falcndave Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 So, I've be browsing team stats. The one I find very interesting is the the Skins are not converting well at all on 3rd down. They are 13/51 on 3rd down for 25.5%. Good thing for them they only give up a 34% conversion rate on 3rd down. I would think a team with a scrambling QB would do much better than 25% on 3rd down. Pass if it is there, run if it isn't. Anyway, I found that a bit surprising.If your wondering, we convert at 47% and give up 48%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fibonacci/Mashburn Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thanks. I did not know they were so bad.every day I found out something that makes them worse and worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 So, I've be browsing team stats. The one I find very interesting is the the Skins are not converting well at all on 3rd down. They are 13/51 on 3rd down for 25.5%. Good thing for them they only give up a 34% conversion rate on 3rd down. I would think a team with a scrambling QB would do much better than 25% on 3rd down. Pass if it is there, run if it isn't. Anyway, I found that a bit surprising.If your wondering, we convert at 47% and give up 48%.That is interesting indeed. That's terrible for our defense. It needs to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I thought we were ranked near the top when it comes to converting on 3rd down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 I thought we were ranked near the top when it comes to converting on 3rd down?We are 2nd in the league to Pittsburgh on offensive conversions. Middle of the pack (18th) on the defensive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonOfThemBirds Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I think that Nolan will have an effective plan to not stop RG3, but at least slow him down so that once the Redskins are down by at least 2 scores he will go after him more aggressively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons007 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 That is interesting indeed. That's terrible for our defense. It needs to improve.I think it was 68% in the first half against chiefs and very high in the Broncos game when the Falcons had a lead. MS and Mike Nolan should stop playing prevent Defense with a lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I think it was 68% in the first half against chiefs and very high in the Broncos game when the Falcons had a lead. MS and Mike Nolan should stop playing prevent Defense with a lead.I'll guarantee that's a Smitty thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Gotta start forcing more 3 and outs, other than that can't really complain. So long as the defense kEeps forcing turnovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Gotta start forcing more 3 and outs, other than that can't really complain. So long as the defense kEeps forcing turnoversWe are never going to consistently send teams 3 and out. We rely on big plays on 1st or 2nd down to get us into solid nickle situations. Sometimes it will take us a series or two to get them in that situation. That is especially true of teams like the Redskins that consistently run well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We are never going to consistently send teams 3 and out. We rely on big plays on 1st or 2nd down to get us into solid nickle situations. Sometimes it will take us a series or two to get them in that situation. That is especially true of teams like the Redskins that consistently run well.I'm speaking more 1 maybe 2 in a row in a qtr with the same turnover production. That'll result in more series for the offense and in theory more points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehus Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Too Bad BVG isn't still our D cord because he was the Falcons would have helped the Redskins improve that stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 So, I've be browsing team stats. The one I find very interesting is the the Skins are not converting well at all on 3rd down. They are 13/51 on 3rd down for 25.5%. Good thing for them they only give up a 34% conversion rate on 3rd down. I would think a team with a scrambling QB would do much better than 25% on 3rd down. Pass if it is there, run if it isn't. Anyway, I found that a bit surprising.If your wondering, we convert at 47% and give up 48%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 I'm speaking more 1 maybe 2 in a row in a qtr with the same turnover production. That'll result in more series for the offense and in theory more points.Yep, nothing makes me happier than scoring on our opening possession and sending the opponent packing on theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 all depends on the distance. if it is long they probably have a spy on him to try to prevent the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Too Bad BVG isn't still our D cord because he was the Falcons would have helped the Redskins improve that stat.We're actually ranked 29th in third down defense through four games at 48%. BVG finished 29th last year at 44%. Nolan better pick it up cause 3rd down defense was #1 on Smitty's wish list comin into 2012. You want to be around 35%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yep, nothing makes me happier than scoring on our opening possession and sending the opponent packing on theirs.not like winning though. Potentially 3 and outs are 2 score swings helps dictate the pace of the game. It really is a key reason the falcons have been consistent winners for so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcndave Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 all depends on the distance. if it is long they probably have a spy on him to try to prevent the run.I reviewed the play-by-play script of two of their games. Lots of incomplete passes in the 3-7 yard to go range. Several run stuffs on 3rd and less than 3. They tend to be in a lot of very long yardage situations in which they gain 10 plus to end up short anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumFalconz Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We're actually ranked 29th in third down defense through four games at 48%. BVG finished 29th last year at 44%. Nolan better pick it up cause 3rd down defense was #1 on Smitty's wish list comin into 2012. You want to be around 35%.We play too much zone.I would like to see more of a man/combo more of often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We're actually ranked 29th in third down defense through four games at 48%. BVG finished 29th last year at 44%. Nolan better pick it up cause 3rd down defense was #1 on Smitty's wish list comin into 2012. You want to be around 35%.Really good bet that improves as Nolan learns his players and the players learn the new scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I think that Nolan will have an effective plan to not stop RG3, but at least slow him down so that once the Redskins are down by at least 2 scores he will go after him more aggressively.We need to worry about Morris as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Gotta start forcing more 3 and outs, other than that can't really complain. So long as the defense kEeps forcing turnoversWe can't consistently get 3 and outs without the ability to apply pressure with 4. It is the most obvious thing we have yet to properly address. Maybe Nolan will get us fixed next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 They always have 3rd and long not many 3rd and short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thanks for the stats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconstwopercentsized Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 We can't consistently get 3 and outs without the ability to apply pressure with 4. It is the most obvious thing we have yet to properly address. Maybe Nolan will get us fixed next year.you don't need that to force 3 n outs. And I'm saying one a qtr no big deal coupled with continuing to take advantage of mistakes and force turnovers and you've got a superbowl recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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