TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Give me an example of a shoulder injury that it would be safe to play with, without worrying about being reinjured.I played with a rotator cuff injury. It hurt like **** but i kept playing for the rest of the season. Running back at that. Smith saying Asante knocked his shoulder didn't mean reinjured. Just meant he hit it and the pain was too severe for him to continue. The main thing is I've given you guys word straight from Asante's mouth to my ears and you still rant on and on about speculation. He's fine. The pain just got a little too severe and he took himself out. He's not reinjured. He may or may not sit next week. Probably will be a game time decision. Edited November 30, 2012 by TheFatboi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 I played with a rotator cuff injury. It hurt like **** but i kept playing for the rest of the season. Running back at that. Smith saying Asante knocked his shoulder didn't mean reinjured. Just meant he hit it and the pain was too severe for him to continue. The main thing is I've given you guys word straight from Asante's mouth to my ears and you still rant on and on about speculation. He's fine. The pain just got a little to severe and he took himself out. He's not reinjured.That's exactly what I would expect Asante to say. When you get bumped one time and come off the field in excruciating pain, it's obvious that you aren't fine.My gripe isn't with Asante. I am glad he is willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sheff Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was quite angry about it too. It shouldn't even have been left in Asante's hands. Let him sit out the Panthers game and if it is still bothering him he shouldnt play the next week either. We win 2 of the final 4 games and we should have a bye wrapped up, we dont need Asante for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Give me an example of a shoulder injury that it would be safe to play with, without worrying about being reinjured.The kind that makes a player think that after a few short days of rest he might be able to play again. The kind that the doctors did not recommend that he sit out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 The kind that makes a player think that after a few short days of rest he might be able to play again. The kind that the doctors did not recommend that he sit out of the game.And how did that work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 What I think I'm hearing is that Asante has an injury that is so bad that he can't possibly heal during the season, and so might as well keep running him out there, but even if that is the case, it hurts the team when you give a guy an active roster spot and he runs out there and is only able to play one series.If he's injured that bad, he's not going to improve for the playoffs, and maybe he should be put on IR.If he doesn't have that kind of injury, maybe he should take a couple of weeks off and get to where he can make it through a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 And how did that work out?I don't see a problem. You do realize that during the healing process he actually has to test it to see if it is getting better, right? Do you honestly think that every time he tests it he is going to reinjure himself?Again, haven't you ever been injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDogg1215 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 He was healthy enough to play so he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethos Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 What I think I'm hearing is that Asante has an injury that is so bad that he can't possibly heal during the season, and so might as well keep running him out there, but even if that is the case, it hurts the team when you give a guy an active roster spot and he runs out there and is only able to play one series.If he's injured that bad, he's not going to improve for the playoffs, and maybe he should be put on IR.If he doesn't have that kind of injury, maybe he should take a couple of weeks off and get to where he can make it through a game.You a trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 What I think I'm hearing is that Asante has an injury that is so bad that he can't possibly heal during the season, and so might as well keep running him out there, but even if that is the case, it hurts the team when you give a guy an active roster spot and he runs out there and is only able to play one series.I have a saying... don't make bad news be any worse than it is. In other words, don't hear one thing and imagine the worse. It is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 That's exactly what I would expect Asante to say. When you get bumped one time and come off the field in excruciating pain, it's obvious that you aren't fine.My gripe isn't with Asante. I am glad he is willing.He's not gonna say he's fine if he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I don't see a problem. You do realize that during the healing process he actually has to test it to see if it is getting better, right? Do you honestly think that every time he tests it he is going to reinjure himself?Again, haven't you ever been injured?In sure he's been injured like the rest of us but he's probably the guy that got a boo boo and acted like it was killing him. Asante has a high threshold for pain and if guys knew where he came from and what he's gone thru in life they'd understand why he is the way he is. I don't have a problem with him trying to go, obviously the docs and coaches don't so why cry about it? Him trying to play has not cost us one game. He even got an int while he was hurt. Ppl don't realize he has been playing with that shoulder all year. He hurt it in the Denver game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 In sure he's been injured like the rest of us but he's probably the guy that got a boo boo and acted like it was killing him. Asante has a high