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Also Steve, I see selective reasoning a lot where this whole thing is concerned and it smacks of, "I just don't want to acknowledge a Black guy in the White House."

Yep. I pulled it, but its the elephant in the room that gets shut down with a stammering "Shut up." in the form of "He's pulling the race card."

And I addressed that also.

He kept saying " look at the stage" and I said " look at the white house"

Its like he refuses to accept reality because black people terrify him.

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One side is offering big government socialistic solutions and the other side is offering free market solutions. Of course the free market guys are going to vote against the big government socialistic solutions as they should.

and you want the government to censor TV and internet so you don't have to watch your kids. Poor thing.

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One side is offering big government socialistic solutions and the other side is offering free market solutions. Of course the free market guys are going to vote against the big government socialistic solutions as they should.

In the eight years Bush was in office I saw plenty of "Big Government" and in fact bigger than ever and a whole mess of spending. You mean to tell me that I should go by that? I don't have selective memory Steve. I remember quite well how we got into this mess and I stay on top of what has ACTUALLY caused the standstill. "One term president." Remember that Steve? At the cost of the American people, the Repubs blocked everything that could have helped this country get better. You now expect me to forget that and give the Repubs a chance? No chance in he** of that happening. Paul Ryan was one of them who helped make it happen and Americans don't seem to care so long as a Black President is gone after the first four.

Still pulling it man. Its clearer than daylight.

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I thought you were better than this. Guess not.

No Steve. I'm not better than calling a duck a duck because when I smell fish there usually is. So no, I'm not better than that. I like truth and reality, not pie in the sky rhetoric that completely contradicts the actions of the past 4 years...and people eating it like soup. The only reasons that I can think is partisanship or not wanting someone with a bit more melanin in Oval Office.

Youch, did I pull it again?

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No Steve. I'm not better than calling a duck a duck because when I smell fish there usually is. So no, I'm not better than that. I like truth and reality, not pie in the sky rhetoric that completely contradicts the actions of the past 4 years...and people eating it like soup. The only reasons that I can think is partisanship or not wanting someone with a bit more melanin in Oval Office.

Youch, did I pull it again?

Holy crap dude, Steve is out!!

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Yep, I thought Bush's 2nd term sucked and there was way too much spending going on. I agree that the size of government grew way too much during that time frame. Bush ran as a supposed small government conservative in 2000 but particularly in his 2nd term didn't act like one at all.

The Repubs blocked everything to help this country get better? No they blocked expanding the size and role of government even further for a country that is already way upside down. Put up free market solutions and Repubs should vote for it. If they don't I would openly criticize them.

Okay, no. Bush started sucking it up in the first term, but the blindness started out of 9/11. That just gave him free reign. So if the Repubs lied the last time, why should I believe them now? Why are so many flocking behind this new fairy tale? Must have something to do with the Presidents gait. I guess he walks too much like a Black guy, because all of those "big government" bills that were being passed would have helped the economy and now the guys who are blocking it want to do a reverse Robin Hood.

Man, KoG is pulling that card left and right without shame. A good Christian and minister who is careful not to tell a lie on purpose? Man, this guy must be either hacked or worse...he's been brainwashed.

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It has nothing to do with melanin. It has to do with a socialist big government A-hole in the white house.

As for melanin. I'd vote for someone like Alan Keyes in a heartbeat over Romney.

So this socialist butthole doesn't want to own property when he finally does leave the White House? Oh I see, he wants the gov to tell HIM how much HE can make. Cause you know the White House will never be under a dictator. This teh socializm boeyman is bogus.

Nah, its plain old partisanship with a side of "No Blacks Allowed" going on in this country and the people are suffering for it.

I just slapped another card down. Kinda like when I use to play spades. Was that too another card or not?

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No Steve. I'm not better than calling a duck a duck because when I smell fish there usually is. So no, I'm not better than that. I like truth and reality, not pie in the sky rhetoric that completely contradicts the actions of the past 4 years...and people eating it like soup. The only reasons that I can think is partisanship or not wanting someone with a bit more melanin in Oval Office.

Youch, did I pull it again?

I think it's more partisanship. There are absolutely racist elements among Republicans, particularly at the grass roots level. No doubt about it. The Democrats have also had their fair share, usually directed the other way. Just like there are homophobes in the Republican party, and people who hate Christians in the Democrat party, etc.

