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2013 Offseason

Players Signed

CB Marcus Trufant Signed a three-year, $6 million contract. The deal contains $2.6 million guaranteed. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2013: $1.325 million, 2014: $1.375 million, 2015: $1.975 million, 2016: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/player/marcustrufant/2505553/profile

TE Heath Miller Signed a three-year, $13.5 million contract. The deal contains $6 million guaranteed, including a $4.5 million signing bonus. 2013: $1.5 million, 2014: $3 million, 2015: $4.5 million, 2016: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/player/heathmiller/2506369/profile

OLB Will Witherspoon Signed a two-year, $3.5 million contract. 2013: $1.5 million, 2014: $2 million, 2014: Free Agent

http://www.nfl.com/player/willwitherspoon/2504980/profile

Players not resigned/cut/retired

RB Michael Turner (cut)

TE Tony Gonzalez (retire)

OC Todd McClure (retire)

SS Shan Shillinger (cut)

CB Chris Owens

CB Brent Grimes

FB Michael Cox

OLB Robert James

OLB Mike Peterson

OT Will Svitek

FB Lousaka Polite

OG Garrett Reynolds

Players resigned

DE Lawrence Sidbury

OT Sam Baker

DT Vance Walker

SS William Moore

2013 Draft

1st Round ILB Manti Te'o, Notre Dame

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 255 | Projected 40 Time: 4.64

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664155/manti-teo

http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/player/513/1025442/index.html

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/teo_manti00.html

2nd Round CB Terry Hawthorne, Illinois

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 190| Projected 40 Time: 4.49

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89612&draftyear=2013&genpos=CB

http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/301/1024169/index.html

http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hawthorne_terry00.html

3rd Round WR Aaron Mellette, Elon

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 218| Projected 40 Time: 4.53

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692413/aaron-mellette

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/480273/aaron-mellette

4th Round WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia

Height: 5-9 | Weight: 176| Projected 40 Time: 4.38

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1664558/tavon-austin

http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/768/1027034/index.html

http://www.wvusports.com/profile.cfm?id=101895

4th Round Comp***OG Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia Tech

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 302| Projected 40 Time: 5.26

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1689471/omoregie-uzzi

http://www.ramblinwreck.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/uzzi_omoregie00.html

5th Round Cameron Marshall, Arizona State University

Height: 5-11 | Weight: 216| Projected 40 Time: 4.40

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89991&draftyear=2013&genpos=rb

http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/player/28/1022962/index.html

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2013-Big-Board/Cameron-Marshall.html

6th Round HB/TE Chris Harper, Kansas State University

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 234| Projected 40 Time: 4.59

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620463/chris-harper

http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/player/327/1017928/index.html

http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/harper_chris00.html

7th Round FS Malcolm Bronson, McNeese State

Height: 511 | Weight: 192| Projected 40 Time: 4.39

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=104255&draftyear=2013&genpos=FS

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/386992/malcolm-bronson

Offensive Depth Chart

Quarterback Matt Ryan, Dominique Davis

Wide Receiver X Julio Jones, Tavon Austin, Kevin Cone

Wide Receiver Z Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Aaron Mellette

Running Back Jacquizz Rodgers, Cameron Marshall, Jason Snelling

Fullback Chris Harper, Bradie Ewing

Tight End Heath Miller, Michael Palmer, Chris Harper

Left Offensive Tackle Lamar Holmes, Sam Baker

Left Offensive Guard Justin Blalock, Omoregie Uzzi

Center Joe Hawley, Peter Konz

Right Offensive Guard Peter Konz, Omoregie Uzzi

Right Offensive Tackle Tyson Clabo, Mike Johnson

Defensive Depth Chart

Left Defensive End Ray Edwards, Jonathan Massaquoi, Cliff Matthews

Left Defensive Tackle Corey Peters, Peria Jerry, Travian Robertson

Right Defensive Tackle Jonathan Babineaux, Vance Walker

Right Defensive End John Abraham, Kroy Biermann, Lawrence Sidbury

Weak-side Linebacker Sean Weatherspoon, Stephen Nicholas

Middle Linebacker Manti Te'o, Akeem Dent

Strong-side Linebacker Stephen Nicholas

Left Cornerback Asante Samuels, Terry Hawthorne

Right Cornerback Dunta Robinson, Dominique Franks

Strong Safety William Moore, Charles Mitchell

Free Safety Thomas DeCoud, Malcolm Bronson

Special Teams Depth Chart

Kicker (FG) K Matt Byrant

Punter Matt Bosher

Kicker (KO) Matt Bosher

Long Snapper Joe Zelenka

Kick Returner Tavon Austin

Punt Returner Tavon Austin

Holder Matt Bosher

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I think we've seen just how much Nolan values ILB's - I just don't see us going that route.

