Falconsfan567 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 For Christmas I was given a book called 'Bill Walsh The Score Takes Care Of Itself: My Philosophy of Leadership'. So I've read a few pages of it. Then took a break and wanted to look of Bill Walsh's coaching tree and discovered that Mike Smith can be traced all the way back to Bill Walsh. Smith is a product of Brian Billick who's a product of Dennis Green who was a product of Bill Walsh. 32 current or former head coaches can trace their roots all the way back to Walsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 the man was a football genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 the man was a football geniusYes he was. He was ahead of his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octoslash Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Bill Walsh coached Brian Billick who coached in Baltimore which was the setting of the film Diner which starred Kevin Bacon.Works every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sam Wyche isn't part of the Bill Walsh coaching tree, they're both part of the Paul Brown coaching tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) For Christmas I was given a book called 'Bill Walsh The Score Takes Care Of Itself: My Philosophy of Leadership'. So I've read a few pages of it. Then took a break and wanted to look of Bill Walsh's coaching tree and discovered that Mike Smith can be traced all the way back to Bill Walsh. Smith is a product of Brian Billick who's a product of Dennis Green who was a product of Bill Walsh.32 current or former head coaches can trace their roots all the way back to Walsh.That's almost 15% of every HC starting from the late 80's til today. You could also add Ken Wisenhunt from Mike Tomlin, Leslie Frazier from Brad Childress and Jim Caldwell from Tony Dungy. Edited December 25, 2012 by 4dabirds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Bill Walsh was a genius and almost all his football books are highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sam Wyche isn't part of the Bill Walsh coaching tree, they're both part of the Paul Brown coaching tree.Nope, 79-82 he was an asst and QB coach essentially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Nope, 79-82 he was an asst and QB coach essentiallyI know that but I think Paul Brown had more input on Sam Wyche's development as a coach than Bill Walsh did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I know that but I think Paul Brown had more input on Sam Wyche's development as a coach than Bill Walsh did.Would make sense since Mike Mularkey is on that branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I know that but I think Paul Brown had more input on Sam Wyche's development as a coach than Bill Walsh did.He'll one would argue the whole tree is Paul Browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 He'll one would argue the whole tree is Paul BrownsIT IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 He'll one would argue the whole tree is Paul BrownsYes. It does go back to Paul Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Vermeil was pretty legendary, too. Wonder what tree he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOEinPHX Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Where's Kevin Bacon?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Not so sure about Paul Brown in regards to Bill Walsh.If I recall correctly Walsh and Brown had different philosophiestowards the game and butted heads.Walsh broke off from Brown with the opprotunity to be HC in San Fran.With the 49ers he was able to impliment his ideas of the West Coast Offense.If I am correct on this, the above illustrated Tree is 100% correct in thatBrown was not Walshes mentor nor did Walsh follow Brown's Coachingphilosophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Not so sure about Paul Brown in regards to Bill Walsh.If I recall correctly Walsh and Brown had different philosophiestowards the game and butted heads.Walsh broke off from Brown with the opprotunity to be HC in San Fran.With the 49ers he was able to impliment his ideas of the West Coast Offense.If I am correct on this, the above illustrated Tree is 100% correct in thatBrown was not Walshes mentor nor did Walsh follow Brown's Coachingphilosophies.The West Coast offense started in Cincinnati out of necessity when their strong arm QB was injured. Just because Walsh and Brown had their disagreements doesn't mean Walsh was any less part of his coaching tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Vermeil was pretty legendary, too. Wonder what tree he has?George Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The West Coast offense started in Cincinnati out of necessity when their strong arm QB was injured. Just because Walsh and Brown had their disagreements doesn't mean Walsh was any less part of his coaching tree.My point was towards Philosophies, and that Walsh made a clean break from Brownto create his offense, which became a whole new Offensive system that Brown was not a part of.Hence the Walsh coaching tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 George AllenSeem to remember that Vermeil (or maybe Allen) invented film studying and special teams coaching back in the 50s. Could be remembering that wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I looked him up on ancestry.com and traced him all the way back to Adam and Eve. I had no idea I was related to Bill Walsh until now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I've read that book. It gives a fascinating insight in to his philosophy for turning around a horrible football organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 My point was towards Philosophies, and that Walsh made a clean break from Brownto create his offense, which became a whole new Offensive system that Brown was not a part of.Hence the Walsh coaching tree.The coaching tree just shows who coached under Walsh. Not all of those guys ran the Bill Walsh WC offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 I've read that book. It gives a fascinating insight in to his philosophy for turning around a horrible football organisation.Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2000 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Some branches need to be trimmed on that tree. I like Bill Walsh, and what he did for the game speaks for itself. However, doing it like this, you get into we all come from Adam/Eve argument. Walsh goes back to Sid Gillman's tree but not the WCO necessarily.Along with the 3 already mentioned, (Wisenhunt, Caldwell, Frazier) what keeps me from adding Nolan, Singeltary, Raheem Morris, Dennis Allen, Marvin Lewis, R. Rivera, J. Schwarz, and others.They have Jeff Fisher as apart of the tree, and he comes from Buddy Ryan. Tony Dungy is associated with Chuck Knoll. At some point, everybody's paths cross in this league.Those early West Coast/Stanford guys like Green, Holmgreen, Mariucci, Hackett, of course, but then it gets a little hazy. Too many coordinators working for this guy at some point can tie him back to this guy, etc. Edited December 26, 2012 by jeffro2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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