Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Dang...JJ must run through a lot of zone coverage.It might be the optimist in me , but JJ is only in year 2. The worst year of most receivers. If this is a bad year, then I will take it. He and Roddy both get shut down in that 2 wide set we play all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Mike Smith didn't do anything conservative in any of those playoff games. The Falcons just got beat.this was a conservative play I remember. JPP & Aaron Ross collided & got stung. both had to come out a play. we had a play with one of their best pass rushers and their best corner on the sidelines. the new corner comes in to cover Julio. instead of taking advantage of a serious mismatch, we throw to Roddy short of the sticks and didn't even get a first down. we gotta be aware of situations like that and capitalize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It might be the optimist in me , but JJ is only in year 2. The worst year of most receivers. If this is a bad year, then I will take it. He and Roddy both get shut down in that 2 wide set we play all the time.He is a beast no doubt about it.to have nearly 1000 on a team with one hall of fame TE, and one wr who if he can keep his numbers up for another 4 years will be in the discussion for the HOF is pretty amazing for a second year wr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Cutting a high priced Ray Edwards in the middle of an 11-2 season contradicts all of that.Cutting Ray Edwards wasn't about his lack of production. It was about his attitude and mouthing off at Smith in the locker room. If it weren't for that, he'd still be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He is a beast no doubt about it.to have nearly 1000 on a team with one hall of fame TE, and one wr who if he can keep his numbers up for another 4 years will be in the discussion for the HOF is pretty amazing for a second year wr.Yea man , JJ is doing fine. If anything its a lack of play calls designed for him. Let him run deep more often and there ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Cutting Ray Edwards wasn't about his lack of production. It was about his attitude and mouthing off at Smith in the locker room. If it weren't for that, he'd still be starting.Its true.We went through all of this but its true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yea man , JJ is doing fine. If anything its a lack of play calls designed for him. Let him run deep more often and there ya go.He actually runs deep alot.What I would like to see is more short drags and crossing patterns and such to get the ball in his hands in space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think they seriously mean personnel management, play calling, and still insisting on the ever so "magical" BBDB, which I have seen more of from Nolan recently than ever before.That's an illusion. I think some are unconciously trying to figure out whats wrong that you tend to criticize some of the pieces that haven't moved or changed, hence people calling out Ryan, Smith, or TD.It makes you say things like "...I have seen more from Nolan recently than ever before"Do you have some proof of that statement? I'm not trying to be rude, its something that I do myself and everybody else as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I would argue he's more timid than conservative. When we takes risks, like going for it on 4th down its more about being afraid of Drew Brees getting the ball than sticking it to the opponent. He's more concerned with the clock than the score, playing the probabilities and sticking to the process than domination. He lacks the killer instinct that makes Belichick great. He holds back young talent, plays it safe with the established guys. I honestly think he coaches scared.That is at the heart of what we all are talking about when we use the term "conservative." Mike Smith coaches from a perspective of fear of losing. When you think of it, that's about as conservative as it gets. It's the polar opposite of having a killer instinct. And it's the reason his teams look so completely lost in the play-offs every year, no matter what their regular season record or play-off seeding is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Because we don't throw it deep every play and everytime we run it isn't getting us 15+ yards. We always kick the ball on 4th down. We don't get 2 sacks a quarter our KR don't get us to the forty yard line. Our players acting like they hurt and Turner keeps hitting the juke stick instead of the speed burst. All we gotta do is line up 5 wide and attack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 He actually runs deep alot.What I would like to see is more short drags and crossing patterns and such to get the ball in his hands in space.He runs outs and mid crosses a lot , I want him either running screens or real deep routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Because we don't throw it deep every play and everytime we run it isn't getting us 15+ yards. We always kick the ball on 4th down. We don't get 2 sacks a quarter our KR don't get us to the forty yard line. Our players acting like they hurt and Turner keeps hitting the juke stick instead of the speed burst. All we gotta do is line up 5 wide and attack...As beautiful as this sounds , I know its not possible. Our poor already beaten up Oline would fail after 1 qtr. We just need to