J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I just recently follow college football this year week to week, usually I just watch the bowl games but how come Notre Dame is automatically in the BCS game? While Alabama and UGA gotta duke it out in the SEC championship? Does ND not have a division game at the end of their season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 ND is Independent in football so they have no game to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 ND is Independent in football so they have no game to playWhat makes them independent? Are they the only team that's independent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 ND is Independent in football so they have no game to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 I still don't get it. So they don't even have a division or conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 What makes them independent? Are they the only team that's independent?There are a few others, independent as in not associated with a NCAA conference. This means that they do not have to play a game to determine conference champion so they will stay #1 in the polls no matter what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Idk they are just not in a specific football conference IDK exactly what the reason is for sure. Idk if it's so they can play the schedule they want, or if it has to do with the actual like academics of it all. Not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinine Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Does ND not have a division game at the end of their season?They do not have to play in a conference championship because they do not belong to a conference. They are independent. They kind of "joined" the ACC recently... kind of. Starting next year, most of their sports will, indeed, be a part of the ACC. The football team will not, however, they will play a lot of ACC teams. The football team will still be technically independent though.It's weird, but that's college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I still don't get it. So they don't even have a division or conference?no conference at all, they are just kind of in NCAA limbo.For further reading. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_independent_schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 There are a few others, independent as in not associated with a NCAA conference. This means that they do not have to play a game to determine conference champion so they will stay #1 in the polls no matter what happens.Well that's just dumb, that just means they have an advantage to the BCS game since they are ranked #1 and other teams gotta play another extra game just to be the #2 team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Notre Dame hasn't been in a conference historically because they didn't have to be. Because of a lot of ancient history, they have always been guaranteed TV time and favoritism in the human polls, and they haven't had to share TV revenues because of it. However, my understanding is that they will be joining the ACC for football and/or other sports in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) Well that's just dumb, that just means they have an advantage to the BCS game since they are ranked #1 and other teams gotta play another extra game just to be the #2 team?well, yes and no, this year they sort of have an advantage because they are ranked #1 and do not have to play a championship game like Alabama & UGA but on the other hand, as an independent team it can be harder for them to get invited to bowl games; though this is typically offset by the fact that ND is one of the most prestigious football schools in the country.Also, that "extra" game is going to happen wether or not UGA & BAMA are 2 & 3. If they were ranked 20ths and 30th they would still have to play the SEC Championship game, this year it will just determine who will go to the big one. Edited November 25, 2012 by Aftermath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 I think it's BS. I'm glad there's gonna be playoffs soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinine Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 no conference at all, they are just kind of in NCAA limbo.For further reading. http://en.wikipedia....pendent_schoolsYep. You'll notice that one of the major reasons for joining a conference is for TV money. Notre Dame has had the good fortune of being able to remain independent while at the same time bringing in tons of TV money. Despite their lack of success over the last 10 years or so, they are still a "brand". They negotiate their own TV contracts with the networks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Thanks for the answers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinine Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I think it's BS. I'm glad there's gonna be playoffs soon.Yeah, it's BS. But as I said in an earlier post, college football is weird. I'm also glad that playoffs are finally going to happen. I hope they expand it to an 8 team format at some point. They probably will once they realize the TV money that can be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-RoC770 Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, it's BS. But as I said in an earlier post, college football is weird. I'm also glad that playoffs are finally going to happen. I hope they expand it to an 8 team format at some point. They probably will once they realize the TV money that can be made.But the top 8 was still be based on computers, polls, etc? Not winners of the conference right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinine Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 But the top 8 was still be based on computers, polls, etc? Not winners of the conference right?Yep. It won't be perfect and it simply can't be with the way college football is structured. It will be a lot more fair though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I think 8 team playoff works best for NCAA. Keep the current format. Win your division and play for the conference championship. The winner of each conference goes into a bracket 1-8 like any other sport 1 vs 8 and so on until there is 1 National Champion. There are 12 conferences in D1 so instill a 10 wins gets you in the playoffs rule. Have your ranking #1 thru 8 is based of the voters, coaches, and AP polls. This will make college more interesting, build fanbases, create new rivalry and make more money (which is the main goal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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