I would not be so quick to say that, LB is the thinnest position we have on defense by far. We have a first year starter who has a great deal of question marks and a 36 yr old backup on his last leg. Not to mention imagine the our defense if we were able to draft Te'o, we would instantly have the best LB corp in the league hands down couple with a formidable dline an secondary. Monday night showed me how creative we can be if we had the right personnel.

Spoon-Te'o-Nic

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The Aaron Mallette pick doesn't make much sense. He's an X not a flanker or slot guy. Tavon Austin just isn't an NFL player, he's to small and his only value would be as a returner, he just doesn't have any more room on his frame and he's just not that good of a receiver either.

Hawthorne is being over valued here IMO and I like the Uzzi and Marshall picks

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The Aaron Mallette pick doesn't make much sense. He's an X not a flanker or slot guy. Tavon Austin just isn't an NFL player, he's to small and his only value would be as a returner, he just doesn't have any more room on his frame and he's just not that good of a receiver either.

Hawthorne is being over valued here IMO and I like the Uzzi and Marshall picks

Mallette pick is a grooming pick for Roddy in the next 2 years as it takes about 2-3 years for a wr to find his way.

Austin pick is just that returns which special teams is and important phase of our team. Devin Hester & Josh Cribbs anyone??

Hawthorne value pick is up for debate....

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Mallette pick is a grooming pick for Roddy in the next 2 years as it takes about 2-3 years for a wr to find his way.

Austin pick is just that returns which special teams is and important phase of our team. Devin Hester & Josh Cribbs anyone??

Hawthorne value pick is up for debate....

Ehh you don't take a returner in the 4th round of this draft, it's a waste of a pick.

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Ehh you don't take a returner in the 4th round of this draft, it's a waste of a pick.

So let me get this straight in the past 5 years the only people we have drafted was Joe Hawley and Lawrence Sidbury and you busting my ball about a return guy (which we need). When did a 4th round pick become a high draft pick. I am just curious which pro bowler would you draft?

When was the such high expectations of a 4th rounder?

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So let me get this straight in the past 5 years the only people we have drafted was Joe Hawley and Lawrence Sidbury and you busting my ball about a return guy (which we need). When did a 4th round pick become a high draft pick. I am just curious which pro bowler would you draft?

When was the such high expectations of a 4th rounder?

I think you could get a solid starter in this year's 4th rounder maybe a fringe pro bowl guy. This is a deep draft, and I just can't validate taking Tavon Austin in the 4th. I could with Stedman Bailey because he's actually a very good WO from a route running and hands perspective and has a bigger frame than Austin and could probably return as well.

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I think you could get a solid starter in this year's 4th rounder maybe a fringe pro bowl guy. This is a deep draft, and I just can't validate taking Tavon Austin in the 4th. I could with Stedman Bailey because he's actually a very good WO from a route running and hands perspective and has a bigger frame than Austin and could probably return as well.

Great let me change my entire draft because you think the best ever 4th round prospect Bailey is a much better option...even thou he will never see the field as a 4th or 5th wr unless it is on special teams and he adds nothing to special teams which was the reason for the pick. It is very funny how many people will debate 4th rounds and beyond as a value pick as if they have a resume of picking pro bowlers in the six round. Sir they all will have flaws which is normally the reason why they go in the 4th round not the 1st. We have a pretty tight receiving core, the pick was never intended to find the next anyone unless it was a return specialist. We never and I mean never use a 4th or 5th wr for anything other than special teams. Weems, our last 4th wr who also happen to be a pro bowler only has 24 career receptions and 205 in his 5 year stint with our team, I wonder how big he was coming out of college 5-9 and 185 same height and only 9 pounds heavier than Austin.

All I know is one player is responsible for 1700+ career special team yards and one only has maybe 100, maybe in "your" mock you can trade up in the first and draft Mr. Bailey as far as me I am happy with Austin in the 4th. Thanks for your comments!

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I think we've seen just how much Nolan values ILB's - I just don't see us going that route.

Valid point Smiler but I wonder does that just highlight the brillance of Nolan. Is it out of neccessity rather than preference that we play without MLB?.

Can you imagine what he could do if we had a MLB like Te'o!!? 2Lb sets, 3 Lb sets, or even 4 LBs....that would be fun to watch!