mix it all in better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It's Tom Brady that makes BB great. Take Brady away, the guy is just another coach. A good coach, but certainly not the genius he is considered to be with Brady.C'mon, man. Belichick's success is way more than just having Tom Brady. Mike Smith wouldn't make a festered boil on Belichick's azz. Surely you realize that even if you won't admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 this was a conservative play I remember. JPP & Aaron Ross collided & got stung. both had to come out a play. we had a play with one of their best pass rushers and their best corner on the sidelines. the new corner comes in to cover Julio. instead of taking advantage of a serious mismatch, we throw to Roddy short of the sticks and didn't even get a first down. we gotta be aware of situations like that and capitalizeAnd you've somehow blamed this on Smitty and not Mularkey? Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 As beautiful as this sounds , I know its not possible. Our poor already beaten up Oline would fail after 1 qtr. We just need to mix it all in better.but but but....what had happened......if it was me i woulda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 C'mon, man. Belichick's success is way more than just having Tom Brady. Mike Smith wouldn't make a festered boil on Belichick's azz. Surely you realize that even if you won't admit it.Talking honestly , where would Belichick be without Brady?When I say that I am not claiming him a bad coach , I think he is the best coach in the game atm. I just wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 but but but....what had happened......if it was me i woulda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 pete carroll already figured this out in half the time...........its an attitude, not a gameplan................its an every game thing win on every play and you win the gameNot win the last play and you win the gameHUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE OF THE BEST and THE BESTI guess you don't know Pete Carroll is on his 3rd NFL HC job and was a college HC for many many years. Smitty is at his first ever HC job anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 watch this, up twenty one, gunning in four wide sets stillThats what not conservative looks likeGO PATSohh what do you know 80 yd tdwow amazing, try it smittyLOL. You know you're asking a bassethound to try to become a greyhound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Talking honestly , where would Belichick be without Brady?When I say that I am not claiming him a bad coach , I think he is the best coach in the game atm. I just wonder.Pats owned that division before Brady and went 11-5 the year Brady missed with Cassell. 11-5 with Matt Cassell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I feel smith isn't necessarily TOO conservative, but he is conservative. He's a little predictable and plays it safe too much rather than takes risks. He lacks a killer instinct, and so does Ryan. But I feel Ryan lacks that because of smith. Smith needs to coach with swagger, almost like belichek and tomlin, or even Sean Payton. I like smith, I think he's smart and has his players respect. But I don't think he's in that class of GREAT coaches just yet.Not even close and I don't think he'll ever get there. He'll be the man remembered for having the most awesome regular-season record and the crapiest play-off record of any NFL HC in history. And sadly, that will good enough for hero-worship for many, many fans in TATF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 And you've somehow blamed this on Smitty and not Mularkey? Interesting...Mularkey may have called the play but as the head coach you gotta be aware of what's going on in the game. you gotta notice that, this gave us a situation we could have taken advantage of. just like he pulled Quizz last year when MM sent him in on a goal-line play, he could have told MM to dial up a play to exploit the match-up on Julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Pats owned that division before Brady and went 11-5 the year Brady missed with Cassell.11-5 with Matt CassellYou brought up Cassell , I only thought of Bledsoe. I forgot the year Brady broke his leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The problem with this fan base is how quickly we forget. We NEED Smitty as our HC. Do you days remember Petrino, Mora, Reeves. Reeves was fired in 2003 after Vick broke his leg and we went 5-11. 2004 We went 11-5 with the team Reeves put together in his final season.We haven't been ANYTHING since until Smitty showed up. We have 5 winning seasons and 2 division crowns.Sure we're 0-3 in the playoffs but no other coach has taken us to 3 playoffs to even lose. You guys wanna pack up the best HC and QB in franchise history after only 4 years, cause they can't win the big one or are to conservative for what, for who. You can count on one hand coaches, teams, players who have a better 4 year track record then Smitty and the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Pats owned that division before Brady and went 11-5 the year Brady missed with Cassell. 11-5 with Matt CassellThey didn't even go to the playoffs that year. Thats the difference between having Brady and winning Super Bowls and not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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