2 average yard gain per touch. I know a lot of posters like Quizz and I also know that a lot of posters have reservations about Quizz, so do these numbers make you like him more or do they make you have even more reservations?

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And it shows that the run blocking is good enough for us to have a running game. Not the best, but efficiently. Quizz would have 1100 yards if he got the same amount of carries Turner did.

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And it shows that the run blocking is good enough for us to have a running game. Not the best, but efficiently. Quizz would have 1100 yards if he got the same amount of carries Turner did.

Bush it.

At 3.9 ypc he would have had 866 yards with Turner's 222 carries. That's 66 more yards than Turner and I guarandamteeyou he wouldn't have had 10 rushing TDs.

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And it shows that the run blocking is good enough for us to have a running game. Not the best, but efficiently. Quizz would have 1100 yards if he got the same amount of carries Turner did.

Nah. The OP has created a confusing number by combining receptions and rushes to calculate a yards per touch. If Quiz had the same number of carries as Turner at his current yards per carry, he'd have 854 yards.

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Quizz is a RB that, from my perspective, has been hyped up to be more than what he actually is. I appreciate Quizz and all he contributes as one of our RBs. He is very serviceable and a vital piece of our offense. We need him to change up the pace and offer a different look than what Turner brings to the table. He is a great complement to Turner and can go off a moment's notice. Great draft pick and great value!

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Rodgers had 3.9 ypc avg rushing

Turner had 3.6 ypc avg rushing

Snelling had 3.5 ypc avg rushing

that's a 0.4 ypc avg difference ======14.4 inches difference between the 3RBs

(less than 11 inches between Rodgers and turner)

The league average is over 4.1 ypc avg rushing (just going by an announcer's statement Sat)

That means all 3 runners are below NFL average

Now who do we blame

1. the runners themselves

2. The RB coach

3. The O-line

4. the O-line coach

5. you name someone else Nolan Smith Dimetroff Blank

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Rodgers had 3.9 ypc avg rushing

Turner had 3.6 ypc avg rushing

Snelling had 3.5 ypc avg rushing

that's a 0.4 ypc avg difference ======14.4 inches difference between the 3RBs

The league average is over 4.1 ypc avg rushing (just going by an announcer's statement Sat)

That means all 3 runners are below NFL average

Now who do we blame

1. the runners themselves

2. The RB coach

3. The O-line

4. the O-line coach

5. you name someone else Nolan Smith Dimetroff Blank

Excellent post.

I blame the genius, Dimi. That mofo is absolutely clueless when it comes to Olinemen. He has hamstrung the RBs, RB coach, Oline coach and overall running game with his inept decisions. Folks our running game has been Dimitroffed.

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Rodgers had 3.9 ypc avg rushing

Turner had 3.6 ypc avg rushing

Snelling had 3.5 ypc avg rushing

The league average is over 4.1 ypc avg rushing

That means all 3 runners are below NFL average

Now who do we blame

1. the runners themselves

2. The RB coach

3. The O-line

4. the O-line coach

5. you name someone else Nolan Smith Dimetroff Blank

I do not say blame anyone. I think people are missing the whole ship in placing blame anywhere. Consider this: The Falcons were a top rushing team in the league (top 5) for each of the previous four seasons under MM. Their rushing defense was also tops in the league during that same time span under BVG. Enter Koetter and Nolan. They wanted to fix our weaknesses. . . . pass defense for Nolan and pass blocking for Koetter and the new o-line coach. Well, we fixed those things. However, what were once our strengths became our weaknesses in the same season and vice verse.

We spent the off-season focusing on strengthening our weaknesses and it shows. We became much better in pass defense and our o-line has become better in pass protection. We need our o-line to revamp their run blocking and run assignments while not neglecting their progress in the passing game. If we are going to blame anything or anyone, I would say that is a fallacy and irrational typical of what we as people do when we hit a few bumps in the road. We must adapt and overcome. That is apart of life and it is no different than in the NFL. We can work our deficiencies and weaknesses during the off-season, just as we and every other team does every off-season. The issues we have WILL take the course of an entire off-season. Again, it aint about blaming or finger pointing, but about our coords enhancing our strengths and overcoming our weaknesses.