But at the end of the day, Democrats were fine voting for Byrd, and Republicans were fine voting for Watts and Keyes, etc. So I chalk it up more to party identification than anything else. That's more complex than it might otherwise be too, though -- a lot of Southerners became Republicans when they threw out the Mississippi delegation in 1964, and we all know what that was about. So I suppose if your history is "I'm a Republican because they threw out the southern delegation just because we stopped black people from voting," the two are probably intertwined to the point of being inseparable. But I don't think most Republicans today are in that camp.

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It's the job of voters to hold politicians accountable. Are you holding Democrats accountable? Democrats have had 2/3rd or 3/3rds of power since 2007. They had the senate and the house in 2007-2008. They had the presidency, the senate, and the house in 2009-2010. They have the presidency and the senate in 2011-2012. Are you holding them accountable for the mess they made?

I'll remind you that Robin Hood was a thief. That's all socialism is. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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Looks like you've bought the LIE that anybody against Obama must be a racist. Surprised you would be that gullible and your thinking is exactly the way they want you to think. Perhaps you should consider that some people support a free market like me and some people support big government socialism like Obama.

Yeah, I'm misguided enough to have moved from the Democrat party to Independent and still choose another conservative party.

To JDaveG as well. This isn't about the actual party as much as the folks who support this nonsense that Romney and Ryan are spewing in favor of anything. There is no socialism in our highest office, that was nonsense that you bought. Its liberalism and I'm not sure if it would have worked or not.

What I am certain of is this. You may not be racist Steve. I have sincere doubts on that. You and Deisel REALLY believe in what you say, but the folks that are talking down here in sunny Augusta are rats. I go by what I see, not here and only half of that is taken in, and even with that half I am convinced this has more to do with a guy who looks like someone who would only wear a suit to serve napkins at dinner.

Theres that pesky card again. Would someone blow the horn?

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I think it's more partisanship. There are absolutely racist elements among Republicans, particularly at the grass roots level. No doubt about it. The Democrats have also had their fair share, usually directed the other way. Just like there are homophobes in the Republican party, and people who hate Christians in the Democrat party, etc.

But at the end of the day, Democrats were fine voting for Byrd, and Republicans were fine voting for Watts and Keyes, etc. So I chalk it up more to party identification than anything else. That's more complex than it might otherwise be too, though -- a lot of Southerners became Republicans when they threw out the Mississippi delegation in 1964, and we all know what that was about. So I suppose if your history is "I'm a Republican because they threw out the southern delegation just because we stopped black people from voting," the two are probably intertwined to the point of being inseparable. But I don't think most Republicans today are in that camp.

I agree.
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I think it's more partisanship. There are absolutely racist elements among Republicans, particularly at the grass roots level. No doubt about it. The Democrats have also had their fair share, usually directed the other way. Just like there are homophobes in the Republican party, and people who hate Christians in the Democrat party, etc.

But at the end of the day, Democrats were fine voting for Byrd, and Republicans were fine voting for Watts and Keyes, etc. So I chalk it up more to party identification than anything else. That's more complex than it might otherwise be too, though -- a lot of Southerners became Republicans when they threw out the Mississippi delegation in 1964, and we all know what that was about. So I suppose if your history is "I'm a Republican because they threw out the southern delegation just because we stopped black people from voting," the two are probably intertwined to the point of being inseparable. But I don't think most Republicans today are in that camp.

well, I used to be a republican. Pretty much dyed in the wool. Then came Bush and I kinda wanted to separate myself from that, both politically and personally. When I posted here a long while Back I was a GOPer still, butit was fading because of Bush and his cronies.

Then came Obama and i saw how it really shook their tree and what was falling out of that tree.

This guys policies are absolutely no different than most any other politician, more conservative than Bush, But it was something about him that drove repubs mad,. It was far beyond politics and still is.

If you can point to something other than race, I will listen. But until people start asking to see every candidates birth certificate it's gonna be a tough sale.

Obama was the final straw with me being connected in any way with the republican party or its snot nosed kid brother, the Tea party, who had no issues with GW Bush' taxes already.

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Right, because a president can completely transform a country overnight. He's been transforming it all right the last 3-4 years. This country has been moving further and further towards socialism and people like you have been cheering it on every step of the way.

Losing respect for you with every post.

I have God's repect so I never thought to desire man's. I desire only to speak the truth, fair or not. Once again Steve, I'm not a dem or a lib. Maybe fiscal lib, but then again...even there I a mod.

