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" Are You Better Off Now Than Four Years Ago? "


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You have one guy falling off a 100 floor building. He's careening to the earth at 145 mph, and he's 8 floors from going splat.

You have another guy inside the building, walking up the stairs. He's made it to the eight floor. He is gasping and weezing. He's going one step at a time. Occasionally he falls back a step or two or stops. But he's making progress . . . .

Which guy is better off?

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I am better off, and I'm better off because we made difficult decisions during the crisis, and took some risks carefully expanding into new markets. We have built a new facility in CA at a time when construction was cheap, and at the same time, captured an entire segment of the construction economy that we didn't have before.

We're still down to 178 employees from 216, but we're profitable and using that profit to build the business even further.

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Obviously the guy falling off the roof, because the socialists will not corrupt him.

Its pretty clear we are better off than four years ago, but that does not mean we are great or even okay. I loved the Dems speechs that I heard( Biden, Obama, Clinton, Michelle Obama), especially Obama and Clinton. Talking about working with the republicans is exactly what I wanted to hear. Not demonizing them like they have Obama at the RNC. Compromise is exactly what we need in this country. everyone's voice should be heard.

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The recession was always going to have a bottom. The idea that we are better off because we aren't still losing a million jobs a month is kind of silly.

The government can't fix the economic problems. The biggest fiscal policy problem with the current administration is that he is letting the Fed try to fix the economy, and that is making things worse.

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Didnt you just get a job that locked you in for 3 years compared to the previous years when you were working on yearly contracts. And didnt you say losing your previous job was the best thing to happen to you?

Cant have it both ways cappy.

Locks me in for 5 unless something weird happens but that's the way contracting works. While it may have benefits eventually, the fact remains that the dollar isn't worth near as much and is extremely unstable as a currency and at this particular moment in time, I'm certainly not better off and any advances I have made are a result of some extreme sacrificing on my part not as a result of the government. Of course, I'd also add that my health insurance cost tripled too...

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Worse. Salaries cut, health insurance 3 times as much with less coverage, groceries went from 200 a week to 275 buying the same stuff. Gas thru the roof. Property tax doubled. I'll just stop there.

Don't worry though, because food is not included in the governments inflation index, so prices aren't really going up. It's just an illusion. Jokes on us.

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You have one guy falling off a 100 floor building. He's careening to the earth at 145 mph, and he's 8 floors from going splat.

You have another guy inside the building, walking up the stairs. He's made it to the eight floor. He is gasping and weezing. He's going one step at a time. Occasionally he falls back a step or two or stops. But he's making progress . . . .

Which guy is better off?

that is a ridiculous metaphor...

I know you are better than this

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Much better off now and it has little to do with the government outside the student loan program. I decided in 08 to go back to school for my masters degree, was able to start in 2010 and I graduate in December and have work lined up.

I also went to a state school so I guess that's more government involvement.

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I have absolutely no idea what the first post in this thread is about, but to answer the thread title, I am much better off. I don't attribute that to anything, really. I got fired from my job in 2009 because I was threat to my manager's comfy position (he was fired in 2010), took a chance at a small company and it has paid off handsomely.

[knocks on wood]

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I have absolutely no idea what the first post in this thread is about, but to answer the thread title, I am much better off. I don't attribute that to anything, really. I got fired from my job in 2009 because I was threat to my manager's comfy position (he was fired in 2010), took a chance at a small company and it has paid off handsomely.

[knocks on wood]

Congrats man, that's awesome

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Obama didnt fail to stop the correction in the recession. The recession was the correction for the housing bubble. He has succeeded in slowing the recovery. You cant expect to have a robust recovery when you scare the crap out of businesses and stack enormously costly new regulations on the economy. Market expectations are a real factor.

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You cant expect to have a robust recovery when you scare the crap out of businesses and stack enormously costly new regulations on the economy.

Supply side economic theory has not proven to work, so why would we go to extremes to appease companies that refuse to hire even when profits are at all time highs?

We're taken risks and they have been rewarded. We didn't need to be pandered to. Why do you want the government to pander to businesses, when they've proven that they'll just stick their hand out over and over again instead of taking risks?

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I am worse off. Lost a high paying construction job, because my company essentially fell off a cliff in 2009 due to the practical stop in construction. We sold our house and moved into a townhouse. We havent been on vacation since the beginning of the recession. So, I am nearly finished with my bachelors degree and will be applying to pharmacy school soon. We are currently living off of my wife's income and some income from me by way of service work now and then. My wife worked heavy overtime for the first time in her life this summer. The company that I worked for has just picked up this summer around July. I will lose about seven years of full-time income because of this recession. That is why I have chosen a high paying profession. I probably would have pursued something in economics (undergraduate degree) if not for my need to produce an income.

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Supply side economic theory has not proven to work, so why would we go to extremes to appease companies that refuse to hire even when profits are at all time highs?

We're taken risks and they have been rewarded. We didn't need to be pandered to. Why do you want the government to pander to businesses, when they've proven that they'll just stick their hand out over and over again instead of taking risks?

Were did I say pander to business?

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Supply side economic theory has not proven to work, so why would we go to extremes to appease companies that refuse to hire even when profits are at all time highs?

Democrats are the trickle down party. They just want the trickle to come from the spigot of government. How is that working for Solyndra? How is that working for GM bond holders and stock holders?

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