Sorry If You Are Not Satisfied With Matt Ryan, You Are An Idiot

[GTJeff1975]

Not really. I still know Cam, RG3, Luck, and Bradford are much more talented than Ryan. I named those because they aren't the superstars to know are better than Ryan like Brees, Manning, Rodgers, and Brady. Ryan has a very good skill-set, is extremely consistent, and works hard. I can't argue v. him in that regard and with the set-up of these teams, we might get to the Super Bowl this year. I do feel Ryan is better than every NFC playoff QB outside of Rodgers this year.

BRADFORD??? Bradford is a friggin train wreck. Your logic is the most bone headed I have come across. You probably think Jeff George, DeMarcus Russell, & Ryan Leaf all have more talent than Ryan.

[#1 pick™]

BRADFORD??? Bradford is a friggin train wreck. Your logic is the most bone headed I have come across. You probably think Jeff George, DeMarcus Russell, & Ryan Leaf all have more talent than Ryan.

Who are you?

Regardless of who you are, Bradford has a lot of talent and can make every throw. He just needs to be in ideal situation. His best WR is slightly better than HD83. You have to be real with what players have around them. Why would I think those three have as much talent as Ryan? Those are just big arm QB who were clear busts. Talent isn't tools. Michael Jordan has great talent, JeVale McGee has great tools.

[daybumper]

but this year Eli helped his team to not even making the playoffs and Eli helped his team to get shut out by the Ryan Lead falcons.

The nfl is about what have you done THIS YEAR.

Not last year or 5 years ago.

And Matt Ryan THIS YEAR was head and shoulders above Eli.

When you say someone is BETTER then someone..It means for career and what their careers have totaled. .. Matt Ryan had a better season then Eli but has not had a better career ..thus making him not better than Eli .

[BadMoonRising]

You are this great evaluator of QB's who doesn't by into hype and you thinK RG3 is a more talented passer than Ryan?

Edited December 31, 2012 by BadMoonRising

[#1 pick™]

You are this great evaluator of QB's who doesn't by into hype and you thinK RG3 is a more talented passer than Ryan?

RG3 doesn't really make the reads right now to claim he is better than any vet including Romo, is a superior player to a lot of guys including Ryan but how long will that last?

[Atlfanstckndenver]

Wow this is a great topic for the goon squad to spread their brain dead opinions. (See: trolls)

[GTJeff1975]

Who are you?

Regardless of who you are, Bradford has a lot of talent and can make every throw. He just needs to be in ideal situation. His best WR is slightly better than HD83. You have to be real with what players have around them. Why would I think those three have as much talent as Ryan? Those are just big arm QB who were clear busts. Talent isn't tools. Michael Jordan has great talent, JeVale McGee has great tools.

If you don't see Matt Ryan has talent then you are a moron. If Bradford had talent then he would elevate those players around him & win games, at least according to your previous rant that Rodgers & Brady do that. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US BRADFORD'S TALENT. Quantify it if you will. Ryan can & does make every throw. It doesn't matter what supporting cast you have if you don't have the talent to use them. You can't give

the keys & pit crew of a NASCAR car to an OK driver & expect them to drive it like Jeff Gordon.

Who am I? A loyal Falcons fan for 30+ years who is thankful for to have the BEST QB in this franchise's 46 year history. YOU are obviouslya Ryan hater & a Vick lover that is still mad he washed out here & Philly.

Edited December 31, 2012 by GTJeff1975

[MilleniumFalcon]

My biggest issue is Ryan doesn't make players around him much better like Rodgers, Brees, or Manning does but few QB's do and they have special talent which Ryan doesn't have but for what it is worth, we did a great job of surrounding Ryan with the talent needed for him to continue his maturation process. Kudos to TD for that.

Brady and Brees in the beginning of their careers didn't make players around them better. Ryan's stats in his first five seasons are favorable compared to Brees / Brady. Brady didn't start putting up elite #'s until his 8th season (2007). Ryan will emerge into that category in the next few seasons.

[GTJeff1975]

Brady and Brees in the beginning of their careers didn't make players around them better. Ryan's stats in his first five seasons are favorable compared to Brees / Brady. Brady didn't start putting up elite #'s until his 8th season (2007). Ryan will emerge into that category in the next few seasons.

Brees really didn't do anything until he got with Sean Payton in NO. I completely agree with your last statement too. I am sure that dbag Swift will chime in with his stupidity.

[JulioisCoolio]

My biggest issue is Ryan doesn't make players around him much better like Rodgers, Brees, or Manning does but few QB's do and they have special talent which Ryan doesn't have but for what it is worth, we did a great job of surrounding Ryan with the talent needed for him to continue his maturation process. Kudos to TD for that.

How do you know this exactly? I'm sure it's all Manning that resulted in Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison being two of the best receivers ever....give me a ******* break.

[#1 pick™]

If you don't see Matt Ryan has talent then you are a moron. If Bradford had talent then he would elevate those players around him & win games, at least according to your previous rant that Rodgers & Brady do that. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US BRADFORD'S TALENT. Quantify it if you will. Ryan can & does make every throw. It doesn't matter what supporting cast you have if you don't have the talent to use them. You can't give

the keys & pit crew of a NASCAR car to an OK driver & expect them to drive it like Jeff Gordon.