So here is the deal. Period. Show me how this regime is socialist by using a reputable link and I'll spare you the rest of this beat down that I have in my back pocket. I'm sure I have a flush of cards back there. Romney isn't the answer. Its time for a third party pres.

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Hmmm....smelling more and more like corporate greed, passing the buck, and stinking old not liking dark meat.

When do those cards stop dropping?

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To JDaveG as well. This isn't about the actual party as much as the folks who support this nonsense that Romney and Ryan are spewing in favor of anything. There is no socialism in our highest office, that was nonsense that you bought. Its liberalism and I'm not sure if it would have worked or not.

That may be right. I don't know enough to say one way or another.

What I notice is that people who are die-hard Democrats will defend Democrats no matter what they do and excoriate Republicans whether they are right are wrong. And die-hard Republicans will defend Republicans no matter what they do and excoriate Democrats whether they are right or wrong. It's more of a "my team versus your team" mentality than any real discussion of issues or policy positions. It can be the exact same thing, and who is right or wrong is as simple as what party is involved.

I have friends who are both. The entire world is colored by what political party you belong to. So if Republicans nominate a guy who favors "socialized medicine" even though it's not "socialized" at all, and who ran "to the left of Ted Kennedy on social issues," well, we have to vote for this guy, because all I know is we can't take 4 more years of a Democrat in office because the country won't survive. Etc.

I remember after the 2000 election, a guy I knew who is a hardcore Democrat said "how can democracy survive?" Talking about the electoral vote versus the popular vote. As if this was some undermining of the American electoral system, when in fact it worked exactly as it was supposed to work. This was before the Supreme Court ruled on the recount, too, so it was solely based on the electoral vote versus the popular vote.

All of which is to say, when it comes to politics, people are basically ridiculous. All of us are. The more partisan, the worse it gets.

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Well first it takes an open mind. Then look up socialists' ideology. Look at what the Democratic Socialists stand for and compare it nearly every word that comes out of Obama's mouth. It's almost a 100% match. And it's not surprising that the Democratic Socialists were working with Obama a lot back in Chicago.

As for your often played and misused race card. It's a shame that you are gullible enough to believe that lie that anti-Obama sentiment has anything to do with race. It's about ideology. Most anti-Obama people would be more than happy to have someone like Alan Keyes or JC Watts in the white house, including myself. Heck I'd rather have those guys in the WH than Romney.

Yet most anti Obama people haven't voted for those guys to get anywhere near a GOP nomination while the "libs" actually put a black guy in the whitehouse and not on a stage in Florida licking boots.

Talk is easy chump, so spare us.

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Yet most anti Obama people haven't voted for those guys to get anywhere near a GOP nomination while the "libs" actually put a black guy in the whitehouse and not on a stage in Florida licking boots.

Talk is easy chump, so spare us.

The same is true of Democrats before 2008.

How much of the vote did Jesse Jackson get?

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Well first it takes an open mind. Then look up socialists' ideology. Look at what the Democratic Socialists stand for and compare it nearly every word that comes out of Obama's mouth. It's almost a 100% match. And it's not surprising that the Democratic Socialists were working with Obama a lot back in Chicago.

As for your often played and misused race card. It's a shame that you are gullible enough to believe that lie that anti-Obama sentiment has anything to do with race. It's about ideology. Most anti-Obama people would be more than happy to have someone like Alan Keyes or JC Watts in the white house, including myself. Heck I'd rather have those guys in the WH than Romney.

Its a shame that you have no open mind. You think because you are on the level that others like you are. Nope. Nope. I have no shame in saying what I feel and what I see. Period. I will continue to say what I feel and what I think. Not be bullied into believing something because it has been repearted over and over again.

Also, I'm not a Democrat, so you have it twisted bad here bro. I know what I see and I don't watch MSNBC, CNN, FOX, or any like that. So, that's out.

I have done exactly what you said and know what socialism is. He is not it. That doesn't take an open mind. That takes a double mind. I don't have that problem.

I can see where his ancestry could make a few want to check his birth certificate and think maybe he's a Muslim Sharia Socialist though....man, the cards are just dropping.

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Look at what has actually happened with regard to corporate profits and please speak to the disconnect between what has actually happened, and what you are suggesting has happened.

Until you can do that, it's going to be difficult for anyone to take you seriously...as though that ship didn't already sail 4 years ago by your own doing.

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