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So, tonight is the last night of the RNC and I haven't heard much talk about the ideas that have been put forth. Mostly I hear attacks on the RNC for a lack of black people. Here is a little known fact: The vast majority of African Americans are Democrats. Why would Democrats be highly represented at the Republican convention? It is peculiar to witness people complain about the lack of substance in politics on the one hand and then watch them drone on and on about the shallowest aspects of the campaign. This obsession with race is destructive to our political discourse.

It is amazing how quickly some will discount a Republican because of the color of their skin. Many on the left are constantly accusing the right of bigotry toward blacks. Notice the difference between the response to Mia Love and Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan merits a serious rebuttal, but Mia Love is just a house n*****. Condaleeza Rice is a serious person, who has served in some of the most weighty positions of government, yet she can be brushed away as "Thomosina". I was hoping to see if anyone had something worth hearing to say about the ideas that the Romney/Ryan campaign is promoting. Oh well, I guess we will have to wait for the DNC to hear someone respond to ideas instead of appearance.

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So, tonight is the last night of the RNC and I haven't heard much talk about the ideas that have been put forth. Mostly I hear attacks on the RNC for a lack of black people. Here is a little known fact: The vast majority of African Americans are Democrats. Why would Democrats be highly represented at the Republican convention? It is peculiar to witness people complain about the lack of substance in politics on the one hand and then watch them drone on and on about the shallowest aspects of the campaign. This obsession with race is destructive to our political discourse.

It is amazing how quickly some will discount a Republican because of the color of their skin. Many on the left are constantly accusing the right of bigotry toward blacks. Notice the difference between the response to Mia Love and Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan merits a serious rebuttal, but Mia Love is just a house n*****. Condaleeza Rice is a serious person, who has served in some of the most weighty positions of government, yet she can be brushed away as "Thomosina". I was hoping to see if anyone had something worth hearing to say about the ideas that the Romney/Ryan campaign is promoting. Oh well, I guess we will have to wait for the DNC to hear someone respond to ideas instead of appearance.

Care to name some of those ideas?

like Ryans budget having the same medicare cuts as the Obama budget he criticizes?

Big Ideas. Now lets see those birth certificates.

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Flip Flop, you and I are cool. We don't agree on politics, but you're always fair and respectful. I don't disagree with you that people on both sides of the aisle are too focused on soundbites and "gotcha" moments, and not on the issues. I posted basically the same sentiment a week or two ago.

But what I see happening on these boards, is Snake being waaaaay too excited to find a black republican to post on here. I guarantee you if Mia Love was white, we'd never have heard about her from him.

Take it for what it's worth, but it's pretty obvious to me.

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The Ryan budget is a very good start and Mitt has laid out a very clear path as well. The disbanding of Obamacare, the loosening over over regulation, the Drill here NOW energy idea's, the downsizing the control of the EPA are all great starts. Just the idea of a balanced budget and 20% spending to GDP(Ryan stated last nite) are very good starts. Mitt will bring most of this into focus, but the disbanding of an entitlement mentality, the shoring up of medicare, the disbanding of the Grandest of all entitlements(obamacare) are huge openings.

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I haven't read, seen or heard any ideas that stood out as differing much from the traditional Republican platform. What I saw sounded like a lot of supply side economics and anti-Democrat rhetoric...similar to what I expect from the DNC in the other direction.

Was there anything you saw that piqued your interest or made your ears perk up?

I'm genuinely curious.

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The Ryan budget is a very good start and Mitt has laid out a very clear path as well. The disbanding of Obamacare, the loosening over over regulation, the Drill here NOW energy idea's, the downsizing the control of the EPA are all great starts. Just the idea of a balanced budget and 20% spending to GDP(Ryan stated last nite) are very good starts. Mitt will bring most of this into focus, but the disbanding of an entitlement mentality, the shoring up of medicare, the disbanding of the Grandest of all entitlements(obamacare) are huge openings.

So you are okay with Romneycare but not Obamacare.

Good to know.

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So you are okay with Romneycare but not Obamacare.

Good to know.

Romneycare did not raise tax's, is a state issue, voted on by the people of the state, offers a great deal of Difference then Obamacare and Mitts said, Its NOT for the country. Obamacare is vastly different and I've already pointed out ALL those differences. Look it up although you could care less.

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Flip Flop, you and I are cool. We don't agree on politics, but you're always fair and respectful. I don't disagree with you that people on both sides of the aisle are too focused on soundbites and "gotcha" moments, and not on the issues. I posted basically the same sentiment a week or two ago.

But what I see happening on these boards, is Snake being waaaaay too excited to find a black republican to post on here. I guarantee you if Mia Love was white, we'd never have heard about her from him.

Take it for what it's worth, but it's pretty obvious to me.

I love a heated debate as much as the next guy. I appreciate those of you on the other side who can discuss ideas. At this point, I am bored with the shouting masses. I will take note of the response to the DNC to see the difference in criticisms.

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Romneycare did not raise tax's, is a state issue, voted on by the people of the state, offers a great deal of Difference then Obamacare and Mitts said, Its NOT for the country. Obamacare is vastly different and I've already pointed out ALL those differences. Look it up although you could care less.

Yes I could care less, which means I care.

If you wish to believe socialism and non socialism only differ by voting then splain this, Lucy. Obama ran his presidential platform on healthcare. People voted him in. So it WAS voted on. But that vote doesn't count because you don't like it, right?

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I haven't read, seen or heard any ideas that stood out as differing much from the traditional Republican platform. What I saw sounded like a lot of supply side economics and anti-Democrat rhetoric...similar to what I expect from the DNC in the other direction.

Was there anything you saw that piqued your interest or made your ears perk up?

I'm genuinely curious.

I dont think that when drill down to the principles there is anything new. However, Romney/Ryan is not just another Republican presidential ticket any more than Obama/Biden is just another Democrat ticket. I thought that Ryan gave an unusually ideological speech for this campaign. I thought that his point about right now was powerful. The point that we are living in this economy, not the Bush economy, not some economy that will come to fruition at some point in the future, but this economy.

I found Condi's point that the great accomplishments of our past seem like eventualities in retrospect were not forgone conclusions at the time of their accomplishment. Many people have settled into the position that this government cannot do much to improve this economy. I agree with her that something can be done to improve this economy and tied together with Paul Ryan's speech I also agree that spending more money that we don't have is not the answer.

I agree that the Republican Party has failed to live up to being the party of small government, but no more than the Democratic Party has failed to live up to being the party that helps the poor.

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