Kayoh Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 When looking at how good a defense is, there are some people that like to look at yards allowed. Some prefer to keep it simple and look at points allowed, since that's what matters when it comes to winning and losing. I prefer a mixture of the two where you divide yards given up by points surrendered to basically find which defenses are the best at bending, but not breaking. Atlanta is currently #1 in that statistic with a very solid 19.79 yards per point, with Seattle just behind them at 19.69. The next closest team is Chicago at 18.68, so it's quite the dropoff from 2-3.This isn't necessarily something to tell you who the "best" defense in the league is, but it definitely tells you who the STINGIEST defense in the league is, and that crown belongs to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Anyone who bashes on this statistic or bashes our Falcons by coming up with excuses can hop off all of our nuts! Big props to the defense!Rise Up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 ?So we are the best at giving up most yards per point? I'll take it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Pretty off the wall stat, I really dont know if it is a good thing or bad thing LOL, but it is interesting to say the least ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlack&Red Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 That was very intrigueing to say the least. I wish I would have thought of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I prefer a mixture of the two where you divide yards given up by points surrendered to basically find which defenses are the best at bending, but not breaking. Atlanta is currently #1 in that statistic with a very solid 19.79 yards per point...it definitely tells you who the STINGIEST defense in the league is, and that crown belongs to us.the better term might be "most FRUSTRATING defense" - stingiest still goes to the team giving up the fewest points (or fewest points AND yards). "Frustrating" fits this stat better because the opponent's offense feels like they can move the ball, but never gets the points those yards would usually imply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I think the yards allowed stat was probably proved worthless last year when the second worst defense of all time went 15-1, the 3rd worst defense of all time was the other number 1 seed and went to the Super Bowl, and the 27th ranked defense in the league won the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus*Crimes Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I think the yards allowed stat was probably proved worthless last year when the second worst defense of all time went 15-1, the 3rd worst defense of all time was the other number 1 seed and went to the Super Bowl, and the 27th ranked defense in the league won the Super Bowl.Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with "Yards Allowed". Really doesn't mean anything if you can't score. They don't give points for a 99yd drive that ends in an INT in the endzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I think the yards allowed stat was probably proved worthless last year when the second worst defense of all time went 15-1, the 3rd worst defense of all time was the other number 1 seed and went to the Super Bowl, and the 27th ranked defense in the league won the Super Bowl.Really puts things into prespective. If the defense continues to play as it has been we will win the Superbowl this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yardage is a deceptive stat. A high-scoring/low turnover team team will tend to give up a lot of yards because they don't play much in their own end and spend a lot of time in two-deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Stats are overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 When looking at how good a defense is, there are some people that like to look at yards allowed. Some prefer to keep it simple and look at points allowed, since that's what matters when it comes to winning and losing. I prefer a mixture of the two where you divide yards given up by points surrendered to basically find which defenses are the best at bending, but not breaking. Atlanta is currently #1 in that statistic with a very solid 19.79 yards per point, with Seattle just behind them at 19.69. The next closest team is Chicago at 18.68, so it's quite the dropoff from 2-3.This isn't necessarily something to tell you who the "best" defense in the league is, but it definitely tells you who the STINGIEST defense in the league is, and that crown belongs to us.That's less than a field goals difference between 1-3. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with "Yards Allowed". Really doesn't mean anything if you can't score. They don't give points for a 99yd drive that ends in an INT in the endzone.sure they do, if the DB runs it back for a score, just ask joe flacco LOL J/K I know the point you're making. very true. all those yards CJ got last week, (and the whole year for that matter) are a perfect example. over 200 yards recieving and no TDs, big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyf714 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 how bout the eye test?? lol i mean we all watched this team all season, is there anyone who DOESN'T have complete faith in Mike Nolan and this defense?? he seems to play vanilla early to see if the front four can get pressure by themselves. If they aren't then he seems to go with a mixture of blitzes and he fixes it. I can care less about stats because you can skew them anyway you want to. I prefer to watch every game and i know we have a very good defense.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The Falcon defense has mastered the art of the rope-a-dope strategy. They let the opposing offense wear itself down between the 20's then finish it off by creating some crucial turn-overs. They don't look intimidating, but when the game is over, they've gotten the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I prefer a defense that's stingy with yards and points. I hate BBDB defenses. Being a Falcon fan I've seen too many of em Smitty, Mora, Swamp Fox and Swamp Fox again. Eventually they break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I prefer a defense that's stingy with yards and points. I hate BBDB defenses. Being a Falcon fan I've seen too many of em Smitty, Mora, Swamp Fox and Swamp Fox again. Eventually they break.Sheet, Wade was just as bad at BBDB, but still some decent defenses he put out IMO ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I prefer a defense that's stingy with yards and points. I hate BBDB defenses. Being a Falcon fan I've seen too many of em Smitty, Mora, Swamp Fox and Swamp Fox again. Eventually they break.You can't have everything, champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordtobigbird Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Those werent bend but don't break defenses. They were just bad defenses. This defense is good, very good. We shutout the giants WITHOUT one of our best defenders. Don't compare Nolan's with those other coordinators crappy schemes. Imagine if Nolan stays here for 3+ years and brings in pieces he wants.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Those werent bend but don't break defenses. They were just bad defenses. This defense is good, very good. We shutout the giants WITHOUT one of our best defenders. Don't compare Nolan's with those other coordinators crappy schemes.Imagine if Nolan stays here for 3+ years and brings in pieces he wants..Nolan is running a classic BBDB. 10 yard cushions, rush four or five, play a shtload of zones, keep the ball underneath, let the offense rack up what Mora used to call "empty yards", then stiffen in the red zone. I'm pretty sure that is a Smitty edict though. Smitty ran the same thing down in JAX and every year up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Nolan is running a classic BBDB. 10 yard cushions, rush four or five, play a shtload of zones, keep the ball underneath, let the offense rack up what Mora used to call "empty yards", then stiffen in the red zone. I'm pretty sure that is a Smitty edict though. Smitty ran the same thing down in JAX and every year up here.Nolans scheme changes each game. That is pretty obvious. You must not watch all the 'tape' you say. Either that or you have no clue what you're watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I was thinking about this the other day. "Bend but don't break" doesn't really describe our defense. Bend but don't break to me is where drives just sort of grind to a halt and result in a FG. Our defense tends to end drives with a bang.The "Bend" is actually more of a compression or spring loading in our defense. It's like pulling back the string on a bow. For the offense, everything seems to be heading in the right direction until the string is released.We are more of a "Bend then break you" defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordtobigbird Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'm pretty sure the game plan isn't let them into the red zone THEN do something. He's trying to constantly confuse and create turnovers. Just because our guys miss tackles to give up yards or we can't win one on ones to get pressure doesn't mean its in the scheme.Zone is just as capable of stopping an offense as man. Playing zone isn't conceding yards if you execute. Its just the safer option to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 He can go from running a BVG one week to a Jim Johnson the next.....next year I think we will go full hybrid on MOFOs..we will know by who we draft ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Nolans scheme changes each game. That is pretty obvious. You must not watch all the 'tape' you say. Either that or you have no clue what you're watching.Bush it. They might show some pre-snap amoeba looks but when that ball is snapped they drop back in the same cover 2 look most of the tme. He occasionally sends a safety or LB but not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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