Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) It's Tom Brady that makes BB great. Take Brady away, the guy is just another coach. A good coach, but certainly not the genius he is considered to be with Brady.Yes, Brady is the best QB in the league. True leader. And I wouldn't say Belichick is just another coach. Belichick is a genius too. What makes him different from other coaches is not being afraid to innovate even when what he's been doing works. How many teams would you say changes offensive philsophy year after year? Deep to Moss and now a two TE set. And also have the guts to go for it on your own 28 even though conventional wisdom says other wise. The dice didn't roll his way unfortunately or we may have seen the emergence of a new philosphy. Edited December 11, 2012 by Mr. Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yes, Brady is the best QB in the league. True leader. And I wouldn't say Belichick is just another coach. Belichick is a genius too. What makes him different from other coaches is not being afraid to innovate even when what he's been doing works. How many teams would you say changes offensive philsophy year after year? Deep to Moss and now a two TE set.Hes definitely innovative. He came up with the 2 TE set to counter the cover 2 which has worked wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Hes definitely innovative. He came up with the 2 TE set to counter the cover 2 which has worked wonders.Probably the most brilliant thing BB ever did was land Gronk and Hernandez in the same draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Pimp Named Slickback™ Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Good read in this thread. I must say I agree with both sides of this debate. While I don't think Smith plays it safe, I do think he coaches scared against certain teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Like other's have said, my complaint with Smith isn't him being conservative, it's Michael Turner. That's it. People calling for his job are idiots. 5 years as the Falcons head coach, 5 straight winning seasons. He's seriously a playoff win away from being a 10-15 year head coach of this team.... so people should get used to it.It sucks the way we've played the last 5-6 weeks. It sucks losing to the Panthers of all teams, but this team has talent. They also have 5 weeks until our first playoff game. That's PLENTY of time to fix some of our issues. This is still OUR year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcondiehardsince 88 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 watch this, up twenty one, gunning in four wide sets stillThats what not conservative looks likeGO PATSohh what do you know 80 yd tdwow amazing, try it smitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Just amazing. Guy comes off the street and gets a TD pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcondiehardsince 88 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 They dont tone it down for the best in the biz, they state their case why they are better, and jam it down their throats.....take note smitty ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) They dont tone it down for the best in the biz, they state their case why they are better, and jam it down their throats.....take note smitty ballIt's Brady and Belichick's mentality. Everyone is paid to play. Defense is paid to stop the offense. Edited December 11, 2012 by Mr. Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcondiehardsince 88 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 pete carroll already figured this out in half the time...........its an attitude, not a gameplan................its an every game thing win on every play and you win the gameNot win the last play and you win the gameHUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE OF THE BEST and THE BEST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Just amazing. Guy comes off the street and gets a TD pass.That is something, crazy how it goes for the Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcondiehardsince 88 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The texans are playing like we do to a teeCant match up with the best of the best, they are just like us, one of the best, stroked by the best of of the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith would not be taking these types of shots down field with a 21 point lead in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Matt Schaub time. I like to see when QBs have to carry the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sheff Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith is seen as conservative because it seems we always play to barely win a game. Many of this saw this very early in the season but since we won, the homers didnt want to recognize it. The Falcons play to win every game by 1 and do their best keeping you in the game to make that a possibility.The Patriots are trying to win every game by 30, its up to you to keep that from happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol'_dirty2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Please somebody, anybody, explain to me where this complaint that I see over and over again that Mike Smith is "conservative".Please give me specifics, because I have no clue what any of you are talking about.Help me understand.Its because we started as a run first team...I'm guessing. Also Mularkey and BVG were pretty conservative in what they did here too, so that didn't help. Other than that...hearsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith is seen as conservative because it seems we always play to barely win a game. Many of this saw this very early in the season but since we won, the homers didnt want to recognize it.The Falcons play to win every game by 1 and do their best keeping you in the game to make that a possibility.The Patriots are trying to win every game by 30, its up to you to keep that from happening.Maybe the Falcons just aren't as good as the Pats. Just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith is seen as conservative because it seems we always play to barely win a game. Many of this saw this very early in the season but since we won, the homers didnt want to recognize it.The Falcons play to win every game by 1 and do their best keeping you in the game to make that a possibility.The Patriots are trying to win every game by 30, its up to you to keep that from happening.Considering we've lost 2 games when being up after the half in almost 5 years I wouldn't consider that a problem.Only the people wanting to see Madden scores and stat padding see it as a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith is seen as conservative because it seems we always play to barely win a game. Many of this saw this very early in the season but since we won, the homers didnt want to recognize it.The Falcons play to win every game by 1 and do their best keeping you in the game to make that a possibility.The Patriots are trying to win every game by 30, its up to you to keep that from happening.Not going to argue about not arguing over a win.We could win the Superbowl by 1pt and I will still be as excited as I would of if it were by 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sheff Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Maybe the Falcons just aren't as good as the Pats. Just throwing it out there.We may not be, but that is no excuse for us finding something that works, then going away from it numerous times this season.No huddle working? Shelve it until we need to have a 4th quarter comeback.Gashing a team with a fullback as a lead blocker? Dont use it after the 1st quarter.3 wides set burning a team? Turner up the middle, TWICE! Edited December 11, 2012 by the_sheff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I would argue he's more timid than conservative. When we takes risks, like going for it on 4th down its more about being afraid of Drew Brees getting the ball than sticking it to the opponent. He's more concerned with the clock than the score, playing the probabilities and sticking to the process than domination. He lacks the killer instinct that makes Belichick great. He holds back young talent, plays it safe with the established guys. I honestly think he coaches scared.I nominate this^^^^ the "Best in Show" post in this thread.....congrats paulitik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Boss of a scramble haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 We may not be, but that is no excuse for us finding something that works, then going away from it numerous times this season.The one game where that was obvious was the New Orleans game. That of course, was the opposite of going conservative though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I feel smith isn't necessarily TOO conservative, but he is conservative. He's a little predictable and plays it safe too much rather than takes risks. He lacks a killer instinct, and so does Ryan. But I feel Ryan lacks that because of smith. Smith needs to coach with swagger, almost like belichek and tomlin, or even Sean Payton. I like smith, I think he's smart and has his players respect. But I don't think he's in that class of GREAT coaches just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 There's a huge difference in being labeled "conservative" for the play calling you want/approve your OC implementing and being labeled "conservative" for your approach to how hard you press your team to go during a game.You'll never see a Mike Smith coached team beat another team 58-0, even when/if he had the horses to do so.You can argue back and forth whether that's a good thing or not but it is what it is.Didnt we beat the Cardinals back in 2009 or 2010 45-3 or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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