It is a league of adjustments, not sure if we could go all year without strong MLB play. eventually we will run into a well balanced teams (playoffs) and will need a MLB that can play both run and pass. Also with a long season and it appears LBs are asked alot in this D; not sure Spoon and Nic could keep this up all year.

Not saying you don't have a vaild point but for me, if Te'o is still on the board when we pick, he is on a short list of desirable selections.

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Valid point Smiler but I wonder does that just highlight the brillance of Nolan. Is it out of neccessity rather than preference that we play without MLB?.

Can you imagine what he could do if we had a MLB like Te'o!!? 2Lb sets, 3 Lb sets, or even 4 LBs....that would be fun to watch!

It is a league of adjustments, not sure if we could go all year without strong MLB play. eventually we will run into a well balanced teams (playoffs) and will need a MLB that can play both run and pass. Also with a long season and it appears LBs are asked alot in this D; not sure Spoon and Nic could keep this up all year.

Not saying you don't have a vaild point but for me, if Te'o is still on the board when we pick, he is on a short list of desirable selections.

Exactly what I was thinking, Nolan had GM responsibilities when 49ers drafted Willis and was the DC when Miami signed Dansby so he does have a history of adding ILB.

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This is pretty good except for 2 things. I don't want Miller and I doubt we draft Teo unless he falls later. I like the rest of the picks though. I never heard of the guy from Elon but his measurable are decent. I love the Bailey because he adds another explosive player. Zodiac is just tripping. I love the H-back guy you have. If he can be move guy then he's fine with me. Since I don't like the signing of Miller I would say to put a big TE like Fauria or Toilolo.

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This is pretty good except for 2 things. I don't want Miller and I doubt we draft Teo unless he falls later. I like the rest of the picks though. I never heard of the guy from Elon but his measurable are decent. I love the Bailey because he adds another explosive player. Zodiac is just tripping. I love the H-back guy you have. If he can be move guy then he's fine with me. Since I don't like the signing of Miller I would say to put a big TE like Fauria or Toilolo.

And why don't you like Miller?

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I think you could get a solid starter in this year's 4th rounder maybe a fringe pro bowl guy. This is a deep draft, and I just can't validate taking Tavon Austin in the 4th. I could with Stedman Bailey because he's actually a very good WO from a route running and hands perspective and has a bigger frame than Austin and could probably return as well.

Austin is not worth a 4th? 394 yds and 5 tds in the last two games! Boy stop!!!!

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I don't have a horse in this race but to be fair college production doesn't equal NFL draft grade/success

Nor does size but when you make statements like this "Tavon Austin just isn't an NFL player, he's to small and his only value would be as a returner, he just doesn't have any more room on his frame and he's just not that good of a receiver either." You lose credibility with me.

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Nor does size but when you make statements like this "Tavon Austin just isn't an NFL player, he's to small and his only value would be as a returner, he just doesn't have any more room on his frame and he's just not that good of a receiver either." You lose credibility with me.

He's 5'9 174 and relies completely on his speed and quickness.

That's not an NFL WR

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He's 5'9 174 and relies completely on his speed and quickness.

That's not an NFL WR

Guest what they said about all these players coming out of college.

Steve Smith is 5'9 and 184 yet he is a 5 time pro bowls and 3 time all pro

Wes Welker 5'9 and 186 4 pro bowls 4 all pro

Desean Jackson 5'9 and 169 2 pro bowls and one all pro

Santana Moss 5'9 and 181 5 pro bowls and 5 all pro

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

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Guest what they said about all these players coming out of college.

Steve Smith is 5'9 and 184 yet he is a 5 time pro bowls and 3 time all pro

Wes Welker 5'9 and 186 4 pro bowls 4 all pro

Desean Jackson 5'9 and 169 2 pro bowls and one all pro

Santana Moss 5'9 and 181 5 pro bowls and 5 all pro

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Santana Moss is 5'10 189 LBs

DeSean Jackson is 5'10 175 LBs

Welker is 185 but at least you got his height right. He's also one of the best route runners in the NFL

Steve Smith is 5'9 198 LBs....and stupid strong for his size...

Ironic quote considering you just made up Height and Weight #s to try and further your point.

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To his point does an inch taller or a few pounds make a difference? If so, why? If I were you I'd perhaps focus on the rare traits those players have over Austin if you still think Austin is all speed.

Well he blatantly made up those #s then insulted me.

Also yes I could go on about Austin, he's not that great of a route runner, he's more of a flanker/returner then he really is a WR. He'd be better off coming out of the back field working the underneath stuff and running screens along with returning.

I also don't know if he could hold up in the NFL at this size and it looks like his frame is already maxed out.

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