MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 1) still hate for Matt Ryan?2) What the hecks wrong with Turner?3) Still not digging the Julio Trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Negatorris Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Turner is old that's it. I love the guy and respect what he has contributed over the years, but you can stick a fork in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 never hated ryanIDK WHAT is wrong with turner but he needs to step up or Quizz should be the starterhuh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I won't respond to 1 and 3 cause only dummies ever hated Ryan and didn't dig the trade.As for Turner its the same ole story. It will take a bunch of carries for him to get his big one. This week he didn't get much. We went with a pass heavy attack. Quiz was much better today, but regardless of what people think Turner is more of a threat to break a big one than Quiz IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 I have no clue what's up with Turner. It's almost like he pissed off Koetter! I understand the integration of Quiz. But I thought for sure that Turner would get the call when we had the ball on the 3; and after we had a comfortable lead.I'm kinda wondering why we didn't just trade him and draft a more versatile rb that Koetter likes, if he's going to be used so sparingly.On the flip side I thought we should have moved on from Turner once MM left. Check my old posts:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 You are right, we scored on every posession, what's up with that, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brehus Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) I think KC was going by last years way to beat atlanta by shuting down the run game and make Matt Ryan beat you with his arm I believe the run game will pick back up once teams quit game planning to stop the run Edited September 9, 2012 by Brehus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftfield Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 That was pretty much Turners first match of ther season. KC defense was stout enough on the run but who knows next week he may be a BEAST and all this curiosity as to whether he's still grade A material will disappear.Sub note I am more keen for him to be fresh and dynamic come January when teams maybe tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 I won't respond to 1 and 3 cause only dummies ever hated Ryan and didn't dig the trade.As for Turner its the same ole story. It will take a bunch of carries for him to get his big one. This week he didn't get much. We went with a pass heavy attack. Quiz was much better today, but regardless of what people think Turner is more of a threat to break a big one than Quiz IMO.Clark I do believe that Turner still has big play ability. Prolly more than Quiz. Quiz to me is that whitehead or Kevin Faulk type. A playmaker and versatile, but not a Barry sanders type. I do think that Koetter wants a back that can catch. All his Jax teams had backs that could catch. Taylor, Jones,MJD etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballislyfe Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Loved mattyBeen said turner doesnt fit this offenseAlways thought julio was worth it. We would of wasted the picks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 That was pretty much Turners first match of ther season. KC defense was stout enough on the run but who knows next week he may be a BEAST and all this curiosity as to whether he's still grade A material will disappear.Sub note I am more keen for him to be fresh and dynamic come January when teams maybe tired.It's possible. It just shocked me to see 11 carries for 32 yards. Particularly in short yardage and when we had a lead. IMO I think Turner is a rhythm guy and is gonna have a hard time being effective in a platoon. That said I don't like his lack of hands and think we should have either drafted a versatile rb or signed someone like Bush or the law firm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Clark I do believe that Turner still has big play ability. Prolly more than Quiz. Quiz to me is that whitehead or Kevin Faulk type. A playmaker and versatile, but not a Barry sanders type. I do think that Koetter wants a back that can catch. All his Jax teams had backs that could catch. Taylor, Jones,MJD etc..Clark I do believe that Turner still has big play ability. Prolly more than Quiz. Quiz to me is that whitehead or Kevin Faulk type. A playmaker and versatile, but not a Barry sanders type. I do think that Koetter wants a back that can catch. All his Jax teams had backs that could catch. Taylor, Jones,MJD etc..Yeah for sure. If our game plan is going to look like this every week then Turner is going to be more and more fizzled out of the offense. I'm fine with Quiz playing more because he will rarely lose yardage hiding behind our lineman on running plays. He will be more consistent with the 4-5 yard gains and like you said, the receptions.But I don't think Quiz has game breaking speed and Turner doesn't neccesarily either but if he finds that one hole to get him in the 2nd level then he definitely overmatches Quiz in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Wilson Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Coach Smith has said that his role is going to be reduced on a few occasions. Turner is a guy that needs some carries to put together a good games worth of runs. He's probably not going to get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzummo Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 KC keyed in on the run. Quizz only averaged 3.1ypc. Turner averaged 2.9. Basically the same thing. Our run blocking wasn't there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 1) still hate for Matt Ryan?2) What the hecks wrong with Turner?3) Still not digging the Julio Trade?1) Not hate. Ryan played great and even looked like a running threat a few times. Tempering that is KC missing best pass rusher and CB. Guys were wide open all day.2) Turner just doesn't seem to be getting any holes3) Love the player - hate the cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Yeah for sure. If our game plan is going to look like this every week then Turner is going to be more and more fizzled out of the offense. I'm fine with Quiz playing more because he will rarely lose yardage hiding behind our lineman on running plays. He will be more consistent with the 4-5 yard gains and like you said, the receptions.But I don't think Quiz has game breaking speed and Turner doesn't neccesarily either but if he finds that one hole to get him in the 2nd level then he definitely overmatches Quiz in that area.Yup I agree with you 100%. The nice thing about Julio, tony, HD and Roddy is that not having a breakaway back isn't a killer. Like you said quiz doesn't get negative yardage and is a fine receiver. He provides enough tp make play action work. I could easily see Snelling as he gets healthy getting more touches. But hey maybe Turner will find his groove. He does have that 2nd level explosionI nearly died laughing watching the kicker almost catch Quiz on that kr lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 1) Not hate. Ryan played great and even looked like a running threat a few times. Tempering that is KC missing best pass rusher and CB. Guys were wide open all day.2) Turner just doesn't seem to be getting any holes3) Love the player - hate the costYup. #3 isn't so bad anymore. I think Ryan has definitely improved. Not quite elite (unless he keeps this up) but definitely franchise QBS type play the last couple of years.The turner thing simply perplexes me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIdowu Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 1) Not hate. Ryan played great and even looked like a running threat a few times. Tempering that is KC missing best pass rusher and CB. Guys were wide open all day.2) Turner just doesn't seem to be getting any holes3) Love the player - hate the costpretty much sums it up for me. . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Falcon J.D. Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 He may be slow but he's still a hoss. By the time the fourth has rolled around, he will have even the best line worn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkflight Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) 1) still hate for Matt Ryan?2) What the hecks wrong with Turner?3) Still not digging the Julio Trade?1. Never hated Ryan. Just wanted him to play to his potential. Good start for the season.2. Old and a lot slower. Needs massive holes for big runs.3. Always liked the Julio trade. Edited September 9, 2012 by Darkflight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 He may be slow but he's still a hoss. By the time the fourth has rolled around, he will have even the best line worn down.True. I won't panic until game 4 lolActually Turners not necessary. Just a bonus if he contributes. I like our roster this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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