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Quizz would be a good 3rd RB. I hope he's the only back retained next year. He's fairly quick, but you can have a guy just as quick and much stronger at the primary spot, and a very powerful guy who has some quickness at the 2nd spot. Quizz is pretty good, but not quite there on either--doesn't have the speed to break it long, or the power to run through someone (he'd be the 4th RB on SF for instance), so he makes a good 3rd RB.

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Quizz would be a good 3rd RB. I hope he's the only back retained next year. He's fairly quick, but you can have a guy just as quick and much stronger at the primary spot, and a very powerful guy who has some quickness at the 2nd spot. Quizz is pretty good, but not quite there on either--doesn't have the speed to break it long, or the power to run through someone (he'd be the 4th RB on SF for instance), so he makes a good 3rd RB.

You do make a good point about Quizz. His elusiveness is by far his strongest attribute. I'm among those who have serious reservations concerning him being able to step up to be the Falcons bell cow at RB after this season. As far as Quizz being the only RB retained next year, I think we have a very good, versatile RB with Snelling. We've also got a quality prospect in Ewing who got hurt before he could show his value. I'm thinking we need a new number-one RB, maybe somebody with strength and speed like Chris Ivory, and let Turner be the odd man out of the equation next year.

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You do make a good point about Quizz. His elusiveness is by far his strongest attribute. I'm among those who have serious reservations concerning him being able to step up to be the Falcons bell cow at RB after this season. As far as Quizz being the only RB retained next year, I think we have a very good, versatile RB with Snelling. We've also got a quality prospect in Ewing who got hurt before he could show his value. I'm thinking we need a new number-one RB, maybe somebody with strength and speed like Chris Ivory, and let Turner be the odd man out of the equation next year.

I like Snelling, but more at FB. He's an ok back, but he doesn't do anything well. Again, look at SF or NO. Gore is good, Kendall Hunter is like Quizz but much faster and a bit stronger, lamichael James is like Quizz but much more explosive. On NO, all 4 RBs are better than Snelling.

If we keep Quizz and Snelling, there's not a lot of room for error with that "primary back" and there's not a lot of upside to Snelling. I think you can keep him OR Quizz, but you need 2 new backs so at least one will be quality.

It's like keeping Cone and Davis at WR. Unless you think one of those guys is going to become good, they're just taking up space for projects who could become starters. Too many "ok" guys means you're not training up new guys to be starter quality...and that's exactly how I think of Snelling.

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I like Snelling, but more at FB. He's an ok back, but he doesn't do anything well. Again, look at SF or NO. Gore is good, Kendall Hunter is like Quizz but much faster and a bit stronger, lamichael James is like Quizz but much more explosive. On NO, all 4 RBs are better than Snelling.

If we keep Quizz and Snelling, there's not a lot of room for error with that "primary back" and there's not a lot of upside to Snelling. I think you can keep him OR Quizz, but you need 2 new backs so at least one will be quality.

It's like keeping Cone and Davis at WR. Unless you think one of those guys is going to become good, they're just taking up space for projects who could become starters. Too many "ok" guys means you're not training up new guys to be starter quality...and that's exactly how I think of Snelling.

Snelling is a very good receiver and his ability to get YAC is very good.

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JR has been the heart of our ground game this year- very proud of him!

The heart of our ground game? You gots to be fkn kidding me. First of all we didn't have a ground game that was worth a dam. Secondly if anybody was the heart of it it was Michael Turner. Dude had 10 TDs. Quizz had one. Yeah Quizz's 3.9 ypc was higher than Turner's 3.6, but that's because Quizz wasn't carrying the ball in a bunch of goaline, 3rd and short and other known running situations like clock killing drives.
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Snelling is a very good receiver and his ability to get YAC is very good.

Yeah, good for a FB. Point remains if you have Snelling and Quizz as 2 backs, then you don't have a lot of chances for upgrade. If you keep just one (or have Snells at FB), we can get a FA rb and a late draft pick rb and have a chance at a dynamic backfield

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