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Is Anyone Worried About The Defense's Inability To Stop The Run?


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Its great to be 7-0 but a problem looms. The defense is 26th in run defense giving up 136 yards a game. As we recall the playoffs become more of a physical, smash-mouth game (See the Giants game last year) and the teams that run and stop the run have a decided advantage. As we know, the run game is not the focal point of the offense yet run defense IS a compnent of any sucessful defense.

What has happened to the middle of the defense? Peria Jerry has 4 tackles in 7 games. Teams continually run right up the gut of the defense. Ray Edwards has zero sacks and only a few tackles; Kroy Biermann has 2 sacks as his backup. Again, it is great to be undefeated but the inability to stop the run is a problem that needs to be fixed now so that it doesn't cost the team in the playoffs.

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Its great to be 7-0 but a problem looms. The defense is 26th in run defense giving up 136 yards a game. As we recall the playoffs become more of a physical, smash-mouth game (See the Giants game last year) and the teams that run and stop the run have a decided advantage. As we know, the run game is not the focal point of the offense yet run defense IS a compnent of any sucessful defense.

What has happened to the middle of the defense? Peria Jerry has 4 tackles in 7 games. Teams continually run right up the gut of the defense. Ray Edwards has zero sacks and only a few tackles; Kroy Biermann has 2 sacks as his backup. Again, it is great to be undefeated but the inability to stop the run is a problem that needs to be fixed now so that it doesn't cost the team in the playoffs.

. You mean like holding our last opponent to 92 yards rushing and 3.8 per?
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. You mean like holding our last opponent to 92 yards rushing and 3.8 per?

. You mean like holding our last opponent to 92 yards rushing and 3.8 per?

So that means that the problem is solved? Nobody hates being 7-0 but denying a problem by referencing one game is hiding your head in the sand. How does that explain Jerry having 4 tackles in light of 136 yards a game?

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I'm comfortable where we are at. It even feels weird saying this as a long time fan. The word comfortable with our team doesn't feel natural. We have continued to improve and are heading in the right direction.

@ chifalc , for some reason your responses on the main TATF page have been whacky. They do not have an avatar like everyone else its just a huge text bubble that extends off the page in some cases. Its only you and its been this way for a few weeks. I finally feel like saying it. I know its not your fault so please don't take it that way. Its just weird!

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Dude, consider the scheme, geesh ..........

What???? 136 yards rushing and "consider the scheme?" So basically you are saying that its okay to give up a ton of rushing yards when the top defenses stop both the run and pass. Do you think Pittsburgh would respond to the question by saying its the scheme? No, they would say that its a concern and address it. Believe its not a concern if you want but that doesnt make it not so.

Anyone here who played any level of football, from Pop Warner to NFL NEVER had a coach explain away a deficiency by saying "Its the scheme". no defensive coach would say "Our defense is designed to give up 1000 rushing yards but we compensate by playing pass defense." Even the coaches were saying that the run defense is a concern. But you are entitiled to your opinion.

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What???? 136 yards rushing and "consider the scheme?" so basically you are saying that its okay to give up a ton of rushing yards when the top defenses stop both the run and pass. Do you think Pittsburgh would respond to the question by saying its the scheme? No, they would say that its a concern and address it. Believe its not a concern if you want but that doesnt make it not so.

Man, WTF we run a nickle base for crying out loud, and the entire philosophy is geared to stop the passing game, our whole philosophy is to get the lead and stop other teams thru the air and give them the run to sacrifice the fkng clock, get a clue bro ........

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Stopping the run is the last thing on our mind. If we really want to, we have the new 3DT heavy defensive set to use on early downs and obvious running downs, but we've got one thing on our minds: get a lead and force the other guy to throw so we can have fun with numbers on defense and force turnovers.

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Man, WTF we run a nickle base for crying out loud, and the entire philosophy is geared to stop the passing game, our whole philosophy is to get the lead and stop other teams thru the air and give them the run to sacrifice the fkng clock, get a clue bro ........

Obviously you never played a down of football. Thats not even a defensive philosophy that you spouted. No self respecting defensive coordinator would call his defense a nickle defense geared to let teams run in order to stop the pass. That is pure nonsense. Just say thats what you think is happening because that is surely not Mike Nolan's defensive philosophy just as sure as it wasn't Miami's or Baltimore's when he coached their defense.No defensive coordinator college or pro would purposefully ALLOW a team to gash them on the run to play pass defense..that is ridiculous.

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Sound tackling does wonders...Moore/Decoud played very well against the run.

Exactly, Smith stated they fixed fundamental tackling entire week before Philly, and it showed....the major reason for our poor run D ranking was because of poor tackling, giving up yards after contact.....they fixed it, and shut Shady down pretty good....

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Obviously you never played a down of football. Thats not even a defensive philosophy that you spouted. No self respecting defensive coordinator would call his defense a nickle defense geared to let teams run in order to stop the pass. That is pure nonsense. Just say thats what you think is happening because that is surely not Mike Nolan's defensive philosophy just as sure as it wasn't Miami's or Baltimore's when he coached their defense.No defensive coordinator college or pro would purposefully ALLOW a team to gash them on the run to play pass defense..that is ridiculous.

Whatever kid, I give up trying to educate you, life too short.........

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What???? 136 yards rushing and "consider the scheme?" So basically you are saying that its okay to give up a ton of rushing yards when the top defenses stop both the run and pass. Do you think Pittsburgh would respond to the question by saying its the scheme? No, they would say that its a concern and address it. Believe its not a concern if you want but that doesnt make it not so.

Anyone here who played any level of football, from Pop Warner to NFL NEVER had a coach explain away a deficiency by saying "Its the scheme". no defensive coach would say "Our defense is designed to give up 1000 rushing yards but we compensate by playing pass defense." Even the coaches were saying that the run defense is a concern. But you are entitiled to your opinion.

We've had 2 players that rushed for over 100 against us. Alfred Morris and Willis McGahee. A lot of those yards came from QB's. Newton, Vick, and RGIII. And we've played a LOT in Nickel while protecting leads.

How many teams have had success running the ball and scoring early on us? How many teams have run themselves to a victory over us? How many teams were able to run on us when they had to in order to win a game?

I would like to see our defense ranked first in all facets but I don't think our ranking is a valid representation of our ability. Carolina and Oakland could've won if they could've run the ball on us. They couldn't when they had to and we new they were going to try. Teams have caught us off guard in the wrong defense on occasion breaking off long runs that bloat their rushing stats against us. I'm not trying to act like rush defense is a strength. Just saying it's not as big of a liability people think it is.

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Stopping the run is the last thing on our mind. If we really want to, we have the new 3DT heavy defensive set to use on early downs and obvious running downs, but we've got one thing on our minds: get a lead and force the other guy to throw so we can have fun with numbers on defense and force turnovers.

I just find it hard to beleive that this is not a concern with coaches. Rememeber that I said this when a balanced team like the Texans start running play action off of their run game and there is no answer for it.

Defenses at the top never concede run for pass or visa versa; they attempt to shut down both aspects.

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Whatever kid, I give up trying to educate you, life too short.........

I actually played the game on both sides at one time or another. Unless you are a coach then there is absolutely nothing you can educate me on concerning the game of football.

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