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Just wanted to get an opinion on the topic of resting players. Lets say Smitty decided to rest some of our key players during a game like the one coming up against the Giants and Goodell pulled a stunt like Stern by fining him or ANY coach in that situation, would you be in favor of it or not?? I for one was not in favor of a commissioner basically telling an organization how to run their team. Just thought I'd put it out there.

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For good or bad it is the coaches call. If it the wrong choice and it cost them the playoffs then it will most likely cost him his job. If the commish starts telling who to play were does it stop. Does the league start tell u how many mins each "superstar" has to play. Who has to be on the field to end a game and who they want taking shot.

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David Stern is a complete idiot for fining the Spurs. It shows all he cares about is money and rating. Nobody wants a greedy POS running the NBA.

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NFL teams have always rested players when it was all sewed up. No big deal.

What Papa did was send his marquee players home when playing a top team (the Heat) and it being televised on national TV. A little bit different situation than resting your players when it's all in the bag before the playoffs.

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Keeping players totally out of games is OK if you've secured the best playoff position possible. Also if you start blowing a team out pull some starters. Like going into the 4th quarter with a 21 point lead. If you can prevent them from coming back on you, pull some more starters. Talking about remaining regular season game only of course.

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David Stern is a complete idiot for fining the Spurs. It shows all he cares about is money and rating. Nobody wants a greedy POS running the NBA.

Stern is terrible. If you're interested, here's a good piece on the ongoing Stern culture vs. Spurs culture feud in the NBA. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--david-stern-stumbles-again-in-his-failed-culture-war-against-the-spurs-194828970.html

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I doubt he would. Resting players before the post-season is expected in the NFL where 1 freak accident can cost you your season. I don't think most fans mind to be honest.

It's actually pretty normal in the NBA as well. The big Woop-to-do about the Spur's is they did it relatively early in the season. Other teams do it too ( In fact the Heat did it against the Hawks last year) but Popovich got punished cause he didn't bother to disguise it as an injury situation. And frankly I don't really feel that sorry for him either, by all accounts it sounded like he knew this was going to happen but chose to butt heads with Stern anyway to make a statement..

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NFL teams have always rested players when it was all sewed up. No big deal.

What Papa did was send his marquee players home when playing a top team (the Heat) and it being televised on national TV. A little bit different situation than resting your players when it's all in the bag before the playoffs.

A coach shouldnt be concerned with whether a game is on national tv or not. His job is to win a championship. He rested his players because he wanted them at their best when facing the best team in the west and in their division, the Grizzlies. They wound up beating the Grizzlies in overtime. Something that would have been a lot harder if their aging stars were tired from playing 4 road games in 5 nights.

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It's actually pretty normal in the NBA as well. The big Woop-to-do about the Spur's is they did it relatively early in the season. Other teams do it too ( In fact the Heat did it against the Hawks last year) but Popovich got punished cause he didn't bother to disguise it as an injury situation. And frankly I don't really feel that sorry for him either, by all accounts it sounded like he knew this was going to happen but chose to butt heads with Stern anyway to make a statement..

The league has no business telling a coach how he should run his team.

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The league has no business telling a coach how he should run his team.

And they wouldn't.... if Pop didn't go out of his way to thump his chest at them. He knew what he was stepping into, he has a history with Stern. They're other ways to rest your players.

And besides leagues from NBA to MLB to the NFL ALL tell their teams what they can and can't do. This is nothing new. Its why Saint's are in the situation they're currently in. At least the NFL give's its team the room to protest and debate their restrictions. Imagine if their power was absolute like the NCAA.

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And they wouldn't.... if Pop didn't go out of his way to thump his chest at them. He knew what he was stepping into, he has a history with Stern. They're other ways to rest your players.

And besides leagues from NBA to MLB to the NFL ALL tell their teams what they can and can't do. This is nothing new. Its why Saint's are in the situation they're currently in. At least the NFL give's its team the room to protest and debate their restrictions. Imagine if their power was absolute like the NCAA.

He thumped his chest by sending his players home? Was Pop supposed to put on some sort of show by having them dress for the game and just sit on the bench? Stern was the one who blew this thing up in the media and most people agreed he looked like a fool.

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He thumped his chest by sending his players home? Was Pop supposed to put on some sort of show by having them dress for the game and just sit on the bench?

You mean like what all 30 NBA coaches including Popovich have always done prior to that point......?

Pop was pissed about the schedule and he let Stern know it.

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And they wouldn't.... if Pop didn't go out of his way to thump his chest at them. He knew what he was stepping into, he has a history with Stern. They're other ways to rest your players.

And besides leagues from NBA to MLB to the NFL ALL tell their teams what they can and can't do. This is nothing new. Its why Saint's are in the situation they're currently in. At least the NFL give's its team the room to protest and debate their restrictions. Imagine if their power was absolute like the NCAA.

Pop didn't do anything other then send the players home early. If you think that's thumping his chest then we'll probably never see eye to eye on anything.

Your saints analogy doesn't work either, because this isn't about attempting to injure players and bounties, it's about a coaches decision on who and who not to play. If Goodell had come down on Peyton for not playing Bush, Brees, and Vilma in a game then we'd all be saying Goodell is a joke. That is the corresponding situation, not the bounty mess.

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Pop didn't do anything other then send the players home early. If you think that's thumping his chest then we'll probably never see eye to eye on anything.

Your saints analogy doesn't work either, because this isn't about attempting to injure players and bounties, it's about a coaches decision on who and who not to play. If Goodell had come down on Peyton for not playing Bush, Brees, and Vilma in a game then we'd all be saying Goodell is a joke. That is the corresponding situation, not the bounty mess.

Remeber the crux of the Saints punishment (at least on paper) isn't the Bounty situation itself. It was the Saint's arrogance of (allegedly) refusing to cease and desist after the NFL told them to stop.

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You mean like what all 30 NBA coaches including Popovich have always done prior to that point......?

Pop was pissed about the schedule and he let Stern know it.

Who cares what the other teams do. Pop wasnt going to play his guys so he saw no reason to make them sit on a bench when they could be at home resting. This guy is one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for a reason.

Forget a dog and pony show, this is about winning championships.

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Remeber the crux of the Saints punishment (at least on paper) isn't the Bounty situation itself. It was the Saint's arrogance of (allegedly) refusing to cease and desist after the NFL told them to stop.

They are not similar situations at all, and you're doing a disservice to your argument by trying to compare the two.

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Who cares what the other teams do. Pop wasnt going to play his guys so he saw no reason to make them sit on a bench when they could be at home resting. This guy is one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for a reason.

I'm not arguing it wasn't a good move for his team. I'm just saying people need to quit acting like poor Pop got blindsided by mean ol David Stern with his fines of Tyranny. Pop knew what he was getting into, and for all his words of "Disappointed" he HAD to have known some kind of reprimand was coming.

And this isn't the first time in history an NBA team has gotten fined for this, I think that is the source of some misconception.

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Who cares what the other teams do. Pop wasnt going to play his guys so he saw no reason to make them sit on a bench when they could be at home resting. This guy is one of the greatest coaches in NBA history for a reason.

Forget a dog and pony show, this is about winning championships.

Any NBA fan, coach or player can tell you championships aren't won by sitting players in November.

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Remember the NBA is still a business like any other and it will always be out to protect its own interests. Pop may be the coach but he does not have the god given right to potentially set precedent for resting players even if its in the best interest of his team.

This is Basketball not Laissez Faire

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