Ergo Proxy Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Fact is, Atlanta hasn't relied on pass rush this year from a front-4 like other defenses.All this talk is pretty irrelevant seeing as there's nothing to be done but go and win games with what you have right now.Off-season will be pretty much long periods of speculation just like this anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Dog Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 There will be several positions that need attention next year. For now, let's be thankful we got as far as we have with the few issues we are saddled with. Next season is far enough away to put it on the back burner till we get past the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood23 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Alex Okafor, Margus Hunt, or Ziggy are all great. Take them in the first rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioHOFer Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Sign Freeney/Osi, draft an explosive edge rusher in the 1st or 2nd = pass rush fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Its been FINALLY time to get ABE help since the year we signed ABE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Its been FINALLY time to get ABE help since the year we signed ABE!Finally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Finally! Its for real though , we've put a lot on the preds shoulders. He needs help and we've failed to do so since signing him in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergo Proxy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Its for real though , we've put a lot on the preds shoulders. He needs help and we've failed to do so since signing him in the first place.Yep, once Kerney left. Shame that LDE/RDE thing never really worked out.The good thing is we have 2 guys ATM that have been playing behind Abe for a bit now in Matthews and Sidbury. If Abe can't go 100%, he could split some snaps with one of those guys. At least, per the depth charts. It seems the rookie Massaquoi is slotted behind Kroy.As much as I hate to be a 'realist', at least come off that way, I have to be real about this: Abraham has not been relied upon as much as Kroy in some sense this year.Abraham has been kept fresh for his best role on 3rd downs and he DOES still make a huge impact at defending period. However, it's not Pro Bowl caliber Abraham anymore. He's still a very good player, but his snaps 'have' been reduced this year. Atlanta has 'not' won with pass rush this year.Besides? IF it's only a sprain/strain he should be back before we face a passing team.The only potential downside is that he's best in space as far as our DL we are used to seeing. That means we'll miss him helping shut down any read-option QBs or even AP from the backside if we wind up facing Minny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yep, once Kerney left. Shame that LDE/RDE thing never really worked out.The good thing is we have 2 guys ATM that have been playing behind Abe for a bit now in Matthews and Sidbury. If Abe can't go 100%, he could split some snaps with one of those guys. At least, per the depth charts. It seems the rookie Massaquoi is slotted behind Kroy.As much as I hate to be a 'realist', at least come off that way, I have to be real about this: Abraham has not been relied upon as much as Kroy in some sense this year.Abraham has been kept fresh for his best role on 3rd downs and he DOES still make a huge impact at defending period. However, it's not Pro Bowl caliber Abraham anymore. He's still a very good player, but his snaps 'have' been reduced this year. Atlanta has 'not' won with pass rush this year.Besides? IF it's only a sprain/strain he should be back before we face a passing team.The only potential downside is that he's best in space as far as our DL we are used to seeing. That means we'll miss him helping shut down any read-option QBs or even AP from the backside if we wind up facing Minny.I miss Kerney. He was my fav. I still rock the St Pats day jersey. I cannot find them anymore. Kind of like the Spoon shadow jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Edwards was cut weeks ago and signed with Seattle recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayoh Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Kroy is the best run stopper on this team and one of the best in the league, believe it or not.The problem is that now that we're using our magical 3 DT set, he isn't on the field as often in running situations.Kroy Biermann has seen a mere 225 run defense snaps this season. Of those 225, he has 22 stops and only 3 missed tackles. Biermann needs some work in the pass rush department but he is relentless and gets a lot of effort sacks.He isn't Patrick Kerney, but he is our version of Chris Long, and we got him in, what, the 5th round?What we need is a speed rusher to not HELP abe, but REPLACE abe, and come in on obvious passing downs to play opposite Abe until Abe himself retires. None of them are available in this year's free agent market unless one becomes a cap casualty, and that's pretty unlikely if you ask me. Our best bets would be Dwight Freeney or Israel Idonije and they're both already over 30.Jarius Wynn should be a free agent, and he's shown a **** of a lot more in his limited playing time than any of our 3 backup guys. Dude has 2 sacks, 1 hit and 4 hurries in 48 pass rush snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Edwards was cut weeks ago and signed with Seattle recently.I could be wrong but in don't think they went through with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Kroy has been getting more pressure than Abe lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Kroy has been getting more pressure than Abe latelythe thing with kroy is he's never had a problem getting pressure, he just can't finish the play. If kroy could get past the lineman on a consistent basis, dude would easily average 10-15 sacks a year. To me he would be best rushing the passer as a 3-4 olb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehus Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 By the time we get Abe some so call help he will actually end up being Abe's replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 DE will be by far our biggest need on D in the offseason, as it has been for a whileLanding a proven impact DE is the top priorityOsi Umenyiora and Dwight Freeney are 2 that immediately come to mind. Osi is the 3rd DE who says hes a starter not a bench player, wants out, he and Abe would be an outstanding edge rusher comboFreeney is on a team thats going to the playoffs with a bright future so may want to stay but theyve switched to a 3-4 and hes not had a productive season as an OLB. He wants to return to the 4-3 and why not join a team a few years ahead of the Colts as a vet. He and Abe would be devastatingI would much prefer these proven vets over young guys like Cliff Avril and Michael Johnson, both of those play on good DLs just like Ray Edwards and you could end up with the same result. Umenyiora and Freeney are proven individuals who would actually be cheaperI don't think so. We could either get stouter on the DT/34 DE rotation and also add a pass rushing LB. Nolan's defense is not necessarily dependent upon DE pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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