razrtalon Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Joe Vitt says he's jot worried. Drew says he's not worried. Chase Daniel is taking first team snaps under center. Will brees get everything he wants/demands or is new Orleans willing to move on without him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 i doubt it anyones really considered that. sure fun to think about though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razrtalon Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 i doubt it anyones really considered that. sure fun to think about thoughPlenty of other teams that would want him. This deal shoudve been done a very long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 there's only one place brees wants to be, but hes going to hold out for the best deal. he knows there's no way the saints will move on with out him. saints know this too. the two sides will fold a little, and he will be signed before August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe horn Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/05/gap-between-saints-brees-smaller-than-reported/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. diehard Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Both sides are talking again. Neither wanted to start making concessions early apparently. Condon represents most of the starting QBs and, likely, has an eye toward the other's contracts with every one he negotiates. Loomis is being cautious as a misstep could hamstring the team before Drew retires and Drew wouldn't want that either.As long as Drew gets his deal, I don't care if it's on the last day. Drew doesn't need minicamps and this is a veteran team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb 3.0 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Did anyone REALLY believe that Brees (at the very height of his career) holdout this season? If so, you were merely fooling yourself and it shows what a gutless homer you are. Afraid to play your opponent at full strength? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Did anyone REALLY believe that Brees (at the very height of his career) holdout this season? If so, you were merely fooling yourself and it shows what a gutless homer you are. Afraid to play your opponent at full strength?And you became a mind reader when?I expect Brees to be in camp, but, if there was a player who would sit out a year, it's Brees. He got screwed the last time the tag was applied to him, he's made 60 million already, he's won a super bowl, Saints fans would blame the team rather than Brees....All the people saying that " of course Brees signs" are the same ones that were saying "they'll get him signed before they have to use the franchise tag".They're probably just waiting to see what happens with Vilma to see what money they have to play with before they sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razrtalon Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Did anyone REALLY believe that Brees (at the very height of his career) holdout this season? If so, you were merely fooling yourself and it shows what a gutless homer you are. Afraid to play your opponent at full strength?I want the saints to have all their weapons...Especially brees. So if we beat them there's no excuses............Not gonna happen this year. With the bounty scandal, some saints fans will say since Goodall had it out for just their team and no one else....that without Vilma or Payton yada yada yada...excuses. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen. I can't control what happens with breesies contract. He has stated himself that if they don't get the deal done by July 16 he won't play. I think I heard that on NFL network. Interesting to think if there's a plan b is all or will drew get anything he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) Brees deal will get done. It takes the fans a while to raise 4 million in bonus money Honestly... The effect of Brees deal will impact other teams, so let them take as long as they want hashing out the details. Because every QB this guy represents is gonna want a brees like contract when their current deal expires. So they need to make sure its right. Edited June 6, 2012 by danight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Matt Ryan fans better hope Loomis does the right deal with Brees, because Condon represents both QB's and you can bet it will be a platform for the Ryan contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 They'll get a deal done sooner rather than later. Saints are good, I don't think they're nearly as good without Brees though. Saints know it, Brees knows it. A deal will get done, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 They'll get a deal done sooner rather than later.Saints are good, I don't think they're nearly as good without Brees though. Saints know it, Brees knows it. A deal will get done,Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I agree with both of you. The deal will get done, but i hope Loomis gets a fair deal for the falcons sake. The Brees deal is certainly gonna drive Ryans price up unless we have a losing season to drag it bad down.I do think Brees is worth his 23 mill for all he has done for the Saints. But the Saints should not mortgage the future in that 1 deal. The is how the rookie QB price got so high in the first place. 1 year 1 signs a breaking high dollar deal, then the next years the next QB wants even more money than that. They made it almost to Tom brady money having never took 1 NFL snap.The Brees deal risk sending a team with a franchise QB price through the roof since his agent controls most of the better QB`s in the NFL`s contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Matt Ryan fans better hope Loomis does the right deal with Brees, because Condon represents both QB's and you can bet it will be a platform for the Ryan contract.Condon isn't arrogant enough to ask for Brees and Manning money for Ryan, Dimitroff would laugh at him and hang up the phone.I'd expect Matt to get close to something like 70-80 Mil overall over 6-7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) I think Ryan and his agent will ask and expect around $18M a year. His rookie contract has had him averaging around $12M a year. Edited June 6, 2012 by pox 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I think Ryan and his agent will ask and expect around $18M a year. His rookie contract has had him averaging around $12M a year.Depends on the franchise tag. It would have to go up alot to pull that for a qb who hasnt won a playoffs game. 18 mill is above todays franchise tag. If the Saints argue paying Brees above the tag, i can see the falcons throwing a fit about paying Ryan over the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razrtalon Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Matty definitely won't get brees money. Brees means so much to the saints and his agent knows it. This deal has some different factors but **** this condon must be making some serious Cheddar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I have been saying it for weeks now....Brees will be under center for TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 WFW hopes and prays Breesus signs soon with the saints or the swampers would just have one endless excuse after another why they would lose to the Falcons!like we've needed them for the last 6 years! hahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAINTSfan Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-brees-saints-close-multiyear-170027995--nfl.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CQ_m89PjWoAswNNbK5get' em Loomis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRay Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 When Brees signs, what's left to talk about in Rivals?BountygateRyan vs. FreemanRyan vs. RomoFalcons suckSaints are gonna nosedive without PaytonCam is gonna tank in his 2nd yearBucs suckColston is better than RoddyJJ is more open than a new Waffle HouseDallas fans tick off Falcon fansThe Eagles aren't going anywhere once againFalcons have 12-14 Elite playersGraham vs. Gonzo2 Points in the Playoffs Payton has won 280 in a row against the FalconsFreeman will throw for 4,800 yards and 28 TD's in 2012Saints in Super Bowl at home in 2013Cheffy works at Denny'sVilma will play in 2012Schemes aren't realShread is a sorry drummerCelery Cap discussion Saints will rule the NFCS until 2015JB will suddenly agree with WFWTATF fans all want LadyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bubba Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 When Brees signs, what's left to talk about in Rivals?BountygateRyan vs. FreemanRyan vs. RomoFalcons suckSaints are gonna nosedive without PaytonCam is gonna tank in his 2nd yearBucs suckColston is better than RoddyJJ is more open than a new Waffle HouseDallas fans tick off Falcon fansThe Eagles aren't going anywhere once againFalcons have 12-14 Elite playersGraham vs. Gonzo2 Points in the Playoffs Payton has won 280 in a row against the FalconsFreeman will throw for 4,800 yards and 28 TD's in 2012Saints in Super Bowl at home in 2013Cheffy works at Denny'sVilma will play in 2012Schemes aren't realShread is a sorry drummerCelery Cap discussion Saints will rule the NFCS until 2015JB will suddenly agree with WFWTATF fans all want LadyCYou forgot the most important topic."Cam has strawberry scented farts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD: Objective Elite Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 You forgot the most important topic."Cam has strawberry scented farts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 if they try and move on without brees, well the saints will be on the clock, he is really all they have, without Brees , Vilma and Payton Saints may not win 1 game all yr..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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