Who am I? A loyal Falcons fan for 30+ years who is thankful for to have the BEST QB in this franchise's 46 year history. YOU are obviouslya Ryan hater & a Vick lover that is still mad he washed out here & Philly.

a. I am not a moron, watch with the attacks.

b. Matt Ryan has talent. That much is clear.

c. Bradford is still growing as a player, he doesn't just need talent at this point he needs to develop to get to the next level and with that, he needs help.

d. Ryan still has issues with some throws. He can make every throw in practice but in a real game at real speed with real defenses? No.

e. I do not watch NASCAR so I have no clue what you are saying. I do know, you can give a very talented player elite weapons and he can become HOF level. See Kurt Warner.

Ryan is the best QB in franchise history but that is not saying a lot. It's not like we have legendary QB's who did it for the Falcons. How am I a Vick lover much less a Ryan hater? I do not hate Ryan. I actually like him. Vick is like Ryan to me. I treat them the same depending on the convo. I back Ryan all the time in DC, on this board I do not have to, idiots like you say ******** stuff that makes me not have to say nothing at all in that regard.

[#1 pick™]

How do you know this exactly? I'm sure it's all Manning that resulted in Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison being two of the best receivers ever....give me a ******* break.

Manning did make Harrison and Wayne better from jump.

Brady and Brees in the beginning of their careers didn't make players around them better. Ryan's stats in his first five seasons are favorable compared to Brees / Brady. Brady didn't start putting up elite #'s until his 8th season (2007). Ryan will emerge into that category in the next few seasons.

I do agree. They didn't. The rest is where you are using hopeful intuition on which I am not sure on or even see it coming.

[Karst41]

Good Lawdd People.

Ryan finished in the top 5 of almost every noteable QB category.

The Top 2 QB in passing Yards are Brees and Stafford, and both are

not in the playoffs.

Brady, Ryan and Manning are the top 3 guns this year, and if that aint good enough

for any of you, then go hang!

http://sports.yahoo....old_category=QB

[MilleniumFalcon]

Manning did make Harrison and Wayne better from jump.

I do agree. They didn't. The rest is where you are using hopeful intuition on which I am not sure on or even see it coming.

Not really hopeful intuition, everyone said Ryan will be getting better. In 2010, I said Ryan should be a 4500 yard passer 30TD 100QB Rating guy in the next few years. That happened. Now, he's on the progression for the next step, you can see it coming.

[#1 pick™]

Not really hopeful intuition, everyone said Ryan will be getting better. In 2010, I said Ryan should be a 4500 yard passer 30TD 100QB Rating guy in the next few years. That happened. Now, he's on the progression for the next step, you can see it coming.

It's not the numbers, it is about how he played with me. He has improved and that's all I can ask for.

[paulitik]

If you don't see Matt Ryan has talent then you are a moron. If Bradford had talent then he would elevate those players around him & win games, at least according to your previous rant that Rodgers & Brady do that. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US BRADFORD'S TALENT. Quantify it if you will. Ryan can & does make every throw. It doesn't matter what supporting cast you have if you don't have the talent to use them. You can't give

the keys & pit crew of a NASCAR car to an OK driver & expect them to drive it like Jeff Gordon.

Who am I? A loyal Falcons fan for 30+ years who is thankful for to have the BEST QB in this franchise's 46 year history. YOU are obviouslya Ryan hater & a Vick lover that is still mad he washed out here & Philly.

Talent to these idiots is how far you can throw and how fast you can run and that's it. Sam Bradford might be able to throw 2 yards further than Matt, therefore he's more talented. It's swiftlogic.

These guys are the products of a short attention span media that has given us Skip Bayless and the other idiotic debate shows like NFL AM. Lowest common denominator. Playoff loss = Worst QB Ever.

These are unreasonable, unhappy people completely unsatisfied with their lives and have to take it out on the people who are happy with the team.

[Duff_Man]

Swift Bayless in the house.

[BadMoonRising]

RG3 doesn't really make the reads right now to claim he is better than any vet including Romo, is a superior player to a lot of guys including Ryan but how long will that last?

Who knows, he may be awsome as time progresses. Seems like a good dude, and I hope he does grow.

But last night hearing people making him out to be Jehovah the III with him passing average at best with a RB running for a 200+ game got a little overwhelming.

Edited December 31, 2012 by BadMoonRising

[Tuggle'2]

There is a lot of stupid going on in here. lol

[Butudontseeme™]

Ryan's team is probably more dependent on him than any other QB/team relationship in the playoffs right now.

Also, I'm sure if you asked Roddy, Julio, TG, HD, they would all say Ryan has helped them be better players. He D*MN sure has helped the o line be better than they really are, pretty much his entire career.

[#1 pick™]

Ryan's team is probably more dependent on him than any other QB/team relationship in the playoffs right now.

Also, I'm sure if you asked Roddy, Julio, TG, HD, they would all say Ryan has helped them be better players. He D*MN sure has helped the o line be better than they really are, pretty much his entire career.

Huh? I would say all teams in this stage as depended on their QB. Maybe SF is the exception.

[BadMoonRising]

Ryan's team is probably more dependent on him than any other QB/team relationship in the playoffs right now.

Also, I'm sure if you asked Roddy, Julio, TG, HD, they would all say Ryan has helped them be better players. He D*MN sure has helped the o line be better than they really are, pretty much his entire career.

Green bay, NE, and Denver could be argued as well.

[BadMoonRising]

Huh? I would say all teams in this stage as depended on their QB. Maybe SF is the exception.

Flacco's replacement looked like an improvement to me.

[Butudontseeme™]

Huh? I would say all teams in this stage as depended on their QB. Maybe SF is the exception.

You think Seattle, Minny, Washington are as dependent on their QBs as Atlanta? That's crazy talk bro.

[falconsd56]

There is a lot of stupid going on in here. lol

It is a thread about Ryan... what do you expect? intelligent debate?