since68andcounting Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If you're gonna criticize a coach when he blows it, you need to give him credit when he does something good.During the "almost" interception by McClain on Oakland's final scoring drive there were a LOT of fans calling for Smitty to challenge that McClain had full control before dropping it. The logic was, "we have the lead and 3 timeouts, what do we have to lose?". I was one of those fans.But Smitty kept his head and (as he usually does) made his own decision. His stubborness paid off.Asante was nicked up near the goal line, costing us one timeout. On another play in the final drive, Quizz didn't get out of bounds, costing us a second. Had Smitty burned a TO on that unlikely challenge, there was no way we could have gotten a field goal off. Holding on to the challenge flag in hindsight turned out to be an excellent coaching decision that won us the game in regulation. And considering how gassed our D was at the end, it probably won the game overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevykev21 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yeah, good point. Ended up being possibly a game-winning decision as you said.I can't say what Smith's overall challenge record is, but I would suspect it's leaning towards the losing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUNKuno Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If you're gonna criticize a coach when he blows it, you need to give him credit when he does something good.During the "almost" interception by McClain on Oakland's final scoring drive there were a LOT of fans calling for Smitty to challenge that McClain had full control before dropping it. The logic was, "we have the lead and 3 timeouts, what do we have to lose?". I was one of those fans.But Smitty kept his head and (as he usually does) made his own decision. His stubborness paid off.Asante was nicked up near the goal line, costing us one timeout. On another play in the final drive, Quizz didn't get out of bounds, costing us a second. Had Smitty burned a TO on that unlikely challenge, there was no way we could have gotten a field goal off. Holding on to the challenge flag in hindsight turned out to be an excellent coaching decision that won us the game in regulation. And considering how gassed our D was at the end, it probably won the game overall. Holy cow, good point man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I like to think that if the challenge failed and we were down another timeout, Ryan would have just preformed his magic under more difficult circumstances. I mean, they gave him 40 seconds, that's about 20 more than Ryan needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFalcon Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I'm on the bandwagon that he should have challenged. It looked to me like McLain had control of the ball, fumbled, and then recovered it. IF Smitty challenged and the play is overturned we get the ball and just have to run out the clock. IF we lose the challenge we still have a chance to win the game, only instead of kicking on first we spike the ball, run the kick team out and kick with :01 on the clock and there is no kick off.I'm a little miffed that we didn't challenge, but I'm glad we are 6-0 going into the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trufant Island Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 It sure looked to me like he had control of that ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlsport Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If Mcclain stays on the ground and doesn't try to run, that's an INT. Good non challenge though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 McClain was trying to climb back on his feet using his knees. I think one of his knees knocked the ball loose. Those rules on possession and "football moves" are very open to interpretation. You'd like to think we would've gotten the ball, but the call on the field was an incomplete pass. It would've had to be overwhelming evidence the other way.Smitty did the right thing by being patient, and it turned out to be a game winning coaching decision. I do NOT think we would've had enough time otherwise. We've been skirting by these wins by the skins of our teeth. There's only so far you can push it before the sheer odds just beat you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnyjim Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Good point. It was close because the league has clouded the issue of possession. With MR at QB perhaps Smitty has learned to shepherd his timeouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) I really thought it was a pick. I mean he caught it, fumbled, and then recovered Edited October 15, 2012 by Top Flight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shc Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 That and how the challenge went to reverese that Julio first down, makes me glad he didn't challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconPio Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Great point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wleggett Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I guess I'm in the minority because I didn't think he fully had possession. Had he stayed on the ground it would have been a done deal but it was fluid motion making the catch but I couldn't see that he did anything that would have been considered a football move while he had possession. I'll have to watch it again but based on what I saw yesterday and in the game replays it wasn't an interception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDirtyBird7 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 good point man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I didnt think it was a clean catch anyways to be honest...I mean, it was close sure...but you know no ref would have overturned this because there was glaring evidence it should be have an INT. Know what im sayin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) No way the officials were going to overturn that after it was ruled an incompletion on the field. Great job of Smitty not to throw the flag.Of course, McClain needs to realize that if he just holds onto that ball, it's pretty much game over. No need to try to jump up and start running with it. Edited October 15, 2012 by virginiafalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsense Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 if he just stayed down we wouldnt be talking about this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I really thought it was a pick. I mean he caught it, fumbled, and then recoverednope, an interception is just like a pass completion, have to maintain control all the way to the ground and beyond. that was NOT controlled all the way through, thanks to McClain wanting to get up and run with it. if he had just focused on staying on the ground with the ball, he most likely wouldn't have lost control of it.basically the same type of play that happened on JJ's catch that was overturned. that wasn't a catch because JJ lost control, even if he did wind up with the ball in his hands when it was done. not a catch, fumble and recovery, because it was never a catch to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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