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Reagan had a democratic congress for much of his time as president so had to make compromises to get ish done. See....Clinton and Reagan were both able to get ish done even though the opposing party controlled congress. Something this president can't do when only 1 house is controlled by the opposing party. Because he can't effectively reach across the isle like Reagan or Clinton could. It's called leadership.

As for the defense spending, it pretty much killed the Soviet Union so it was a very good thing.

"The rising debt is the Congress's fault when there's a Republican president but is the president's fault when there is a Republican Congress. But only when it increases...the Democratic House was responsible for the rising debt under Reagan (even though Republicans had the Senate most of the time), but the Republican House has zero responsibility for the rising debt the last couple of years because Democrats have the presidency and the Senate.

Oh yeah, and WHY ARE DEMOCRATS PLAYING THE BLAME GAME ALL THE TIME???"

Geez.

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Reaching across the aisle, like when they wanted to "DEEM" OBamacare into law?

I mean like when they offered to have a dollar in spending cuts for each dollar in tax increases, and then offered to up it to $2 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases and still the little chickenhawks in the congress refused to budge and threatened to shut the government down just to prove a point. I actually find myself feeling sorry for John Boehner. He no doubt stands opposed to much of what Obama and the Dems in general would like to accomplish but I think he would actually try to be flexible and somewhat pragmatic in how he runs the House, but he's got several members of his own party standing right behind him simulatneously offering him their support while also whispering in his ear that they will not hesitate to ruin him if he even tries to meet Obama somewhere in the middle.

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Oh, well the thing you have to remember with that whole "reach across the aisle" thing ...is that the scenario has changed now. Ya see...the Democrat party is no longer just Democrats. Your party has been taken over by Socialists, and Progressives. So when the Republicans ran in 2010, they received a mandate that stated that the Repubicans do not WISH to compromise with Socialism. Does that make sense?

When we elected our guys in 2010, they promised to NOT work with the enemy of Capitalism.

You cannot make compromises with an idealogy that you find fundamentally WRONG. That would be like telling a Jewish person to just try a little piece of bacon.

So, according to the mandate of the republican voters we will have nothing other than intractable (sp) gridlock until they get their way, is that correct? The Republicans have just pulled a unilateral filibuster on the ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT until things can go their way without any compromise at all. It's as if they've decided to hold their breath until they get their way. Hopefully there are enough responsible voters who see this for what it is and will work out a way to give these human roadblocks a new mandate... a mandate to GTFO or start working toward actually doing something positive for the country.

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So, according to the mandate of the republican voters we will have nothing other than intractable (sp) gridlock until they get their way, is that correct? The Republicans have just pulled a unilateral filibuster on the ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT until things can go their way without any compromise at all. It's as if they've decided to hold their breath until they get their way. Hopefully there are enough responsible voters who see this for what it is and will work out a way to give these human roadblocks a new mandate... a mandate to GTFO or start working toward actually doing something positive for the country.

you'd have to believe socialism was better for the country to go along with it.

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Hey....did anyone believe last night when they told you that nobody cut $716 Billion from Medicare?

I thought that was pretty funny when they claimed that it was the Republicans who were gonna destroy Medicare, as they loot and pillage the pockets of Medicare to fund Obamacare. That was a good one!

What they said was that Ryan stood up there and acused the Dems of taking $716 billion from Medicare, pulling off a huge robbery, when in fact that is the very same $716 billion that would have been handled the same way in Ryans own proposed budget a couple of years ago.

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So again, just to clarify; the GOP is choosing the "Do nothing" option until they get a better set of circumstances?

congress has tried to do something there are 44 bills just chilling over in the senate, the democrat controled senate. all those bills have to do with the economy. also ****wad the only budget obama produced was voted down 96 0. just stfu.

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You're talking about empty promises last night?

Yeah...you're right...we HAVE seen that before. I agree with you.

Oh, and good morning!

Good morning to you! Nowhere did I talk about empty promises! But maybe with all the personalities you got going on your confused.

Now that you have slipped up and showed yourself I'm done. I don't engage alts! No respect for someone who has to pretend to be someone else on a football message board!

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No, the post addressed what was called a "mini-mod".

I deduced that it was referring to me, since most accusations here say that I am really Steve.

So logically, you have no reason to cry about it when your accusations are assumed true.

You can't accuse me of being Steve, then whine when I respond to the accusation and say that it's PROOF that I am Steve. You want I should go over this slower for you? Oh...and Good Morning to you!

The post mentioned Steve by name but whatever ...wont talk to you if your Steve, Squeak the Mouse or Uumfoofoo!

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Just looking at the viewership numbers. It looks like for both conventions, there are only about 10 million people watching on the networks (e.g., not the cable news, where most are partisan and unpersuadable).

The media reporting will be more influential than the actual convention itself, so we'll see if there's any kind of bounce. But I'd be shocked if Obama gets more than a 4-point bounce off the convention. The wildcard is the jobs report tomorrow...if it's really good news then he'll get a bigger bump and if it's bad then he'll probably not get anything.

But, all that said, this is a case study in how to run a convention.

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Just looking at the viewership numbers. It looks like for both conventions, there are only about 10 million people watching on the networks (e.g., not the cable news, where most are partisan and unpersuadable).

The media reporting will be more influential than the actual convention itself, so we'll see if there's any kind of bounce. But I'd be shocked if Obama gets more than a 4-point bounce off the convention. The wildcard is the jobs report tomorrow...if it's really good news then he'll get a bigger bump and if it's bad then he'll probably not get anything.

But, all that said, this is a case study in how to run a convention.

I haven't watched a lot. Just Clinton, Biden and now Obama . . . I obviously have a tremendous bias, but it sure seems like the vibe is off the charts different between the two conventions. The Dems really seem to have figured this out this time.

Any independents/conservatives agree?

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I haven't watched a lot. Just Clinton, Biden and now Obama . . . I obviously have a tremendous bias, but it sure seems like the vibe is off the charts different between the two conventions. The Dems really seem to have figured this out this time.

Any independents/conservatives agree?

As an Independent, I agree.

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I haven't watched a lot. Just Clinton, Biden and now Obama . . . I obviously have a tremendous bias, but it sure seems like the vibe is off the charts different between the two conventions. The Dems really seem to have figured this out this time.

Any independents/conservatives agree?

Not an independent or conservative, but my sense is the same. I'm also kind of surprised at how much policy there is in the Democratic speeches.

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