k-train Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 they might not win 13 but they are alot closer to being a winning team than the vikings would be.Really? Think about all the games we just won by the skin of our teeth. Do you honestly think we would win even half of those games with McClown or Davis at QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 To me the MVP is a player who single handedly elevates an entire teamand gives the team a legitmate shot at the ploaoffs.Typically this also has Team or League records attached.AP more than QualifiesManning QualifiesRyan QualifiesBrady,, uh well if we do not include him in the talks a penaltyplus a fine from Goddell will be handed down.Ryan could care less The Lombardi>MVPSo I say let Ryan be the MVP of the SB so he can give methe fancy car, because Ryan already drives a car that is nicer,and it is a 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh4Real?! Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Horrible thread. All I had to do is read the title. I didn't read any replies or the original post. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 thanks to ponder stinking up the joint, since that wonderful start you were tryin to say he had.But if AP is really super man he should be able to overcome that. Same goes for Calvin Johnson. Oh wait a second. Maybe that proves once and for all that QB is indeed the most important position on the field and has more impact on W/L record than any other position in football. Maybe that's why the MVP almost always goes to a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Horrible thread. All I had to do is read the title. I didn't read any replies or the original post. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Really? Think about all the games we just won by the skin of our teeth. Do you honestly think we would win even half of those games with McClown or Davis at QB?Exactly. The Falcons would be a 5 or 6 win team without Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 But if AP is really super man he should be able to overcome that. Same goes for Calvin Johnson. Oh wait a second. Maybe that proves once and for all that QB is indeed the most important position on the field and has more impact on W/L record than any other position in football. Maybe that's why the MVP almost always goes to a QB.yeah ask matt ryan who was the most important to the team in 08? checkmate, goodnite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 yeah ask matt ryan who was the most important to the team in 08? checkmate, goodnite.This is 2012. Game on. Better take some No-Doze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yes he should. But I think Manning will win it. Although AD is more deserving imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yes he should. But I think Manning will win it. Although AD is more deserving imoWhy do people keep calling this man AD lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 yeah ask matt ryan who was the most important to the team in 08? checkmate, goodnite.Michael Turner was more important to the Falcons in 2008. Sure. This ain't 2008 bro. This is 2012 and the Falcons would be 5-10 without Ryan. Checkmate, Goodnite.Why do people keep calling this man AD lolBecause his nickname is All Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Why do people keep calling this man AD lolBecause that's the nickname he has had most of his life. AD=ALL DAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Peterson is no more deserving than Calvin Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Peterson is no more deserving than Calvin Johnson.Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Oh ok gotcha. I'm glad it isn't Every Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Peterson is no more deserving than Calvin Johnson.if calvin Johnson had about 11 more touchdowns to go with his soon to be 2000 yards that would ake for a great debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALCOHOLIC93 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The MVP award goes to the player who is most valuble to their team. I think AP deserves it hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 they might not win 13 but they are alot closer to being a winning team than the vikings would be.Gruden said the other night the Falcons wouldn't even win 7 gms without Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 AP and Peyton are having a great season, but people are saying how great it is due to their injuries. That's called comeback player of the year. Nobody is saying Calvin is MVP and he just broke a huge record. So if he was hurt last year should he be MVP? No again it's comeback player of the year unless you would give them MVP taking injuries out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yea, no problem. AP has a season ending knee injury, comes back like gangbusters, pushing the bar far above what is a respectable norm for recovery, then proceeds to be the best RB in the land right off the bat without skipping a beat. I dont know where you come from bro, but he has my respect and you'll never see me second guessing the mvp if his name gets called. Good grief... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The MVP award goes to the player who is most valuble to their team. I think AP deserves it hands down.Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 The MVP award goes to the player who is most valuble to their team. I think AP deserves it hands down.This is half correct. judging by the past winners, it goes to a player judged to be the most valuable on a team with a substantial winning record and/or playoff success. If the Viking even make the playoffs and then can win while there, then maybe AP does deserve it "hands down", but until then... nope.previous winners:2011: Aaron Rodgers (15-1)2010: Tom Brady (14-2)2009: Peyton Manning (14-2)2008: Peyton Manning (12-4)2007: Tom Brady (16-0)2006: LaDainian Tomlinson (14-2)2005: Shaun Alexander (13-3)2004: Peyton Manning (12-4)2003: Peyton Manning (12-4) & Steve McNair (12-4)2002: Rich Gannon (11-5)2001: Kurt Warner (14-2)2000: Marshall Faulk (10-6) he had 1359 yards & 18 TDs rushing + 830 yards & 8 TDs receiving1999: Kurt Warner (13-3)1998: Terrell Davis (14-2)1997: Brett Favre (13-3) & Barry Sanders (9-7 made the playoffs) he had 2053 yards & 11 TDs rushing + 305 yards & 3 TDs receivingso, we have to go all the way back to Barry Sanders in 1997 to find a similar situation to AP, and keep in mind that even then , Sanders didn't win the award outright, or "hands down". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 This is half correct. judging by the past winners, it goes to a player judged to be the most valuable on a team with a substantial winning record and/or playoff success. If the Viking even make the playoffs and then can win while there, then maybe AP does deserve it "hands down", but until then... nope.previous winners:2011: Aaron Rodgers (15-1)2010: Tom Brady (14-2)2009: Peyton Manning (14-2)2008: Peyton Manning (12-4)2007: Tom Brady (16-0)2006: LaDainian Tomlinson (14-2)2005: Shaun Alexander (13-3)2004: Peyton Manning (12-4)2003: Peyton Manning (12-4) & Steve McNair (12-4)2002: Rich Gannon (11-5)2001: Kurt Warner (14-2)2000: Marshall Faulk (10-6) he had 1359 yards & 18 TDs rushing + 830 yards & 8 TDs receiving1999: Kurt Warner (13-3)1998: Terrell Davis (14-2)1997: Brett Favre (13-3) & Barry Sanders (9-7 made the playoffs) he had 2053 yards & 11 TDs rushing + 305 yards & 3 TDs receivingso, we have to go all the way back to Barry Sanders in 1997 to find a similar situation to AP, and keep in mind that even then , Sanders didn't win the award outright, or "hands down".take a very good look at Brady and Rodgers touchdowns and interceptions those are the only 2 that I can remember that just had unbelievable seasons as passers. I can't remember anyone else's stats but those 2 stand out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Oh ok gotcha. I'm glad it isn't Every Daylol yeah his father gave him that nickname cause he runs over teams all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 lol yeah his father gave him that nickname cause he runs over teams all daythat let's you know how much sports center I watch and articles I read lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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