falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Not when it happens all the time. Or either we just get outplayed all the time after we get a lead. But why woukd we get outplayed all the time after taking a lead? The first rule of Smittyball:Take your foot off the gas when you get a lead.Yeah That is why the falcons passed like 80% of the time vs the Saints once we got the lead right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 A single playoff win this year will be looked at as a successful year for this team and you have the nerve to try and downplay the success of the Patriots?We don't have the best QB possibly ever. They do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yeah That is why the falcons passed like 80% of the time vs the Saints once we got the lead right??That is what I call conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 A single playoff win this year will be looked at as a successful year for this team and you have the nerve to try and downplay the success of the Patriots?Will be looked at successful by who? Not me.winning a playoff game is useless if you do not win the next one... and then the next one.And **** right I do.Their playoff record the last 8 years or so is not good at all yet some people keep them on a pedestal because of what they did nearly a decade ago.The last time Tom Brady won a superbowl Matt Ryan was a freshman in college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Winning a playoff game would be big, even if it is only one. It's a chip that Matt Ryan needs to get off of his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Winning a playoff game would be big, even if it is only one. It's a chip that Matt Ryan needs to get off of his shoulder.I agree and I know its semantics but I would not call it a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 That is what I call conservative. ExactlySmitty wanted to run up the score on the saints but the saints defense actually came to play for the first time all season.throw in some drops and bad throws and you have that game.That is why this entire notion that he is "conservative" is utterly stupid.It is funny though ever since the Pats went to this wide open pass the ball 570+ times a year they have not won a superbowlThe years he did he had under 500 passing attempts 2 out of 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You bring up a good point. I think our fans terribly overrate our WRs. They are good, but they both struggle to beat man coverage lots of times.That's the biggest thing I noticed yesterday. We had one of the worst secondaries in the league playing like it was Revis, Champ, Polamalu and Reed in the first half. I saw Julio getting manhandled by a dude 6 inches shorter than him. If you watch the Pats, their WRs, RBs, and TEs explode off the line. Their OL attack. There is just so much more explosion off the snap. We play reactive football. I just don't see the fight in our players that I see on teams like the Pats. It's not a talent thing, we are every bit as talented as they are, it's a coaching thing. We play scared football. Mike Smith wants to play keep away instead of capture the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sheff Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 ExactlySmitty wanted to run up the score on the saints but the saints defense actually came to play for the first time all season.throw in some drops and bad throws and you have that game.That is why this entire notion that he is "conservative" is utterly stupid.It is funny though ever since the Pats went to this wide open pass the ball 570+ times a year they have not won a superbowlThe years he did he had under 500 passing attempts 2 out of 3 years.See the thing about the Super Bowl is that you have to be in it to win it. Patriots seem to be much better at getting that portion done than we are at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 See the thing about the Super Bowl is that you have to be in it to win it. Patriots seem to be much better at getting that portion done than we are at the moment.Yep. Superbowl or not, it isn't hard to see the Patriots have been dominant the past decade while we've been good but not dominant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 See the thing about the Super Bowl is that you have to be in it to win it. Patriots seem to be much better at getting that portion done than we are at the moment.What good is being in it if you do not win it?We were in a superbowl in 1998...........was it some badge of honor or something to LOSE it??Not for me it was not I dunno about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 See the thing about the Super Bowl is that you have to be in it to win it. Patriots seem to be much better at getting that portion done than we are at the moment.No argument there. They are what seems to be always playing to be in the big game. We need to learn that frame of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Those are great stats. Did you watch the Saints game? Did you watch the Cards game? The Raiders game? The first half of the Panthers game? Did you watch any of those?You know that I watch every single Falcons game played. You've been saying this samething about the WR since Jenkins. What makes you such an expert on what the WRs are doing and what they aren't? Could it be the Ryan's fault sometimes? What about the Oline....what about the playcalling. When was the last time we had two WR with 1000? We now have a chance for 3, one of which is a TE. How is that struggling to beat man coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fred Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Because he doesn't go for it on 4th and long and they dont realize the difficult decisions that a head coach has to make in-game. Also, Mike Smith is actually pretty ballsy, but "fans" don't see that, they just say what other people say because they don't have an opinion themselves.well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think they mean play calling and scheme Peyton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He's not conservative as a whole. He has had conservative moments at times but so have other coaches. The only thing I agree about him being conservative that was mentioned in this thread is the punt returner situation this year.Is it a bad thing? Only in certain games it is. Securing that punt be key in some games and having a good return is also key in some games.Other than that I haven't heard anything concerning his conservatism. I have heard a few gripes that are legitimate and some lacking, but again nobody is perfect.Im pretty sure some of you at work do things that aren't perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 You know that I watch every single Falcons game played. You've been saying this samething about the WR since Jenkins. What makes you such an expert on what the WRs are doing and what they aren't? Could it be the Ryan's fault sometimes? What about the Oline....what about the playcalling. When was the last time we had two WR with 1000? We now have a chance for 3, one of which is a TE. How is that struggling to beat man coverage?If you were watching the games close enough you wouldn't even be debating me on the point. The Falcons are much better against zone. Teams really mess them up when they play solid man on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think they mean play calling and scheme Peyton.Thats the thing. I don't see how a defensive coach would control any portion of the offensive plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thats the thing. I don't see how a defensive coach would control any portion of the offensive plays.He doesn't. It's all a bunch of mularkey. Doh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 If you were watching the games close enough you wouldn't even be debating me on the point. The Falcons are much better against zone. Teams really mess them up when they play solid man on us.I think they seriously mean personnel management, play calling, and still insisting on the ever so "magical" BBDB, which I have seen more of from Nolan recently than ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think they seriously mean personnel management, play calling, and still insisting on the ever so "magical" BBDB, which I have seen more of from Nolan recently than ever before.Out of likes .. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thats the thing. I don't see how a defensive coach would control any portion of the offensive plays.HC's often will "suggest" to both coordinators what they would like to see in different circumstances. Whether its in their meetings, practices, or on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 HC's often will "suggest" to both coordinators what they would like to see in different circumstances. Whether its in their meetings, practices, or on the field.While this is true , there is usually a game plan that is presented to the HC before a game. They must ultimately approve it , but once the game starts its pretty much all up to the OC or DC to make the play to play decisions. The HC does step in at needed times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 If you were watching the games close enough you wouldn't even be debating me on the point. The Falcons are much better against zone. Teams really mess them up when they play solid man on us.Dang...JJ must run through a lot of zone coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I also would just like to point out the Falcons are are the verge of doing something only a few other teams have done in the history of the NFL.Have THREE... not one, not two but THREE 1,000 yard receivers.Think about that for a second.This would be the first time since 2008, and only the 4th time since 1995 it has happened if I am not mistaken.How can a team who is on be on pace to pass the ball 629 times and throw for over 4800 yards with THREE wrs reaching the 1,000 mark be considered....conservative??Only on this message board could people think of something so lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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