threshold for pain and if guys knew where he came from and what he's gone thru in life they'd understand why he is the way he is. I don't have a problem with him trying to go, obviously the docs and coaches don't so why cry about it? Him trying to play has not cost us one game. He even got an int while he was hurt. Ppl don't realize he has been playing with that shoulder all year. He hurt it in the Denver game.Hmm. That's interesting. So obviously the shoulder has gotten worse then, right? How did that happen?Did Asante help the team by trying to play last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 He's not gonna say he's fine if he isn't.Dude, he obviously is not fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 He was healthy enough to play so he did.He obviously was not healthy enough to play. I can't even believe you typed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'd agree.I said earlier this week I'd rather he sit this one out. I heard he was gonna go and I thought it was admirable that he was gonna try to get out there. The guy is a gamer. That said, as soon as he got hurt I thought, "This is why I didn't want him out there!" With a "mini-bye" hopefully he'll take the time to heal. I'd honestly rather he not even attempt to get out there against Carolina even if he is feeling much better. I say we just wait until the week the G-men are headed to town and see how he feels headed into that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 I have a saying... don't make bad news be any worse than it is. In other words, don't hear one thing and imagine the worse. It is silly.I am trying to understand the argument for running the guy out there and aggravating the injury again every week.Fatboi has just disclosed that the injury happened in the Denver game. Since I believe him, I think it would be obvious that him playing every week is obviously making his injury worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 I don't see a problem. You do realize that during the healing process he actually has to test it to see if it is getting better, right? Do you honestly think that every time he tests it he is going to reinjure himself?Again, haven't you ever been injured?Obviously it was way too early to "test" his shoulder.And yeah...those 46 active spots are valuable, and it is a problem to waste one on a guy who is only going to make it through 3 snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I am trying to understand the argument for running the guy out there and aggravating the injury again every week.Fatboi has just disclosed that the injury happened in the Denver game. Since I believe him, I think it would be obvious that him playing every week is obviously making his injury worse.Nah. it wasn't getting worse. He hit Fitz in ther arizona game with the shoulder the same way he did in the Denver game. But like i've said over and over players play with injuries all season long that they may not even tell coaches or trainers. He's fine. Just got some pain. Why cry about when there's nothing you can do and as long as docs clear him to play he'll probably play. At least give it a shot. If his shoulder was at risk of ending his season it would've happened by now since week 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Obviously it was way too early to "test" his shoulder.And yeah...those 46 active spots are valuable, and it is a problem to waste one on a guy who is only going to make it through 3 snaps.3 snaps is not a waste. Owens came in and did a fine job after those 3 game losing scoring drive snaps. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Nah. it wasn't getting worse. How could you possibly make that claim? Nobody saw Asante have any problems with his shoulder prior to the Cards game, and now the guy looks like he has been shot with an M16 every time he brushes something.And according to you, the Falcons have made a fairly serious violation of the league's injury reporting rules, so I hope nobody from the NFL is reading this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 3 snaps is not a waste. Owens came in and did a fine job after those 3 game losing scoring drive snaps. Lol.It is when the 3rd snap is a 38 yard completion against you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Hmm. That's interesting. So obviously the shoulder has gotten worse then, right? How did that happen?Did Asante help the team by trying to play last night?He didn't hurt the team by playing. Definitely didn't hurt the team playing last week when he broke up the hail mary at the end of the game. Didn't hurt the team when he came BACK in the arizona game and broke up a deep shot that would have certainly been a TD if he hadn't. So the answer to your question is YES. Asante has helped the team while playing hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 He didn't hurt the team by playing. Definitely didn't hurt the team playing last week when he broke up the hail mary at the end of the game. Didn't hurt the team when he came BACK in the arizona game and broke up a deep shot that would have certainly been a TD if he hadn't. So the answer to your question is YES. Asante has helped the team while playing hurt.But he didn't last night, and it was obvious that he needed a week off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 How could you possibly make that claim? Nobody saw Asante have any problems with his shoulder prior to the Cards game, and now the guy looks like he has been shot with an M16 every time he brushes something.And according to you, the Falcons have made a fairly serious violation of the league's injury reporting rules, so I hope nobody from the NFL is reading this board.They have not violated because like I said before players may not say they are hurt. You're ging in circles running yourself ragged about something you can't control. Let it go. atleast until him playing causes us to lose a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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